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545 Ci BBf or LSX

looks like i will have some decent $$$ to play with soon, with tax time around the corner, i am having a hard time deciding on a LSX 6.0 with L92 heads or a 545 ci BBF , i want to run 9.90 or faster


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i would think it would be easier and cheaper with the LSx.

smaller package, a lot lighter, make the same power with the same ease.

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i would think it would be easier and cheaper with the LSx.

smaller package, a lot lighter, make the same power with the same ease.

just my opinion.
im open to all opinions, i have no experience with the lsx motors, i would like to learn, on the other end i know a 545 with good heads will make 700+ hp, on the down side a good set of heads to feed a 545 motor cost about 3k, i will only have about that to spend on the car

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a built LSx with some spray can make that too, on stock GM heads.

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i think i could build a LSX motor for what i have to spend and headers

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it would be pretty kick ass.


i would be willing to bet that a 550-600 HP lsx with go just as fast as a 700hp big block just because of the weight diff.

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it would be pretty kick ass.


i would be willing to bet that a 550-600 HP lsx with go just as fast as a 700hp big block just because of the weight diff.
LSx would be a great idea, very stout engine with tried and true potential. Can't beat the new technology of the LSx either. Just keep it in the same chassis as the company that made the motor and it will be kick ass.

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a built LSx with some spray can make that too, on stock GM heads.
i do not want to use nitrous,i want a fast bracket car, found several 6.0 motors , for 500.00 there is one on CL that came from a esclade that already has L92 heads , for 500.00

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i would be willing to bet that a 550-600 HP lsx with go just as fast as a 700hp big block just because of the weight diff.
the only problem with your theory is that its actually torque that matters

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LSx would be a great idea, very stout engine with tried and true potential. Can't beat the new technology of the LSx either. Just keep it in the same chassis as the company that made the motor and it will be kick ass.
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i do not want to use nitrous,i want a fast bracket car, found several 6.0 motors , for 500.00 there is one on CL that came from a esclade that already has L92 heads , for 500.00
thats a deal, BUY IT, the esclades have aluminum blocks too, even lighter.

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thats a deal, BUY IT, the esclades have aluminum blocks too, even lighter.
i will not have the $$$ till next month here is the post

http://wichita.craigslist.org/pts/1523969907.html

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a built LSx with some spray can make that too, on stock GM heads.
yeah.......but will it sound as cool

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Rather see a bbf .
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Since a complete aluminum headed 545 BBF can be built for less than $6000 complete, I think the choice is obvious for a 9.90 car. Add minitubes, UPR suspension, adjustable coil overs, and some 12" slicks and you'll have a low 9 second all motor car with a less than $6000 motor.

Do more research and see just how cheap the BBF parts are.

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Since a complete aluminum headed 545 BBF can be built for less than $6000 complete, I think the choice is obvious for a 9.90 car. Add minitubes, UPR suspension, adjustable coil overs, and some 12" slicks and you'll have a low 9 second all motor car with a less than $6000 motor.

Do more research and see just how cheap the BBF parts are.
I'd like to see this 545 for under 6k, care to make a parts list with prices?

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6.0L LS motor with 2 small turbos and about 8psi will feel like
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I'd like to see this 545 for under 6k, care to make a parts list with prices?

Quick summary:

Complete heads from Jegs: $2100

Rotating assembly w/rings and bearings: $1500

Carb: $800

Intake: $300

Headers: $400

Cam/lifters/push rods: $450

This is a slight over estimation in prices but covers the most expensive stuff.

Obviously buying used saves a lot of money.

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Quick summary:

Complete heads from Jegs: $2100

Rotating assembly w/rings and bearings: $1500

Carb: $800

Intake: $300

Headers: $400

Cam/lifters/push rods: $450

This is a slight over estimation in prices but covers the most expensive stuff.

Obviously buying used saves a lot of money.

Thats 5500 bucks before machine work, and you dont have a block rockers, valve covers, timing chain, balancer etc. That would be an 8-10k dollar build easy. There is 6k just in parts.

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Thats 5500 bucks before machine work, and you dont have a block rockers, valve covers, timing chain, balancer etc. That would be an 8-10k dollar build easy. There is 6k just in parts.
Complete used motors can be bought from a Pull-A-Part for less than $100. BBFs require very little machine work to the blocks, usually boring isn't even necessary. Valve covers? $150 at the most, and that's for the tall FMS cast aluminum. Chain and balancer might cost $200 for both. All that together does not at up to $4-5000. extra. Plus, used parts like intakes, carbs, headers, oil pans, and even heads cab be bought at a fraction of new price. No need for super expensive parts because a 545 ci motor doesn't need a lot rpm to make big hp.

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Personally I would do a LS combo. That coming from a Dart blocked 347 guy. auto camaros by me on some gas are running 10.60's and they drive it everywhere, I MEAN EVERYWHERE. Pumpgas on the street and good gas at the track.
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Well I plan on 'bout $8gs for my notch with BBF. I'd Like to know what some of these "low buck" LSx mustangs have in em money wise?? Not say'n a stock bottom end 6.0,l92 heads,carb intake and 200 giggle pill can't run high 9s/Low 10s? I would think 350ci+ 300cfm head and heavy dose would.

What are some of the LSx swap guys got/gonna have in their setup dollar wise? My $$$ # is with susp. front and rear,engine+tranny. But I'll be happy with a solid 10 second slip on all motor from my combo.

But a 5.3 or 6.0 good h/c/i with a 76mm does sound tempting................


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People are getting the l92 motors for around $1000-2000 with the tranny and accesories. You then need a carb intake, carb, headers, cam, springs, stall, misc.... It's all probably within 2-3000 of each other.
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I have seen complete motors used for 6 grand that would run mid to low 9s.
Just look at Feetfirst on here he was selling motor a 501 that ran well in the 9s for 6,000.
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LSX is a great idea. I have had a 98 SS Camaro and a 598 inch BBF which was impossible to keep together. Do some research on bbf oiling problems and you will choose the LSX.

I cant stress enough, BBFs have oiling issues which really show up when raced,
you can make a ton of power with them but you gotta buy good heads and modify the oiling system. Plus think about the weight issue.

BBF dudes dont flame me as one of my old 557 motors is still running in a low 9 sec ranger. I respect them alot.

I just think the LSX is the better choice. Although you will prob need a power adder to get to the 9s.

I think you would have a much easier time getting into the 9s on motor with a BBF though....

If I was gonna do it id buy a BBC....you cant beat them for HP per dollar.

The only reason I have a SBF in my car is I had a trans, elec water pump, intake, dist, headers cam and heads already.

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go here for oiling on a bbf.
http://www.highflowdynamics.net/
the reason y most drag race cars have chevy motors is because u can find parts easy. both motors will get u to run them times just on what kind of money u are wanting to spend.
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Here is an article I did on a guy's L92-headed 6.0 setup in a 88-92 Mustang:

http://www.planetlsx.com/vehicles/Ch..._with_L92s/107

I was so impressed with his car that I'm building the same setup in a 2000 Z/28 only I will use an aluminum block.


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