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post #1 of 18 Old 09-11-2013, 04:00 AM Thread Starter
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UPdate with new pics - brackets for Ford Accessories on LS engine...

Hey All:

Edit: New pics below...

Thought it was interesting that nobody offered this kind of thing, especially since you don't get any accessories or a tensioner when you buy an LS out of the yard around here. I wanted to be able to run the stock Fox body PS pump and alternator.

Seems a no-brainer for someone using carb, but works with EFI too. At the alternator's highest, its about even with the top of the factory truck oil fill neck.

Here's an old pic of the prototype. The alt bracket is useable alone or with the power steering bracket. Uses commonly available serp belts.



The gist is: This setup works with truck accessories. The alt bracket has two positions, so you can run it with the stock truck, '010 Camaro (shown), or LS1 pumps (LS1 pump requires .750 spacer -have those too).

It includes the custom turnbuckle tensioner (unlike prototype, tensioner has jam nuts, nice finish etc), so you don't need/use the factory GM tensioner.

EDIT: I forgot to mention, you can run just the alternator bracket and a shorter belt. Either because you've got manual steering, or just short belt it at the track...

After doing some testing, working with a patent attorney, etc. I've got some finished sets coming back (tomorrow?) and will have pics up directly. I'm filing a patent on this. What the heck, I've always wanted to be an inventor...

I've got to run some copies to get the pricing reasonable, barring phenomenal volume looks like it'd be $225 for both brackets, tensioner, etc. Alternator side alone is like $150.00

Is anyone else interested in using a setup like this?

I've got an idea about getting an AC bracket involved, but haven't moved on it yet.

Any feedback appreciated!

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Very cool Steve. With the amount of LSX swaps going on, this is a great idea.

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Thanks Tony!

Still waiting on getting the stuff off the mill. Pics as soon as they get finished.

I've got a slightly different setup that works with the similar Delco stuff, standard fitting saginaw pumps, 60s,70s,80s GM alternators, etc.

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These came out looking great! Working on pics on real engine with belt installed now.

Finished pricing looks about like anticipated:

Alt bracket $150.00
PS bracket $75.00 (comes with underdrive PS pulley shown)

Brackets are 6061-T6 billet.

Alternator: Two position, allows use of truck, F-body (requires spacers), or 2010 Camaro Water Pump. Fits 1G,2G, and a lot of the 3G alternators, including Fox alternators. V-belt alternators would need a serpentine pulley.



Power Steering:
For Fox style PS pump. Would work with SN95 Pump too, but SN95 Pulley won't work.



Here's one with a Chevy alternator, but it gives a better idea of what the finished tensioner looks like:



Spacers are 7/8" aluminum rod drilled for 10mm bolts, kind of make everything else looks small, but they're mega mega strong.

Let me know what you think. Anyone think something like this would be helpful with their LS swap?

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me personally dont like the alt that high, I would think some guys like a low mount to keep the engine clean. I used the stock camaro p/s pump on my stang and just had the hose end redone. I'm thinking how the throttle body piping would have to go around the alt or p/s pump.

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see where my tubing comes out I'm not sure if there would be room if the alt was that high or the p/s pump if I went the other way. Now if your carbed well then no problems


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see where my tubing comes out I'm not sure if there would be room if the alt was that high or the p/s pump if I went the other way. Now if your carbed well then no problems
Thanks for the comments. These brackets are for the truck style accessories, so its not apples to apples for your setup - I'm assuming you're using Camaro stuff. The truck accessories do stick out approx .75 further than the Camaro, so I can see where you're coming from.

Its a little hard to tell in the pics, but the alternator doesn't come up higher than the stock truck oil fill neck, and it only gets that high in the position for the truck water pump. You can see its lower than the fill neck in the prototype photo while using the car pump.

Its funny also, for everyone who says they want it lower, there's someone else who's happy because it clears their turbo headers. I think I'll have to do one where they're lower and sell both...

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Correct I'm using Camaro brackets since I'm using all the accessories. Gotta have a/c in Florida. I think with turbo headers it should work good. Your right on saying they want lowers also, no matter what or how you make something, somebody always wants it different lol. good luck, looks good.

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LXguy: First, nice job on the brackets. My question is: True or false: By looking at the pics, it looks as though your alt bracket could easily be flipped around for a driverside mount.
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Hey:

Thanks!

Working on that. The bracket will flip, *but* there is no place to mount the turnbuckle tensioner on the other side. I'm pretty sure if you used a factory tensioner it would fly, but haven't had time to check that yet.

Will post back here as soon as I figure it out.

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LX guy, I didn't notice your waterpump until you pointed out that there was no place to mount adjusting rod on the drivers side. What water pump are you using? Is that 2010-UP camaro? The early LS1 and truck motors have the water inlet on the opposite side(truck comes out on top) I guess, the better question is, what LS drive belt location are you using(camaro, corvette, or truck ect)? I am building a 5.3 truck block with aftermarket car intake. with early LS1 camaro damper and water pump(pump pictured below). What do you think of mounting the adjusting rod on driver side with this style WP?


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These brackets use the truck accessory spacing. They'll work with the truck, '10+ Camaro, and LS1 water pump (LS1 water pump needs spacers).

Since you mount the tensioner rod to the factory tensioner boss, there isn't anyplace to mount it on the driver's side. However, if you mount the bracket on the driver's side, and you're not running a bracket on the passenger side, it should be possible to use the factory tensioner.

Bracket doesn't work flipped to driver's side. Should be a simple fix though. Going to work on getting it set up that way.

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I am planning on a swap on my foxbody this spring,, will most likely use a truck engine,, I would be interested in a AC bracket as I want to have heat and AC for my driver
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Those look great! Did you ever come up with anything on the AC bracket?

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Hey Guys:

Well, this hasn't come along as quickly as I had hoped, but I am still working on it.

Ive got some other cool stuff in the pipe as well.

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Hi!

I really need these brackets! Any chance you can quote me a set? Please send me a PM if you're able to!

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Hey:

Sorry, i havent been recieving my forum notifications lately.

Im currently out of stock on these. It will probably be a while before i make another batch. Im pretty backlogged with other stuff at present.

These are set up to work with truck accessory spacing. They will probably not work with the truck water pump, but will work with the ls1 pump - but i have customers who tell me they do. They will work with ls1 pump (with spacers) and will also work with the 2010 camaro pump.

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