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When living in Memphis, TN [1991] it seemed like every 4th car on the road was a fox body. That being said, I still remember being on corral and mustangsworks on AOL 2.0 struggling with crappy dial-up.

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Iv'e owned Mustangs off and on all my life.I remember going over to Thomson racing and Brain showed me Storming Norman's car.Right after that I bought my daughter a 84 coupe and myself a 89 hatch back.I first thought that the fox wasn't a real Mustang, to square looking. Turns out to be the poor mans Porsche.Members of my family are making a living making parts for the 5.0.The 5.0 brought the Mustang back .Roger
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Every so often, I'll dig into a box of old Mustang (Fox) stuff... parts catalogs, reference books, some MM&FFs. Happened to come by these two pieces of history...
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Every so often, I'll dig into a box of old Mustang (Fox) stuff... parts catalogs, reference books, some MM&FFs. Happened to come by these two pieces of history...
I had that second book for many years then loaned it a friend, whom still not returned it after I am guessing 4-5 years now
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Every so often, I'll dig into a box of old Mustang (Fox) stuff... parts catalogs, reference books, some MM&FFs. Happened to come by these two pieces of history...
Buying a new copy of volume 2 off of Amazon will set you back about $130!
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I still fondly recall the 5.0 vs the GN / GNX rivalry back in the day. Both sides of the enthusiasts were dedicated, yet respectful of each other.

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Aaah the Glory Days. I remember waiting patiently for the next mag to come out summarizing the results of this races. Never could go myself, early in my career without vacation time.

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I posted these in another thread, but check it out. Courtesy of another member.
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Thought I'd share some of the Old School stuff from my Pro 5.0 pg.

Roush 25th Anniversary Mustang
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By Mark Kovalsky - June 17, 2014
One of the last things I worked on before leaving Roush was a 5.8L Twin-Turbo 1988 Mustang. Ford’s then SVO (Special Vehicle Operations) group commissioned the car. They had learned about Chevrolet’s plans to introduce the Corvette ZR-1. Rumors put the price of the new Corvette variant at about $60,000. It was rumored to be one of the fastest production cars of its time. SVO wanted to sell this Mustang for $30,000, and have it fast enough to outrun the ‘Vette. This ZR-1 killer was also going to be the 25th Anniversary Special.
The teardown revealed six teeth missing from second gear. I had someone in the car with me who verified I didn’t miss the gear. The T-5 just couldn’t handle the torque.

We built the car in a very short period. To save time, the engine wasn’t dynoed, but 375 hp/390 lb-ft is a conservative rating. All that grunt was shoved into the car with a T-5 transmission. The production plan was to use a T-56, but there wasn’t one available for another year or so.

The T-5 wasn’t up to the task. One time I did a WOT from a standing start. At 5,000 rpm I sidestepped the clutch, scurried up first, grabbed second, dumped the clutch, and started to floor it again.

I made it about halfway down when there was a loud BANG and I had no power going to the wheels. I coasted about a half-mile right back into the shop. The trans locked up as I was coasting through the doorway. The teardown revealed six teeth missing from second gear. I had someone in the car with me who verified I didn’t miss the gear. The T-5 just couldn’t handle the torque.

If this was the car that was going to mark the Mustang’s silver anniversary, it was going to do it in a blur. It ran a low 12-second quarter-mile, and it couldn’t hook up until just before the 2-3 shift. I put the first 2,000 miles on the car developing the tune. By the time I was done, the doors didn’t fit right. The chassis had twisted. The Fox body, even with all of SVO’s chassis stiffeners, wasn’t up to handling that much power. I believe that’s why this car never made it to production.

During the development process Jack Roush asked to drive the car. After his drive, he came to my desk and asked me if I was crazy enough to ride with him in the pouring rain. I asked if I really had a choice. He said “no”.

Because 25 years have passed, I believe the statute of limitations has expired, so I can tell you the next part: We were driving the 25th Anniversary Special in a rain that was so hard I often couldn’t see the end of the hood. Jack took me for a ride on an expressway demonstrating an engine miss at 100 mph. I told him if he got me back alive I knew how to fix that. He did, and I fixed it.
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Maybe the rarest of the bunch, the Octopus represented some out of the box (or maybe escaped from the asylum) thinking. Consisting of a two separate box style intakes stacked on top of one another, the crazy part was the series of tubes connecting what really amounted to two separate intakes on the same engine. The tubes contained RPM activated flapper valves which acted to close the tubes at high RPM, thus reducing the plenum volume by something like a third. In other words, the Octopus was possibly the first aftermarket variable geometry intake manifold for any brand.

It seemed to work well enough in testing, helping to catapult an LX hatch test car down into the 12 second bracket in the quarter, but for whatever reason, it never took off. We don't know how many were made, but we do know that weave never seen one in person

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"This was our attempt to get in to the EFI manifold business largely at the urging of Chris Kaufmann. We were still stuck on the carburetor kick from working with our BigBlock Ford customers. This was right around 1989. It was inspired by Dave Lyall from Roush. He was working with Norman Gray and had shown us the manifold they made by cutting apart a truck EFI upper and lower for Stormin Norman’s inaugural 5.0 shootout in Columbus Oh in 1990.
We bought cores from a Ford core supplier. We set up a plywood fixture on our craftsman table saw with an oil mister and a carbide blade. Like everything else we did, we had to put a bigger motor on the saw! 🤣🤣 we cut a pie shaped section out of the runners in such a way that when we put the two pieces back together the crosssection lined up reasonably well. Then we cut off the stock plenum. We cast the Trick flow plenum and the Twin 50 to 100mm air adapter seen forward in the airstream to the throttle body. We then cut the EGR tubing and re-welded it to relocate the EGR to the rear of the plenum. We welded inside and out and went through a WP24 Tig torch about every 3rd manifold from the tight space and the heat concentration on the torch body.
On the base we cut out the dividing wall between #1 and #5 runners and kicked out the bottom of #5 as close to the distributor as we could get. We arrived at these modifications from observing the great disparity in static airflow on or SF600 bench.
We benched it all up , took them to the powder coater and lost our ASS at $1300 ea.!"
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We went 9.90's pretty consistent. We were the 3rd to go in the 9's. Norman, Wolf, us. But alot of guys did really soon after also.
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Stock 87 5.0 ShortBlock, J302 Heads, Ultradyne Cam, Custom Fabbed Truck Based Intake By Toby & Pete Incaudo, Twin 60mm Throttle Bodies, Dual NOS Foggers 125hp Single Stage, Stock 19lb INJ's, Stock 87 EEC-IV, & MSD-6al.
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We went 9.90's pretty consistent. We were the 3rd to go in the 9's. Norman, Wolf, us. But alot of guys did really soon after also.
I have always loved this car. It was in two magazine's back in the day. I can put hands on both in less than 5 minutes.
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Toby Gant 79 Mustang
Stock 87 5.0 ShortBlock, J302 Heads, Ultradyne Cam, Custom Fabbed Truck Based Intake By Toby & Pete Incaudo, Twin 60mm Throttle Bodies, Dual NOS Foggers 125hp Single Stage, Stock 19lb INJ's, Stock 87 EEC-IV, & MSD-6al.
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Toby -
We went 9.90's pretty consistent. We were the 3rd to go in the 9's. Norman, Wolf, us. But alot of guys did really soon after also.
I have always loved this car. It was in two magazine's back in the day. I can put hands on both in less than 5 minutes.
A few days ago I got a message from Toby telling me that he still has the intake from his car and he's installing it on his wife's car as we speak . He's supposed to send me some pics so I'll try to remember to add it.
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His car just sat right and looked clean. Cowl hood. Steeda wing. Pro Star wheels. Cool car.
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His car just sat right and looked clean. Cowl hood. Steeda wing. Pro Star wheels. Cool car.
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This is great, keep it coming! I remember reading some of these issues when I found my dads “stash” in the late 90’s. For most kids the stash is porno mags mine was old issues of 5.0 related mags lol.

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..... For most kids the stash is porno mags mine was old issues of 5.0 related mags lol.

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Ditto here. This brings back memories. I bought parts from Toby’s shop back when he was in the magazine. Some of my first mods as I recall. Exciting days as a young engineer just getting out of college and tweaking my convertible.
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I bought an LX hatch a few years ago and had every intention of making it look his car but with Weld RT-S wheels and painting it wild strawberry red metallic. Went a different way. But I do want to still do an LX the same way.

But now I think I'd change it to an '85-'86 hatch.
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What about Lee Rutter? Running low 11s with factory 19lb injectors and factory SD ECU?
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Ditto here. This brings back memories. I bought parts from Toby’s shop back when he was in the magazine. Some of my first mods as I recall. Exciting days as a young engineer just getting out of college and tweaking my convertible.
Glad you enjoy it! Literally a tiny drop in the bucket! Got tons more material, so If there is interest I will keep going!
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https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hist...ox-body-rutter
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T-5 Trans Sends Power To An 8.8 With 4.56 Gears

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/hist...ox-body-rutter
Actually the gentleman who wrote that article is one of the OG's himself. Evan has been writing about, taking pictures of, & racing Mustang's for as long as I can remember! Good dude! For those who read Mustang magazines you should remember "Project Stocker"

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I was in the Mustang biz from 1987 till 2000. It was an amazing time for Hot Rodding......I remember just about all the big timers and innovators, etc. Might not remember exact details but enough to have great memories....

Publications for just Ford or Mustang were limited back in the 80s. Cars Illustrated really got me excited when the then modern Mustang was making waves.....
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Wow the memories! I saved all this magazines for years then eventually gave them away when I was finally time and a move was imminent.

South side Machine Bars! Yep I had those too!

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