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post #1 of 92 Old 11-25-2018, 09:35 PM Thread Starter
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93 Cobra 363ci 5speed build

My 93 cobra #4275 weight 3420lb Race weight other wheels and tires 3360lb

The Plan, Build a really nice daily driver keeping it looking as stock as I can. Many build a DD including me thats fast low 11s high 10s but not really dependable at that level. This time I'm hoping to make it more dependable.

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Dart Block 363 Trick Flow 205 11R heads Long Block build by FordStroker.com (Have)
Innovators West Balancers (Have)
T-56 Magnum 1st 2.66 6th .063 (Have)
Crossmember (Stifflers) (Have)
QuickTime Bellhousings RM-8031 (Have)
Clutch McLeod RXT Twin Disc 1000HP Clutch (Have)
Clutch Fork (M-7515-A) (Have)
Speedo cable Pioneer CA3011 (CA-3011)(Rockauto.com) (Have)
McLeod Aluminum Flywheel (Have)
Maximum Motorsports Aluminum Clutch Quadrant (Have)
Maximum Motorsports High Performance Clutch Cable (Have)
McLeod Pressure Plate Bolts (Have)
402897 - Prosport Spark Plug Wire Boot - Black) (Going to slide this on the cable to help keep the heat off it and the speedo cable) (Have)
Stock Air Box (Have)
Megasquirt PNP (Have)
C&L 85mm Mass air (have)
Stock cobra throttle body 65mm (Have) 75mm Throttle Body (Plan on buying)
Cobra intake ported 80mm TB opening (Have) BigDogs Porting on Facebook did port work.
42 pound injectors (Have)
Nitrous kit (Have) (Nitrous Express between upper and lower intake) set on dual stage 150shots
Nitrous Express secondary fuel cell (Have) VP NO2 fuel
4.1122G motor mounts give a 3/4in lower than stock (Have)
4.1104G Transmission mount 1/4in lower than stock (Have)
PA Racing K member Rack and motor mounts 3/4in drop (Have)
Exhaust is Mac 1 3/4 shorties and 3in pro chamber and 3in out the back. (Have)
Aluminum drive shaft (Have)
Gears 331 (stock tire size 26in) (Have) May go 308s
31 spline axels and TrueTac (Have)
255lph T fuel pump (Have)
strange 10 way adjustable front and rear shocks (Have)
Electric fan (Have) Mark 8 fan with DCC controller
MSD 6 Plus with 2 step and timing retard (Have)
Baseline Street launch upper and lowers (Have)
Mickey Thompson ET streets S/S tires 315/35r17 on 10.25in 93 cobra replica wheels (Have)
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Want to keep it looking stock looking under the hood thats why the stock cobra stuff. Want to get High 10s out of the build. Would love more but would be happy with that. Am not going to turn more than 6,800 rpm on the car max. Thinking more like 6,300 rpm's.

I have no problem with you posting if you think I should do something different or ideas on my build. Its just a toy and I want to have fun with it.

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So few things I'm looking at.
I was debating to way to get the most air N/A and still look super clean so my thought is keep the cold air intake or go back stock box.
So the stock box has a outlet of 3 1/4in with the inlet being the complete fender hole. Plan on going with a 85mm mass air 3.34in inlet not sure outlet yet but the stock elbow is 3in. 75mm TB will be 2.95in
If I keep my cold air intake it is 3in in and out.
My plan is to go back stock but I will test both on a dyno.

I will also test the stock 65mm and a 75mm

One thing I'm still up in the air about is my compression (what to run 93 octain) Thinking 10:5 maybe 10:3 something like that.

What to add as big of a kit that I can add without opening my rings up to much. Plan on asking Woody but haven't yet.

My plan is to use the normal air box when daily driving but when I go to tune on WOT I will just come straight off the TB.


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Yes, Plan on running a cobra intake this is the discussion on it.

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Ok, So I plan on putting new Carpet, Floor mats in the cobra. Also will rewire my nitrous and 2 step. Have it below the radio right now but plan on moving it to the ash tray spot. (see pic)

Got my Baseline Street launch upper and lowers in just moving one step closer (Rome wasn't built in a day)

Also will be putting the stock radio in it the clock will work but thats it will be running a bluetooth hidden radio for this. Just giving it the stock look but a sweet radio. Have one in my MG now and love it. (ST4. 1000DB)

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Need more pics.
I'm going to post a ton of pics but for all the OLD info on my build and more pics with info on pics please see my old build ton of pics and dyno #s and slips.

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Link to the Widened wheels and info.
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Side view of the car. Its stock hight just has a huge back tire.
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Love it man! Especially the way you worked that fan into the stock shroud. Our build objectives are very similar, kind of an OEM+ as the VW kids called it.

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Sent my build off to Woody (Fordstrokers)
Dart SHP Block
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Compression 10 to ? To 1 that range. (93 octane)
Trickflow 205 11R heads
Fox Body Package (make oil pan drain for supercharger/Turbo) Just doing this to have.
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Rings gapped for 300 shot of Nitrous

205 11R are over kill but the way I see it if I ever decide to take that cobra intake off I want say I wish I would have got the 205s.

Guess I'm looking at 4-6 months out but he hasn't told me yet I'm sure its worth the wait.
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Was looking at picking up a TKO 600 from a guy. He told me I could shift the transmission in the car so I went to his house car wasn't running he was changing intakes. So I told him just hit me back when it was running. Guy got it running then backed out. After 2 months of talking and one trip to his house 60 miles away.

I was really looking at an A5 so I guess that will be my plan again.

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Was looking at picking up a TKO 600 from a guy. He told me I could shift the transmission in the car so I went to his house car wasn't running he was changing intakes. So I told him just hit me back when it was running. Guy got it running then backed out. After 2 months of talking and one trip to his house 60 miles away.

I was really looking at an A5 so I guess that will be my plan again.
The A5 that Tony sells is awesome. I've built quite a few of them, one guy lives in Alabama that has one I built for him before he rotated out of the service up here. He told me it's still going strong in his hot street car. They shift so smooth, but they are noisey.

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Motor is ordered they said April or May.

Think I'm going to go ahead an pickup a PA Racing K member. He said he could build it just the way I want it. I added convertible motor mounts and it dropped my motor 1/2in (on last build) so I'm thinking If I get him to drop it 1in. That would give me 1in more (1 1/2 total) if I use the convertible motor mounts total or 1/2 more (1in total) if I use stock motor mounts. Going to use their A-Arms with spring perches so I can use my stock springs.

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So few things I'm looking at.
I was debating to way to get the most air N/A and still look super clean so my thought is keep the cold air intake or go back stock box.
So the stock box has a outlet of 3 1/4in with the inlet being the complete fender hole. Plan on going with a 85mm mass air 3.34in inlet not sure outlet yet but the stock elbow is 3in. 75mm TB will be 2.95in
If I keep my cold air intake it is 3in in and out.
My plan is to go back stock but I will test both on a dyno.

I will also test the stock 65mm and a 75mm

My plan is to use the normal air box when daily driving but when I go to tune on WOT I will just come straight off the TB.
So I ordered the 85mm Mass air as I talk about above see in pic. I will use the air filter when I'm running at the track right off the TB. (This is for an 03-04 Mach 1)

https://www.americanmuscle.com/cnl-8...304-mach1.html

Also went a little overboard and ordered all ARP bolt. LMR has some really cool kits that they didn't have 15 years ago when I built my last big build.

https://lmr.com/item/LRS-10313HDW/mu...dware-kit-8593

Woody is using this one when adding my timing chain and water pump

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ARP Intake Studs 354-2103
ARP Valve Cover Studs 200-7602
ARP Header Bolts 400-1110 (These are the 5/6 heads to help clear the headers) (I have Studs I will use on both ends)

Ordered a new K&N for the stock air box.
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Thought I might post a couple pictures of my DD 363. Too small Cobra intake (ported lower), too small XE274HR cam, too small AFR 185 Outlaw heads (upgraded 8019 springs) Woody built the shortblock with my used Scat crank, and RPM rods. The idea was to build a nice streetable combo with mostly parts I had laying around.

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Thought I might post a couple pictures of my DD 363. Too small Cobra intake (ported lower), too small XE274HR cam, too small AFR 185 Outlaw heads (upgraded 8019 springs) Woody built the shortblock with my used Scat crank, and RPM rods. The idea was to build a nice streetable combo with mostly parts I had laying around.

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Have you put it in the car yet? Dyno or track numbers? N/A or ? Man I'm pumped.
I just took the pics last night. I've been taking my time with the details, just got the valvetrain set up this week. LGM 1.7:1 shaft mounted rockers, lifters are Morrel link bars, pushrods at 6.250" long. It will be naturally aspirated, aprox. 10:1 static compression, I haven't yet bought the PRO-M Engine management system I'll be using.

I will take it to the dyno when she's ready. Stock T5, won't be running at Byron with that.

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I just took the pics last night. I've been taking my time with the details, just got the valvetrain set up this week. LGM 1.7:1 shaft mounted rockers, lifters are Morrel link bars, pushrods at 6.250" long. It will be naturally aspirated, aprox. 10:1 static compression, I haven't yet bought the PRO-M Engine management system I'll be using.

I will take it to the dyno when she's ready. Stock T5, won't be running at Byron with that.

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Can't wait to see your numbers. Looks like with those heads will work great.

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Ordered my radio from post #4 and 6 new speakers. Hope to get started on the radio and new carpet in the next few weeks. You know the old saying (If it was easy everyone would do it).

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Going to use PA Racing K member so this is my thread asking for help on how custom to order it.

This is the last major piece of the puzzle. (Thanks for any help you can give)


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So I'm at home and just as I expected the 85mm it its smallest point is 82mm or 3.22in so it will work just as I had planned. Hope to do a ton this week so pics are coming.

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So did get much done today on my build was helping a friend cut his rear end down.

But went to another friends junk yard and got the right sensor for the 85mm being it was made for an 03-04 mustang. Took a min to find one. As you can see I cut the inside out didn't need it. Its just for looks anyway. Will work more on it tomorrow.
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So got a few measurements so you can see the size of everything as you can see the mass air is way to big to fit so I had to boil some water put the rubber ends in it and let them soften so it would stretch then one I put it on I kept it on till it cooled off so it would form to the new size see pics.
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Few pics of how it all turned out after it was done.

The stock air box is new had a cold air on it before just need to order and add the original sticker.
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