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Is pph pounds per hour?
Looks like this kit is set up to be real rich a 200 shot is 45n and 30f times two if course
On a calculator for a 100 shot it comes out to be 47n 28f
yes PPH= pound per hour

big difference in the jet spreads between those 2 with a 15 and 19 spread. those 28's are prob closer to where you need to be.


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I tried 900-950 but it seemed a bit fat once I turned up the pressure it felt like a different car
900-950 is the best bottle pressure to tune to, a full bottle will maintain pressure longer. be careful using nitrous calculators since they arent typically specific to your injection medium (many different plates, nozzles, ect), just use them for a baseline and tune from there. i like robie the robot.
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Awesome info guys! I really appreciate it!

The plan for now is to go 200 (45n-30f)with a fresh set of plugs at 950 psi read them and see if theyre rich or not I'll post a pic of them I may go with a non projected tipped plug if I can find one for Winsdor sr heads on such short notice

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Awesome info guys! I really appreciate it!

The plan for now is to go 200 (45n-30f)with a fresh set of plugs at 950 psi read them and see if theyre rich or not I'll post a pic of them I may go with a non projected tipped plug if I can find one for Winsdor sr heads on such short notice
i checked the plug sticky, thought there was a chart for them, but i didnt see it. i NEVER use a projected tip plug with any poweradder, always recessed tip.

EDIT: i found this...
World Products Windsor Sr. 5.0 Ford Cast Iron Cylinder Heads - Free Shipping on All Orders @ JEGS
which led me to think i would try these, since i prefer NGK's...
NGK Racing 2817 - Racing Spark Plug | O'Reilly Auto Parts

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i checked the plug sticky, thought there was a chart for them, but i didnt see it. i NEVER use a projected tip plug with any poweradder, always recessed tip.

EDIT: i found this...
World Products Windsor Sr. 5.0 Ford Cast Iron Cylinder Heads - Free Shipping on All Orders @ JEGS
which led me to think i would try these, since i prefer NGK's...
NGK Racing 2817 - Racing Spark Plug | O'Reilly Auto Parts
Haha awesome man! I got to thinking and and couldn't find a solid match the closest I came up with is the ngk ur6 and autolit a 23
The plugs I have now are longer 3923 I believe I need a reach of .460. What do you think I should go with? For that 200 ? Thanks again guys y'all have been tons of help!!!

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yes, according to the product info on jegs site you need the .460" reach, the NGK's i linked are 11.2mm reach which converts to .440"... they would work fine.

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Alright thanks know how many steps cooler they are? Gap at 40? I'm at 35 now with no issues

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the plug i linked has a heat range of 7 which is kind of middle of the road. this tech article explains heat ranges better than i can...
http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/pdf/DYK_HeatRanges.pdf

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I'm gonna try the autolite 23s got my jets in today so I'll do it all this weekend

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Tried it with the 45-30 pills starts breaking up immediately tried it with the Progressor on and off using my same plugs )3923s they only had 6 autolite 23 lol
Before changing anything I'm gonna go in and double check I have the pills correct


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Nitrous breaking up - YouTube
Nitrous breaking up - YouTube
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Edit also I tried it out of 3rd gear it hit pretty smooth anything out if second I would get the popping

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Went on a wild goose chase for plugs ended up gaping the plugs I have now to 30 cars feels great on spray

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Went on a wild goose chase for plugs ended up gaping the plugs I have now to 30 cars feels great on spray
i dont know if i understand this, but ti sounds like its doing good and you cant type for the excitement.

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I was going to say. 40 is a bit on the high side for the plugs it seems. Glad you got it figured out.

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Lol sorry guys I couldn't find any new plugs locally so I decided to re gap the ones on the car down to 30 it ran beautifully. I straight murdered a 02 ss lol the poor guy didn't see it coming. I got a good friend gonna help me out with a 6al just for reassurance

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I know this is a old thread I have this same plate kit with .42 nitrous and .30 fuel. Could you guys tell me what size shot this is? I just got bottle filled today I think it close to a 150 shot.
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Yeah, about a 150 shot. Remember to remove timing at 2 per 50 hp. So for 150 it would be -6 degrees.

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Ok thanks, Im pulling timing with my msd 6. Should I have my base timing set to 10 or slightly higher and have the box pull 6 deg?
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Ok thanks, Im pulling timing with my msd 6. Should I have my base timing set to 10 or slightly higher and have the box pull 6 deg?
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you would want you base timing to be where the motor likes timing n/a... pull 6 from there and start tuning.

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