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What mods do you have that allow you to do a 5k+ dump safely?

Detroit Locker and 31 spline axles?

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just mount up some bald donut tires from the junk yard J/k

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Welded torque boxes
Subframe connectors
Detroit locker or spool
31 spline axles
Axle studs
Good clutch

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Don't mean to sound stupid.... but here goes what is dumping????
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Don't mean to sound stupid.... but here goes what is dumping????
he means dumping the clutch at 5,000 RPM's or higher..

i don't think it can be done.. and not sure why you want to, just feather the clutch out.. you will get a much better launch that way then spending the money trying to get that high of a dump.. just my $.02
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What Bill said. He knows what's up (the wheels, in his case).

Cobraguy, there's no such thing as a stupid question. How else would you learn? Dumping the clutch basically means to side-step it and let it engage that way.

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5K??? I do 6K clutch drops at the track. Just waiting for something to break. I've welded the torque boxes and axles. 4.56's and MT ET drags.

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he means dumping the clutch at 5,000 RPM's or higher..

i don't think it can be done.. and not sure why you want to, just feather the clutch out.. you will get a much better launch that way then spending the money trying to get that high of a dump.. just my $.02
And this wealth of knowledge above comes from the fact that you have a Razzi Body kit on your car, and you list O2 extenders as a modification???

Don't answer a question with unsubstantiated quesses, when there is an answer available, by people who have done it for years.

Yes, Bill is correct: Locker or spool, 31 spline axles, strong clutch, subframes, good control arms, reinforced torque boxes, welded axle tubes, and the most important, SLICKS!

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I currently make between 5K and 6K dumps and have the 31 spline Superior axles, 31 spline C-Locker, 3 inch ARP studs, ET Streets!! I DO have Subframe Connectors as well and an aluminum driveshaft(if that matters)!

Currently I have STOCK rear suspension and STOCK clutch and have gotten a best of 1.75 60' time!!! So you don't NEED everything listed in RavenGT's post . . . . however, if you want to continue dumping that high you better listen to him!!

I am upgrading my clutch and then I will do the rear - the BIG thing is the axles and differential . . . there is no substitute for the C-Locker!!
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Actually Demon, you probably are correct. You don't NEED it, but if you want to make the drive home, you better think about gettin it. I know, I have been stranded, towed, flatbeded, and taxi'd home before. But not anymore.

If something breaks now, shiit, the car can stay there.

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he means dumping the clutch at 5,000 RPM's or higher..

i don't think it can be done.. and not sure why you want to, just feather the clutch out.. you will get a much better launch that way then spending the money trying to get that high of a dump.. just my $.02
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i don't think it can be done..
Hahahaha your kidding right?

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and not sure why you want to,
To go faster that's why most of us are here.

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just feather the clutch out
Okay we are not talking pansy street tires or Nitto DR's but slicks if you feather your clutch with slicks your toasting your clutch. Please try educating yourself before opening your mouth.

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you will get a much better launch that way then spending the money trying to get that high of a dump..
You really think so? Tell you what come play at my track or for that matter any track I visit while going to the FFW events and run and then tell me you'll get a better launch feathering the clutch...

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BUWHAHAHAHAHA!

I wonder if "badest02" woke up this morning knowing that by 9:00am he would be blasted as bad as he has been????

Body kits don't win races....
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Currently I have STOCK rear suspension and STOCK clutch and have gotten a best of 1.75 60' time!!! So you don't NEED everything listed in RavenGT's post . . . . however, if you want to continue dumping that high you better listen to him!!
Exactly! I have pretty much stock everything save for 4.10s and ET Streets and I dump it around 5K. I'm pulling 1.77-1.79 60s fairly consistent. If I did all the stuff they had, hopefully I'd see some 1.6x.

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he means dumping the clutch at 5,000 RPM's or higher..

i don't think it can be done.. and not sure why you want to, just feather the clutch out.. you will get a much better launch that way then spending the money trying to get that high of a dump.. just my $.02
OH MY GOD MAN are you just plain stupid? Or are ou scared if you launch hard it may knock that body kit off, or the taillight covers ? By dumping you will get a much better 60' which equals better ET. Lets see you feather to a 1.5 60'

To do some good 5000rpm dumps you will need a good tranny, good clutch, a good rear end setup(spool, 31 spline axles), weld torq boxes, subframe connectors, and you should be good for awhile anyways

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Yellowman98,

I dont understand what you mean by side-step? I always thought that when others talked about dumping or launching at 5k rpm they meant that the engaged the clutch all at once when the rpms were up at the desired level. SOrt of what I would call popping the clutch from a standstill with RPMS way up. It was the only way to make some cars (very low hp/tq) peel off when I was young - by popping the clutch. Please explain if I dont really understand. Thanks.
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dumping, side-stepping,and popping is all pretty much the same thing. the only way anyone would want to "feather" the clutch out is if you have street tires or some really bad drag radials. slicks, like everyone else said, don't even think about it. not only will you burn your clutch but you'll bog down so bad you'll hardly move! and guys, give the guy a break.... then again, he does seem a little ignorant for the subject at hand.
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Yellowman98,

I dont understand what you mean by side-step? I always thought that when others talked about dumping or launching at 5k rpm they meant that the engaged the clutch all at once when the rpms were up at the desired level. SOrt of what I would call popping the clutch from a standstill with RPMS way up. It was the only way to make some cars (very low hp/tq) peel off when I was young - by popping the clutch. Please explain if I dont really understand. Thanks.
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I just always 'side-step' instead of backing my foot off quickly. That way I'm SURE my foot doesn't slow the clutch engagement. As davescobra said, it's really all the same end result.

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And this wealth of knowledge above comes from the fact that you have a Razzi Body kit on your car, and you list O2 extenders as a modification???

Don't answer a question with unsubstantiated quesses, when there is an answer available, by people who have done it for years.

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i was simply asking why he would want to?! and i said it was only my $.02 sorry if your "knowledge" is too much for me to handle, i TRY to help people out by learning from others.. not to get smart ass remarks.. i know you have a fast car and that is good i praise you for that.. but people come here to learn about stuff, just trying to answer his question (and the 02extenders aren't listed as "mods" they are listed as stuff i have done)
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he means dumping the clutch at 5,000 RPM's or higher..

i don't think it can be done.. and not sure why you want to, just feather the clutch out.. you will get a much better launch that way then spending the money trying to get that high of a dump.. just my $.02
Fact: It can be done. Smartass Remark: Been there, done that!

And for your remaining penny of the .02 equation...

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i know you have a fast car and that is good i praise you for that...
My car is slow, but I accept all praise from all people!

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but people come here to learn about stuff, just trying to answer his question (and the 02extenders aren't listed as "mods" they are listed as stuff i have done)
We all are here to learn stuff, and we all get our share of razzi's, err I mean razzing. And the reason people have 112-line signatures, is because of stupid stuff like that. Maybe we should all start adding what soap and hand wax we clean our cars with, since that falls under the "stuff I have done" category.

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alright.. well this could have been handled like adults.. but since you STILL want to flame me.. you go ahead and be as fast as you want.. reality is: my car will always look better than yours.. so your fast.. my car looks good.. point made.. no reason to argue about this anymore. i'm done
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I don't know Joe's car is a very good looking car. Almost sounds like you are going for a rice look wit dem DUBS and all. I bet you have LED winsheild washer dispensers don't you

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alright.. well this could have been handled like adults.. but since you STILL want to flame me.. you go ahead and be as fast as you want.. reality is: my car will always look better than yours.. so your fast.. my car looks good.. point made.. no reason to argue about this anymore. i'm done
For starters adults would have made comments based on fact not on what you think someone should be doing. It's pretty obvious that he was talking about drag racing the car and in drag racing for the best ET's you dump the clutch or launch from a trans brake. Either way you don't have experience in either of these based on your uniformed comments. I sure won't jump into a post about installing razzi ground effects since I've never used them and sure wouldn't tell people the best way to do it without first hand knowledge or at least a good idea of what I was talking about.

Now as for your comment about Joe's car you'll find it's one the cleanest GT's out there. Your reality is that your car looks better, good for you but not everyone thinks ground effects make the car. I think over done ground effects, tail lights, etc.. are overkill for a performance car. It's your opinion that yours looks better but I can pretty much guarentee you that a good amount of people on this board would agree that Joe's is a top notch ride.

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Well, looks are an opinion and it's good you love your car. Personally, I'll take Joe or Bill's cars over body kits any day. They both look nassssstttyy, and very functional!

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I like the dude laughing at him for his listed car modifications that had this in his sig "Cobra floor mats (worth 10 horsepower)" Geez.... Why you all have to pick on people that actually tell you what we have done to our cars?

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alright.. well this could have been handled like adults.. but since you STILL want to flame me.. you go ahead and be as fast as you want.. reality is: my car will always look better than yours.. so your fast.. my car looks good.. point made.. no reason to argue about this anymore. i'm done

How do you know what my car looks like? All you'll ever see is the ass-end of one nasty black coupe!

go play with your Razzi kit, and stay out of our childish discussions.
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I can only imagine what a rush a 1.3x or lower 60' time is like, because the low 1.6's feel great

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you go ahead and be as fast as you want.. reality is: my car will always look better than yours.. so your fast.. my car looks good.. point made.. no reason to argue about this anymore. i'm done
Going fast IS looking good. 'Nuff said.

By the way, 5000rpm dumps are weak. I dump mine off the rev limiter - 7000rpm. Thank you and have a nice day.

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