Ford Mustang Forums banner

reliability of windsor parts at high hp....

2K views 30 replies 15 participants last post by  Dono2 
#1 ·
for your everyday 3000-4000 hp motor whats everyones take on ford based motors?

i am die hard ford... even though one of my race cars is a chevy... and it seems to be that in the aftermarket world certain things are just better and last longer. i've pretty much reached the point with the chevy program that i need to update to a different style block for longivity. the bae hemi market looks to be the best alternative.

now i havent tried to push the envelope in a ford yet.. and really dont know if its worth it. so what ford options are out there for big hp?
 
#3 ·
lol i get what your saying.. but literally everytime i see a BAE hemi out there it's 3000+ hp and i'm at the point now with my blower car i need to go hemi.... i have a pretty nice little ford i'd like to keep ford powered and be fast.. but just wondering how much i could actually do Windsor powered... just a guess but after 2000 hp i'd be pushing the envelope of available parts out there.
 
#8 ·
i am the builder... i have used butler in the past with great success and still get 90% of my machine work done there...... i've just reached my limit of what i can do with conventional stuff i think. i do this stuff myself mostly with no sponsors... and my day job takes care of my family and i sling wrenches on the side to afford this hobby. now i'm at the crossroads because if i learn to harness all the horsepower i'm making now, i'll have to eventually step up my program to get competitive.. no way in the world i can run with some of these outlaws. for now i'm always the underdog and underfunded... but we make some good power! right now i'm playing with a wheel speed control device to help with applying it to the street..
 
#10 ·
your not going to beat the cost of a brad 10X for strength/part availability/and reliability

my engine builder builds some of the fastest hemi's in the country and hes told me a few times how cheap they are to build compared to the SBF we run in the X car
 
#13 ·
but is this about the limit? same with the BBC stuff.. looks like everyone runs into a brick wall here except the BRAD stuff and well other simmilar designs. just cannot keep a crank in the block long.

i was thinking of running 30-50% nitro in an engine in the future also. it will be a blown 14-71 hh combo.
 
#18 ·
not trying to stir a pot per say.. just shooting off ideas and questions i have. and why wouldnt the answers be here... there are a LOT of fast guys registered here.. lots of machinist .. lots of smart folks...

yes we are far far away from OE type stuff when we start talking about this stuff...
 
#17 ·
well i sure cant use 10k hp but i wonder how common those blocks are and if its hard to get ahold of.. parts availability...etc.. i'll have to do some googling.. i'm also curious about the 481x stuff but dont know of anyone personally that has one i can look at and talk to.
 
#24 ·
Call Bullseye Turbo and ask to talk to Bill Devine - he's one of the owners there now. His own mustang is a small displacement, billet blocked SBF with twins on it - the car runs high 3's in the 1/8th. He's over 3,000 hp. He can get you there. This is his car:

 
#25 ·
Call Bullseye Turbo and ask to talk to Bill Devine - he's one of the owners there now. His own mustang is a small displacement, billet blocked SBF with twins on it - the car runs high 3's in the 1/8th. He's over 3,000 hp. He can get you there. This is his car:

https://youtu.be/DP9Nshbp-XY
i do see a lot of advantages if you can kinda straddle the fence with the smallblock... especially considering the weight break... as of now i'm at the heavest weight class because i'm big block and i've got a screw blower on top. i just need to win the lottery so i can have several cars all with different combos just to see how they react. also having the heavier car can be a small advantage on the no prep stuff.. decisions decisions decisions...
 
#26 ·
I think all that stuff is super-cool, but watching Bill and Jamie Otts strap in and make hits makes me not want to go that fast. It's a lot of work, insane amounts of necessary safety stuff (Bill uses some kind of carbon fiber neck/spine brace his wife has to strap on him), and in general it's a huge procedure.

My hat's off to anyone who does it. The scariest part (to me) is the exposed trannies with the u joint right next to your elbow. Watch Jamie's test hit at 3:12 in this video:



At 4 minutes in, you can get a sense of how insanely fast that car is - the camera guy was standing at about the 200' mark, and Jamie blows by him in real time. Nuts. I think you've got to be at least a little suicidal to do it.
 
#27 ·
I’m with you Alex. In the picture you can see the safety tube the driveshaft goes through. It’s like a built in arm rest....that can rip you in pieces. (My friends car, not mine). This thing is basically a 3,200hp go kart.
 

Attachments

#28 ·
the exposed trannys do freak me out... im running a jw pro mod glide.. and i still have a tranny cover over it.. i just dont want it exposed in my car. i know that the .030 aluminum wont slow down anything that explodes.. but i just want the cover there. as far as the driveshaft tunnel around that u joint right beside my gut.. i have an s&w tunnel and I hope i never see it get tested.. my shifter is actually mounted off of it.
 
#29 ·
Haha I got the chills just sitting in it. I can’t imagine all that power in a chassis like that. And being like 3” off the ground. Wild
 
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Top