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A Dying Skill- Driving a Manual Tranny

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In the land of lazy Americans driving down the road while eating breakfast, talking on the cell phone, reading the GPS, or texting..it comes as no suprise that Manual tranny cars are being sold less and less. Here's a nice little article:

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I for one won't let my kids (4 and 6 currently) learn to drive in the years to come without ALSO learning to drive a manual transmission car. They can go through drivers education and all that with an auto tranny car, but ultimately if they drive, I'd rather they drive a manual tranny. I personally feel it keeps someone more in touch with the car, what's going on around them, and doesn't leave room for the lazy attentiveness that an auto tranny provides for a driver.

I daily drive an F150 which unfortunately wasn't available with a manual tranny with the 5.4...I miss having a manual very much. In the past my DD's have been a Manual Cavalier Z24, Mustang GT Vert, my current 99GT, 00Legacy GT, 92 Galant VR4. The 99GT is a "fun car" now and not driven too much except for cruises/shows/club events. My wife chose an auto tranny for her 08 Accord...which was her choice, but she can drive a manual tranny very well. With rush hour traffic in our area, she didn't want to deal with a manual. This, along with being 5 ft tall and the steering wheel right in her chest isn't too safe with the airbags when driving a manual tranny car. She tried driving a buddies S197 with a manual not too long ago and her face was almost all the way in the dash.... bummer.

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Definitely. If anyone knows how to drive a manual transmission they are already one step above a lot of people. I'll be driving a manual transmission until I physically can't.

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I want to convert my car to stick but damn the thought of putting pedals in it brings me to the point of not even thinking about it anymore.
My car has a real nice manual VB C-4 with brake.
Been toying with the idea of finding a nice 4cyl. coupe(if its even possible) and converting it to v-8.
I too learned to drive a stick first. 57 chevy with a warmed up 283 and a muncie 4-speed.
Learned how to drive and maintain a stick.

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My grandfather drove manual transmission equipped vehicles literally until the day he died at age 93.

He had 30 or so Mustangs over the years, one Camaro, and a Ford Aspire. ALL were manual, according to what he told me years ago and the ones I saw with my own two eyes.

I took my driving test in a 1997 Cavalier LS with a 5 speed, my first car was a manual trans, as were my second and third.

I too miss the manuals, and wish a lot more cars in today's market came with them.

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I agree with you. Hell, my woman driving a manual when I met her was one of the reasons I fell in love. I totally agree on the keeping things more in touch as well. I had the dealership damn near order me a manual when I got my 250, but settled for the auto. It wasn't soon after that they started major construction on the main freeway I commute on. I was never so happy I didn't get my way than for that two year stint.

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^ With the Ford? You are probably right. We have a 99F350 and that thing is a bastard compared to the 94 and 97 dodge Cummins we have.

I agree completely with the OP and I have a woman who was driving an 80 F250 I6 with a 4 speed when I met her. She is amazing. All the vehicles I drive regularly are sticks, and it is great. They last longer, and give me more control. ESPECIALLY towing (which my woman does and loves).

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Go to Germany, and it's right the opposite (or it was when I was there), you have to special order an automatic. Even the Mercedes cabs were stick shifts.

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Go to Germany, and it's right the opposite (or it was when I was there), you have to special order an automatic. Even the Mercedes cabs were stick shifts.
Then I'm set in my idea of getting a vehicle there when I get there this year.

My truck has an auto in it as that's how it came, but I'm been toying with the idea of doing a manual swap in it for some time now. Already priced out the parts, just need the time to do it. I hate automatic tranny.
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I plan on doing a 6 speed swap in my Mark VIII, since manual was never an option. I have owned for manual trans cars than anything else. If a manual is an option in any vehicle I buy, then it is always chosen over auto.

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For a daily driver in traffic, auto is the best. For my weekend/fun car, manual is the way to be!

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I learned how to drive on a manual, and have never owned a sports car that didn't have one. I would consider an F1-type transmission, but about the only thing I would actually WANT a full automatic in is a truck or SUV.

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For a daily driver in traffic, auto is the best. For my weekend/fun car, manual is the way to be!
Exactly. Try driving a Mustang with it's heavy clutch in city traffic. Forget it, I've done and my leg was killing me.

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Manual all the way, I used to have a little 5 speed ford aspiring to be a car, car. I have a auto in the truck, which is simply easier to tow with, just shut off the overdrive. Just so much more fun to be able to shift, but then again I'm a fast driver, so from point a to point b has to be fast.

IDK most drivers anymore really are awful. Anyone notice how people DO NOT know how to back up a vehicle? It used to be women were aweful at that and now I've notice men are also getting bad at it. They don't know how to use mirrors to back up!

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Go to Germany, and it's right the opposite (or it was when I was there), you have to special order an automatic. Even the Mercedes cabs were stick shifts.
The German chick I was seeing when I was there was telling me how an automatic was for people who couldn't drive a stick, she was asking me why do so many Americans drive automatic cars.

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I agree about learning to drive using a manual. Everyone should know how to drive such a vehicle. I haven't had a manual car in 5 years and I don't miss it at all.




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Exactly. Try driving a Mustang with it's heavy clutch in city traffic. Forget it, I've done and my leg was killing me.
HAHA old school stick car with mech. linkage and a heavy clutch was no fun either esp on cruise night.

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IDK most drivers anymore really are awful. Anyone notice how people DO NOT know how to back up a vehicle? It used to be women were aweful at that and now I've notice men are also getting bad at it. They don't know how to use mirrors to back up!
I agree 100%, I went to get lunch with a co-worker the other day, young kid I think about 23 or so. He seemed a little surprised that my car is a 5-speed, then when I pulled up to parallel park he asked me if I wanted him to get out to direct me. WTF??? I could've parked my truck in this spot but I was just in my little escort. Then he was amazed when I just used my mirrors and didn't turn my head around to park.

I have also noticed there has been a few people at my work who have needed to have clutch's put in. These people all had around 100k miles, I thought you should get a lot more then 100k out of a clutch? They've also paid about $1500 for the clutch job, I thought that was high too but I've always done my own work. Is that a normal price for a clutch, I know they can suck to do?

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I want to convert my car to stick but damn the thought of putting pedals in it brings me to the point of not even thinking about it anymore.
My car has a real nice manual VB C-4 with brake.
Been toying with the idea of finding a nice 4cyl. coupe(if its even possible) and converting it to v-8.
I too learned to drive a stick first. 57 chevy with a warmed up 283 and a muncie 4-speed.
Learned how to drive and maintain a stick.
Just do it. It's a very easy swap. Pedals are easy if you take the seat out.
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both of my vehicles are manual, i've tried teaching my wife on multiple occasions because we have 3 vehicles, 2 of which are mine and manuals... I keep telling her what if the cherokee breaks and you have to drive mine, she doesn't care. Some people just down right don't care and want the easiest way to do everything.

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I used to be pretty good at shifting without the clutch (T5) in my old Turbo Coupe. I knew the precise speed and RPM required for a seamless 3-4 shift, although I can't remember now.
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Just do it. It's a very easy swap. Pedals are easy if you take the seat out.
I'm 6'1 crawling over the door bars is a real drag .I bought this car it was being built to go fast like Ricky Bobby ! I had a guy Pm me about a 3550 swap but I told him no. I want to do it when the funds allow and the engine is back together. I was laid off in July so playing catch up from no income and very little unemployment . I have managed to buy back a few things I mistakingly sold when I was going to swap to carb.

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It says allot about a person whether or not they drive a standard. Who the hell wouldn't be bothered by a tranny that upshifted ONE SECOND before needing to downshift again? Damn things can't see turns and stoplights. This bothers me to the point that whenever I'm in an auto with someone, I'm dying to get the hell out of the thing. No wonder these thins don't last like standards do. ( on average) Plus, as soon as I see yellow (or red) - I'm off the gas and out of gear to save gas. The auto's still got 3 more gears to row through before a stop. When I'm 90 years old, I'll drive an auto - And to the folks who can't handle a clutch in traffic, maybe you should take your pencil legs to the gym. (sorry I had to do it).

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All of my kids have learned to drive with a stick , and when they bought their own cars , they bought sticks.

I own 2 rigs with automatic , a motor home , and an Explorer.
The wife has gotten fat and lazy and all she will drive id an automatic , which is fine as it keeps here out of the Mustangs and Ranger.

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I'm a fan of manuals in sports-oriented vehicles but I'll be damned if I want my F250 PSD or a luxury-ish car to be a manual. Autos are my friend on LONG drives or in heavy traffic.

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QFT. And to add as much hauling as I do, a manual trans would get tiring. Driving semi is freakin annoying, but at least the clutch is only used for stopping and starting.

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I enjoy driving a manual just because I can run in 1st gear through a parking lot and get a nice exhaust note or go through the 40mph zone in 3rd gear once again, to get a nice exhaust note. I'm glad my wife has an automatic, especially with my son in the vehicle. I want 100% of her focus to be on the road.

My mom on the other hand, loves to drive manuals. Her current car doesn't and she wishes it did. She had a Nissan 240sx for years. Now she's in a Chevy Cobalt.

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I don't have any manual's in the fleet currently (save my bike) and for the type of driving I've been doing for the last year plus... I don't miss it.

If I buy something for fun use (aside from my PW) it will be a manual, but for the type of DD duty etc... I've been doing, auto's are the bee's knees.

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