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Best Fenderwll Induction Kit

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#1 ·
Hell All...
I'm looking for opinions of the best aftermarket Cold Air Induction System (Inside Fenderwell best?). I'm lookin at BBK & MAC. I have a 99 Cobra and am looking to get her breathing a little easier. Thank You!
 
#27 · (Edited)
John just put my stock pipe back in the mail to me. I sent him the stock pipe off of my cobra so he could get the specs, angles, size of fittings, etc all figured out. He has found some 3.5" pipe that should work even with the Strut tower brace. It will probably be a few weeks before I have the "prototype" to see if it improves power and if it will fit under the Strut brace. If this size tube doesn't fit under the brace, I think he is just going to use the 4" pipe like what is used for the 99/01 cobras. Hopefully the pipe fits and it is big enough to feed our hungry cobras, but only a little testing will tell. But I think John will have a finalized pipe ready to ship for the 96-98 cobras in about 3-4 weeks. I figure there is snow on the ground right now anyways, so no point in having all these go-fast goodies and no way of testing them out.

I have a "slobra" unfortunately. My corrected dyno numbers were 265rwhp/269rwtq with an Offroad H-pipe and K&N. That isn't too bad, but I was expecting a few more HP and TQ to show up. I am shooting for 300rwhp and even more torque by this summer. I have BBK LT's and o/r h-pipe on the way and I will be adding the Densecharger PowerPipe to my combo as well. I also have U/D pulleys, so hopefully those mods will be enough to bump me up over the 300 mark.

As far as numbers you will need to email John @ Densecharger because he has the exact numbers from customers that have dyno'd before and after with the pipe(s).

Droptop55--- You will probably lose a couple HP/TQ compared to the stock inlet tubing. And if you compare it to the DC setup, then you are losing about 7rwhp/7rwtq. Sorry, but I would rather pay $170 for 5-8rwhp as opposed to $230+ for something that will put me equal to or worse than stock numbers. But to each their own. I just don't think that a metal induction setup and "Cold Air Induction" should go in the same sentence.

Rojizostang--- The ACT sensor may be "upstream" from the hottest part of the inlet track, but if you are using a METAL "Cold Air" kit :rolleyes: then the WHOLE metal tubing will get heated up via conduction from other metal parts it attaches to. The ACT is placed right behind the MAF. Thus, that means that the WHOLE pipe between the MAF/TB will be heated because it is right over the valve cover/exhaust manifold. The whole pipe will get HOT, not just the bottom of the pipe. True, certain spots might be warmer than others, but it would be hard to figure out the HOT spots without some kind of infra-red temp sensor gun.
And I realize that the metal pipes are "separated" by rubber couplings, but you must realize that metal gets hotter than plastic when exposed to the same ambient temps.

I will ask John next time I talk to him why he doesn't offer a "Chrome" painted pipe for those that must have the "chrome" look in their engine compartment. So far, the only reasoning behind anyone buying other systems is because of the "chrome" look of the MAC/BBK pipes. I just don't know if there is a chrome paint that will handle the engine compartment temps or not. I will check with John though and let you know what he says.
 
#28 ·
Would someone please direct me to the "Before vs After Dyno Results of the Densecharger System for a 4.6 liter SOHC or DOHC Ford" with NO OTHER MODS thrown into the testing to confuse the issue?
 
#29 ·
WALL96COBRA said:
Too bad densecharger doesn't make a tb to maf tube for the 96-98 cobras.
i asked John about the same thing for my 5.0. said his testing showed the factory tb to maf was just fine peformance wise and he didn't wanna rip us off.
 
#30 ·
I belive Bob Cosby has switched over to a Densecharger just as I have. The WMS was OK but the Densecharger is 4" ID all the way from the filter to the TB.
 
#31 ·
I have the BBK and have had zero problems with Idle or anything else. The fit, finish, and quality are excellent.

Yeah, it may give you a couple less horsepower than the Densecharger, or maybe not, (I have yet to see a comparison) but the looks under the hood can't even be compared.

The BBK looks awesome!

So, do you want a couple more horsepower or do you want people oooing and awwing when you raise your hood?
 
#32 ·
Metal will get heat soaked. If all you want is "Show" and NO "go" then go buy a rice burner and slap on a body kit and a noisy muffler. :barf:

I have never been a big fan of "chrome" on a car, especially under the hood. Yeah, maybe the BBK will look a little bit nicer under the hood, but I would rather have consistent performance for my car. I would rather people say "Dang, your car is fast!" as opposed to "wow, that sure is a purty pipe ya got there!"

Yes, Bob Cosby now runs the Densecharger and JJ Powerpipe(the DC power pipe was modeled after this pipe).

Heat soak is bad for performance because the air is warmer. It is bad on our cars because it tells the EEC that the air is warmer and in turn it cuts timing under most driving conditions including WOT.

Would you rather have your Air Temp Sensor mounted into an insulated piece of rubber or mounted into a grommet that is surrounded by HOT metal? On my cobra, the DC Powerpipe stays cooler than my stock rubber pipe did, so I know that I am getting better performance than the stock setup. To each their own. :)
 
#33 ·
Ok

After reading some of these could it be possible that the Cobra's react better to the CAI than the GT? Since the Cobra is a heavy breather that really seems to need allot of air could the CAI just simply work better for it? I don't know just an observation.

I have a MAC CAI on my car I have never felt or even heard any idle or surge problems with my setup. Yes the CAI that is chrome does get a little hot when driving in stop and go situations. That is why I take a bag of ice to the track :D

The power that the CAI introduces is not really all that noticeable but I do see more throttle response on my Cobra... One thing I did try, and those out there with 99 Cobra's and up might want to do. Right next to our fog lights/driving lights, there is another little small hole. I went to O'rielly Auto and got some tubing then I got under my car and worked it so that the tubing runs from that hole to the CAI up top. I tried to keep it as drirect as possible. You cannot see it at all from looking at it at the front and it does not really help at lower speeds BUT when I get close to the higher RPM and going 80+ MPH I can seem to tell that it is getting more air and really helps the DOHC breathe. Others that have road with me can tell the same thing.

Well there is my .02 not much help but some :)
 
#34 ·
Z06killer, you can make a fenderwell kit for your car out PVC real easy. I bought my Denscharger because I have no time to mess with buying and test fitting pipe. I feel that one could easily fab up the fenderwell set up. On a GT though the part that goes from the MAF to the TB would require a little bit of doing though. You'd need to cut pipe on an angle to get just the right shape. It's not worth it. A nice touch about the Densecharger is that he painted the pipe gloss black. It looks really good. It is a well thought out *KIT* versus someone "throwing" it together ala Home Depot. To do it, you'd need a 4" to 3" reducer with hose clamps(for the maf), 2x 4" PVC 90 degree bend. Don't forget the K&N. You might be able to swing the whole thing for $70? I dunno, I've never tried it. If you didn't have time, Denscharger is one of the better cold air intakes out there. I've also heard nothing but good things about WMS.<<< I think they're canucks though?!? *cough* buy American *cough*
 
#37 ·
Another vote for the Anderson Power Pipe. Steve @ Houston Performance dynoed an 01 cobra picked up 10 hp with stock mass air. I already had the UPR pipe or I would have one on my car right now. With the Anderson pipe it relocates the meter in the fender so you don't have that bend right in front of the meter like you will with the densecharger or WMS. Some say the turn in front of the meter causes the idle problems. I have the mac cold air on my other car ( i did not know any better when I bought it ) and do not have idle issues, but I think it's different from car to car.

Jason.
 
#39 ·
My BBK will be here today...I'll let ya know what I think about it.

Ed
 
#40 ·
Is it true that a CAI will lean your car out? I've read that before on here and stangnet.


Either way I'm wanting the full Densecharger and Pro-M 87mm MAF

Is that a good combo?
 
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