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Is anyone running a manual rack?

Hey guys. I'm thinking about running a flamming river manual rack in a 91 gt. I'm just going to run the car in road race and autox events. I'm just wondering if anyone has any experiences to share? or if steering is too hard. thanks


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I have ran a manual rack and it was a huge PITA. Search this forum and you will find lots of different opinions.


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I don't think there is any way in hell you could autocross a Mustang without P/S. At least not fast.

Or, at least I couldn't. I like fast steering.

Track use is probably a whole different world...I could see where that would work OK.

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I have one in my 92 and I love it I can feel everything my front tires are doing.
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+1 for Manual Rack. I have Flaming Rivers Quick Ratio which = 2.25 turns lock to lock. or just over a tad over 1 turn from center. I street drive mostly and have not had significant track time but I'm 100% happy I went QR Manual. And I do agree, I feel more feedback of the road with manual rack than I did with Powersteering rack.
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I have one in my 92 and I love it I can feel everything my front tires are doing.
x2 with 255's at that. Parking garages can be a pain but it's almost never an issue
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x2 with 255's at that. Parking garages can be a pain but it's almost never an issue
x3 and i'm running 265's. at speeds less then 3mph its a b*tch but once its rolling u cant even tell the p/s is gone, plus it cleans up the engine bay a ton.

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thanks for the info guys! I'm going to try and get my hands on one asap. Is there a big difference between the normal and quick ratio's?

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This is the Road Race and Autocross forum and looking at some of the sigs on these posts I have to questions the context of some of the recommendations.
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You will never be able to AutoX a Mustang with a manual rack. You'll make it three corners, then plow massive cones. It will work ok on a road course until the first time you get the car really sideways and have to countersteer fast, then you will probably spin.


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Having had the same car with struts and then converting to SLA, the feel thing is bogus too, but it didn't seem worth the effort to argue.

Besides, what do I know about autocrossing?

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thanks for the advise everyone. I originally thought it wouldn't be a good idea, But i remembered porshe making a lot of cars that didn't have power steering. I have seen people autox old 944's but the steering setup (among other things) must be a lot better. I may or may not try it.

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thanks for the advise everyone. I originally thought it wouldn't be a good idea, But i remembered porshe making a lot of cars that didn't have power steering. I have seen people autox old 944's but the steering setup (among other things) must be a lot better. I may or may not try it.
A Porsche 911 or 914 probably has 900# total weight on the front of the car.

I'm not as familiar with 944, but I'd be surprised if they were too much worse.

A 3000# Mustang, unless heavily modified, is going to have close to 60% of its weight on the nose, so double the 911. Even a Fox mustang as hacked up as my old one, with only 51% on the nose had ~1500#.

So, I don't think that is a very good comparison....

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I have driven a few factory five cars with manual steering, and they are much lighter in the nose than a mustang. Wouldn't recommend it, if not only for the reason of it being harder to control avoiding a spin, as Jack Hidley mentioned. If you are just driving around town and drag racing, go for it. For cars that are tracked, don't, imho.

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Thanks for the info guys. I think I will be retaining my power steering.

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