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Shorty headers worth it for SC car?

I'm thinking of adding headers to my car. I want shorties for e-check time. I'm at 404rwhp now...would the hp gain be worth the money? Also, what kind of weight savings would I get over the factory manifolds.

While I'm on the subject of weight, what are some COST EFFECTIVE and reasonable ways to shave weight? I know about spare tire, rear seat (but at the price of traction.) Some good ways to shave weight off the nose would be great.

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Re: Shorty headers worth it for SC car?

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I'm thinking of adding headers to my car. I want shorties for e-check time. I'm at 404rwhp now...would the hp gain be worth the money? Also, what kind of weight savings would I get over the factory manifolds.

While I'm on the subject of weight, what are some COST EFFECTIVE and reasonable ways to shave weight? I know about spare tire, rear seat (but at the price of traction.) Some good ways to shave weight off the nose would be great.
I think the shorties are worth it but that is my opinion. Obviously LT's will net more hp but then you'll have to deal with swapping things when it comes to sniffer time. I have no idea what kind of gains you'll get.....

As far as removing weight off the front here are a few things you can do:


1. Remove front sway bar
2. Swap to tubular k member

Hope that helps.

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I have JBA shorties on mine..They seem to be flowing good for me..

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I have heard from a number of people that shorty headers don't do much on the 99 and up GTs. A friend of mine who does a lot a tuning on Mustangs says that long tubes allow you to add more timing at the top end but not much more then that. I am in the same position you are... wondering if the cost is worth it???

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I have JBA shorties on mine..They seem to be flowing good for me..

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Good lord...what do you have powering that beast? Are those numbers on pump gas?
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Do it!

Definately go with new headers. You have boost and I think you'd gain ~15 HP with shortys and even more with long tubes. I recommend ceramic coated headers. When I had mine replaced, one of the stock headers was heavier than both of the new ones.

Shortys are easier to install. They hood right up with the heads and any aftermarket or stock exhaust system.
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Dynoed my Vobra at 468rwhp.

Added shorties and a powerpipe at the same time and dynoed at 485rwhp. Torque also went up, from 399 to 411.

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Definately go with new headers. You have boost and I think you'd gain ~15 HP with shortys and even more with long tubes. I recommend ceramic coated headers. When I had mine replaced, one of the stock headers was heavier than both of the new ones.

Shortys are easier to install. They hood right up with the heads and any aftermarket or stock exhaust system.
Shorties are easier than long tubes but don't mistake that for being easy at any level. It is a 6-hour+ job and I already had a tube K-member.
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Re: Shorty headers worth it for SC car?

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I'm thinking of adding headers to my car. I want shorties for e-check time. I'm at 404rwhp now...would the hp gain be worth the money? Also, what kind of weight savings would I get over the factory manifolds.

While I'm on the subject of weight, what are some COST EFFECTIVE and reasonable ways to shave weight? I know about spare tire, rear seat (but at the price of traction.) Some good ways to shave weight off the nose would be great.
Dude I have longtubes with a catted Bassani X pipe and I had no problems with emissions. I am sure shorties are good but I would go with longtubes! Later Ron

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Dude I have longtubes with a catted Bassani X pipe and I had no problems with emissions. I am sure shorties are good but I would go with longtubes! Later Ron
Really? I've never seen catted h or x pipes for longtudes. Cool. I really wanted to go Prochamber again if I got longtubes, but no cats obviously. That's just not an option. Who else sells a catted x-pipe. Bassini is $$$$$$ IMHO. Thanks.

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Really? I've never seen catted h or x pipes for longtudes. Cool. I really wanted to go Prochamber again if I got longtubes, but no cats obviously. That's just not an option. Who else sells a catted x-pipe. Bassini is $$$$$$ IMHO. Thanks.
I used the regular Bassani X pipe with cats as that is what I was running pre-longtubes. I had the pipe cut and welded to fit very nicely for $100. I couldn't have gotten an off road pipe for that and since I already had the Bassani that is the route I went. Not to mention as you know Ohio requires catted pipes. Longtubes should not effect your emissions at all. Honestly, my car has scored better on the BS emissions tests since I have added mods then when it was stock, and that includes adding a blower.LOL Later Ron

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Mac and BBK sell catted h-pipes for longtubes. BBk also sells an x-pipe for longtubes.
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Change to a tubular K-member, heard it takes off 20+ lbs in the front.

BBK Longtubes all the way. They do sell a catted H-pipe, at least in Summit Racing.

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Change to a tubular K-member, heard it takes off 20+ lbs in the front.

BBK Longtubes all the way. They do sell a catted H-pipe, at least in Summit Racing.
You're right, the stock k is 58 lbs and my AJE tubular is 24 lbs. Sorry goes out to the original poster..... I can't tell you what kind of times you'll get cause I haven't run the car since this install but thought I could contribute in some way

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You're right, the stock k is 58 lbs and my AJE tubular is 24 lbs. Sorry goes out to the original poster..... I can't tell you what kind of times you'll get cause I haven't run the car since this install but thought I could contribute in some way

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Tim, How did the tubular K effect ride quality? Thanks Ron

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