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I CAME TO The DARK SIDE

i already sold or is currently for sale all my 429-460 and sbf parts, i ordered a brand new seat of L92 heads with rockers , delivered to me came to $630.00, they should be here by next Wednesday, i hope i am making the right choice here, I am following the build of the famous car here ..lol..hoping to run at least 10.50's, i am going to mill the chevy word off the valve covers and put 302 powered on them or powered by ford...


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1st: why would you put 302 powered on there? Anyone who's seen a 5.0 before will know it's not one

2nd: there is no "chevy" on the valve covers, the covers only have holes for the coil brackets/coils

3rd: why hide the chevy power? You're upgrading to something that's more effective and cheaper, flaunt it.


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i already sold or is currently for sale all my 429-460 and sbf parts, i ordered a brand new seat of L92 heads with rockers , delivered to me came to $630.00, they should be here by next Wednesday, i hope i am making the right choice here, I am following the build of the famous car here ..lol..hoping to run at least 10.50's, i am going to mill the chevy word off the valve covers and put 302 powered on them or powered by ford...
I just sold my race car. Now building a street car. Pretty much starting over again from nothing. I have a running sn95 with a v6 that will be getting a mild 351 and a Tremec. Should be good for low 11s when all is said and done. The only problem is going to be adapting the a/c, ps, and alternator brackets from the v6 over to the 351. Not sure how I'm going to go about that yet. My biggest gain is I'm finally rid of the '79-93 fox body with it's horrible brakes and 4 lugs. The sn95 is SO much better, even handling, and ride is better than the old '79-93 clunkers. You don't know what your missing till you make the swap. The only thing is I just wish I could afford a decent f-body camaro to swap my motor into.

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1st: why would you put 302 powered on there? Anyone who's seen a 5.0 before will know it's not one

2nd: there is no "chevy" on the valve covers, the covers only have holes for the coil brackets/coils

3rd: why hide the chevy power? You're upgrading to something that's more effective and cheaper, flaunt it.
1) not really, i posted a picture of one with the front mount dizzy conversion that uses a sbf dizzy , it was funny several people here and on other form though it was a ford motor


2)on the front mount dizzy conversion i saw it had valve covers with chevy on it,

3)not really hiding it, i just like to mess with people

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I just sold my race car. Now building a street car. Pretty much starting over again from nothing. I have a running sn95 with a v6 that will be getting a mild 351 and a Tremec. Should be good for low 11s when all is said and done. The only problem is going to be adapting the a/c, ps, and alternator brackets from the v6 over to the 351. Not sure how I'm going to go about that yet. My biggest gain is I'm finally rid of the '79-93 fox body with it's horrible brakes and 4 lugs. The sn95 is SO much better, even handling, and ride is better than the old '79-93 clunkers. You don't know what your missing till you make the swap. The only thing is I just wish I could afford a decent f-body camaro to swap my motor into.

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ya right , you are the biggest Cleveland fan in America

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ya right , you are the biggest Cleveland fan in America
Actually, I'm the biggest fan of 'cheapest hp' in America.



And only the bbf's fit that category.



The 351C comes a distant second to those.

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Actually, I'm the biggest fan of 'cheapest hp' in America.



And only the bbf's fit that category.



The 351C comes a distant second to those.
man that is great, now will you please stop posting useless stuff on my post, everyone on this site knows how you feel about 351c motors ,

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Dude, the first post you made was usless. It could have just as well been Lounge material. I mean, what's the point of advertising your going to put an LS motor in your car? It would have been different if you had advertised the fact, then followed up with some tech requests or suggestions. There was no tech info or request implied in the first post. So, I took it as another BS session which is what half the stuff on here is anyway.

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Dude, the first post you made was usless. It could have just as well been Lounge material. I mean, what's the point of advertising your going to put an LS motor in your car? It would have been different if you had advertised the fact, then followed up with some tech requests or suggestions. There was no tech info or request implied in the first post. So, I took it as another BS session which is what half the stuff on here is anyway.
ok, fine i will take the bait, you are just pissed that another ford person is bailing ship , cause a lsx motor is a mean mo fo in near stock form for cheap, 630.00 for a set of brand new heads with rockers to my door. they will support 600+ hp in bone stock trim, and another 500.00 for a running 6.0 motor...i talked #### about the lsx motor at first but like most people that do that , i was mis informed and actually knew knowing , till i see it first hand and stood there as my friend built his motor and i knew 100% what was in that motor, and by dam it will flat fly with stock parts, and it idles sweet and not rattle your brains out

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and by dam it will flat fly with stock parts, and it idles sweet and not rattle your brains out
Nothing new under the sun.

Maybe your buddy just knows how to choose the correct parts to build a normal high hp street motor?


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congrats,you made a good choice.....cheap and easy horsepower bar none!

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Nothing new under the sun.

Maybe your buddy just knows how to choose the correct parts to build a normal high hp street motor?
not really, it was nothing super natural or a big secret, otf cam, stock lower end, msd -lap top tuned , i was just amazed that is was so cheap and easy,

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I knew that sooner or later more folks will accept this fact. I was a hardcore Ford fan but when you compare what an LSx is capable of for such little money...it is like trying to swim against the flow. Finally I'm going to be working on it late next month and I can't wait.

Back to the OP...my combo will end up like Dave Mizzell except a little more aggresive on the engine and at the same time streetable. I'm waiting for UCC to send me the hybrid converter. I know you want to get it going as cheap as possible but don't cheap out too much in the cam! A custom cam will do wonders with the L92 heads!

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i was just amazed that is was so cheap and easy,
Knowing which parts to choose makes it cheap and easy.....

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Nothing new under the sun.

Maybe your buddy just knows how to choose the correct parts to build a normal high hp street motor?
at first i though you was just a true hard core ford fan , a 351c lover, talked to you a few time on pm...now i realize , you are a dumb ass

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lol again....

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at first i though you was just a true hard core ford fan , a 351c lover, talked to you a few time on pm...now i realize , you are a dumb ass

Your the one with a problem of "can't-decide-what-I-want-from-one-minute-to-the-next".

Are you taking female hormone treatments?


You start a BS session, then you get pissed when people reply to it for what it is.

Engraving "Ford" on chevrolet engine valve covers? No, it's not a BS thread. Who could have possibly thought that?


Hardcore Ford fan am I? No, just a harcore fan of reality and facts. Cheaper, easier. Just because you can't find the facts on Google doesn't mean they don't exist. Try going to a real race, comparing part for part, car for car, motor for motor, and income for income. If your still not convinced after that. Your hopelessly lost and just need to do whatever.

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Hardcore Ford fan am I? No, just a harcore fan of reality and facts. Cheaper, easier. Just because you can't find the facts on Google doesn't mean they don't exist. Try going to a real race, comparing part for part, car for car, motor for motor, and income for income. If your still not convinced after that. Your hopelessly lost and just need to do whatever.

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Your the one with a problem of "can't-decide-what-I-want-from-one-minute-to-the-next".

Are you taking female hormone treatments?


You start a BS session, then you get pissed when people reply to it for what it is.

Engraving "Ford" on chevrolet engine valve covers? No, it's not a BS thread. Who could have possibly thought that?


Hardcore Ford fan am I? No, just a harcore fan of reality and facts. Cheaper, easier. Just because you can't find the facts on Google doesn't mean they don't exist. Try going to a real race, comparing part for part, car for car, motor for motor, and income for income. If your still not convinced after that. Your hopelessly lost and just need to do whatever.
I suppose this one dont count.
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Your the one with a problem of "can't-decide-what-I-want-from-one-minute-to-the-next".

Are you taking female hormone treatments?


You start a BS session, then you get pissed when people reply to it for what it is.

Engraving "Ford" on chevrolet engine valve covers? No, it's not a BS thread. Who could have possibly thought that?


Hardcore Ford fan am I? No, just a harcore fan of reality and facts. Cheaper, easier. Just because you can't find the facts on Google doesn't mean they don't exist. Try going to a real race, comparing part for part, car for car, motor for motor, and income for income. If your still not convinced after that. Your hopelessly lost and just need to do whatever.
i was like all the other lsx haters, only cause i was blind and talked smack and really do not know wtf i was talking about till i seen it first hand and did a ton of fact finding, i really do not get you, u hate lsx motor but you seem to hang out in the lsx section and talk smack on something you do not know about.. and i started a BS post? where , all i did was annou8nce my decision to go lsx with out me asking i got several pm and emails on what to do, etc...guess next time i will ask you for permission before i make a new post

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If you're going to say something as dumb as putting Ford on valve covers that said Chevrolet, expect to get bashed for it. Obviously, judging by your admitting of not knowing ####, you haven't looked into BBF's either. Maybe you should look outside your friend's LSx that was right in front of you, instead of getting a woody when you see a nice shiny motor and say "YEAH I want THAT kind, the shiny one!"

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i was like all the other lsx haters, only cause i was blind and talked smack and really do not know wtf i was talking about till i seen it first hand and did a ton of fact finding, i really do not get you, u hate lsx motor but you seem to hang out in the lsx section and talk smack on something you do not know about.. and i started a BS post? where , all i did was annou8nce my decision to go lsx with out me asking i got several pm and emails on what to do, etc...guess next time i will ask you for permission before i make a new post

Can you quote me saying where I said I 'hate' any certain type of motor?

All I've done is post the facts about prices. It's that simple. It's what you get $ for $, is all I've ever talked about.

That being said, I didn't come one here to talk 'smack'. I saw you posted, clicked on the thread, and read about your plans. I recognized your username and realized we had PM'd before. So, I decided to post up about my new plans also just for the hell of it. Then, somehow, the real BS started....again.

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I guess you can count that 'one'...........in a million.

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Can you quote me saying where I said I 'hate' any certain type of motor?

All I've done is post the facts about prices. It's that simple. It's what you get $ for $, is all I've ever talked about.

That being said, I didn't come one here to talk 'smack'. I saw you posted, clicked on the thread, and read about your plans. I recognized your username and realized we had PM'd before. So, I decided to post up about my new plans also just for the hell of it. Then, somehow, the real BS started....again.
ok, fine lets talk prices, in real life once its all done, im sure there will not be a whole lot in $$$ difference but a lot more performance for what i paid , i know i paid 630.00 for a brand new in the box assembled heads with rockers delivered to my door, that are aluminum and flow huge numbers, with a good cross section, thats keeps velocity up, yes i could use my 472 motor but its heavy, rattles your brains out and to run what i want to run the ehads are 2000.00 ,

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That is the only reason I even somewhat understand an LS Stang swap...F bodies have rattletrap interiors out of this world.

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I guess you can count that 'one'...........in a million.
in your book..i cant see why you have'nt been banned from this section yet....but like i told you a while back(you dont have a clue about ls motors)you should leave people alone with their decisions instead of infusing people with your rhetoric and propaganda every chance you get...and by the way i just ran a 10.02 with my cam only 6.0 junkyard motor...and that was with the stock type heads(not l92's)....now call me a liar and try to figure out how to discredit it so you can sleep good at night.....

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That is the only reason I even somewhat understand an LS Stang swap...F bodies have rattletrap interiors out of this world.
I have to laugh a little when I hear this. "F bodies have rattletrap interiors" compared to what? A new BMW, or even a new F150? Yeah sure, but compared to a 87-93 fox car? Those cars are all prety long in the tooth and are about the same. For every stooge I see driving an F-body rattletrap that looks/sounds like ####, I see atleast as many idiots driving a POS mustang that's just as bad if not worse.
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i have never liked the camaros, any year..even the beloved 67-69 cars , only one that i may even glance at is the 70-1/2 split bumpers

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in your book..i cant see why you have'nt been banned from this section yet....but like i told you a while back(you dont have a clue about ls motors)you should leave people alone with their decisions instead of infusing people with your rhetoric and propaganda every chance you get...and by the way i just ran a 10.02 with my cam only 6.0 junkyard motor...and that was with the stock type heads(not l92's)....now call me a liar and try to figure out how to discredit it so you can sleep good at night.....
i love it when people talk smack and have no idea wtf they are talking about ..and not even own one or done much research and fact finding, i did my homework on the net , for weeks, talk to at least 25 different people, with same type motor and got the same answer, and then i went one step more and seen a motor built, they parts used and the times it ran in person, so there was no BS called , and if i had not seen it in person and knew what was in that motor i would be like raceallday and call BS you raceallday need to not post in the section, you run a ford , not a ls motor all your post in the ls section are BS smart ass remarks

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thats keeps velocity up, yes i could use my 472 motor but its heavy, rattles your brains out and to run what i want to run the ehads are 2000.00 ,

Why did your 472 "rattle your brains out"?

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Why did your 472 "rattle your brains out"?
don't matter i am done with you

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Hey 5.0Mustang5speed,

I too have taken the journey to the Dark side. The LSX is a hell of a motor, the fox platform is universal to do whatever you want. Its your car, do what you want. Then race the ##### talkers and take their money. Oh, where did you get the new heads for that price?
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Hey 5.0Mustang5speed,

I too have taken the journey to the Dark side. The LSX is a hell of a motor, the fox platform is universal to do whatever you want. Its your car, do what you want. Then race the ##### talkers and take their money. Oh, where did you get the new heads for that price?
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over at http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/index.php from a guy , his screen name is see5 , super nice guy, great feed back too, he always has a few sets for sale, mine where 630.00 assembled with rockers to my door

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Blah Blah Blah, and bunch of pissing and moaning... If you want to do something, do it, don't bash other people's stuff because it comes back to bite you. I'm a fan of going fast, whether it's a Chevy, Ford, Dodge, Toyota, or Honda... Either way, if you want to put your hard work, time and energy into something, who is anyone else to bash you for it....? I love windsor motors, and I love LS_ motors, I like just about anything that burns gasoline, I would rather see pictures of the car and parts as opposed to people going back and forth saying "this is dumb", "no your dumb", "no, your dumb", "nuh-uh, your dumb".... Your both dumb for coming on here one for saying that it's better to have a Ford in a Ford, and other one was bashing a Chevy in a Ford, now he is building one... Keep your mouths shut, and your heads down, and you won't run into these problems. Either way, cool build, in for pictures, it's hard to beat the LS_ power plant, however the new 5.0 DOHC motor is going to give it a run for it's money, that's for sure.
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