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how bad does it suck to drive your stangs in winter?

Well the subject lines says it all...

I live in Missouri, I'm thinking of selling the SHO so that I can put the money from that towards paying off the Cobra. If next winter is like this one was it wouldn't be a big deal at all! Just wondering...keep the SHO or put $2500 towards paying off the Cobra (guessing I could pull $2500 out of the SHO)

I'd get some tires like the BFG KDW-S

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Can't help you there...I got my beater before the snows came this year...This was a realatively tame winter here in MO if you ask me...they definately get worse...

I've heard those KDWS BFG's are real good in the snow...too bad there's usually more ice here than snow though


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I don't get it. I drive my Cobra all year around, often with the top off. In the winter, sometimes I turn the heater on.
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Gotta love southern CA eh?

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Doesn't suck at all since it rarely gets below 50 here.

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okay all you southern climate people... rub it in alittle more

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It sucks!

I bought a beater just because the first winter in my stang sucked so much. I would keep the SHO. Or you could sell it, pay off the Cobra, and buy a beater for $500 once winter rolls around.


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No problems here in south Texas

My buddy w/ an 00GT lives in Columbia, MO (@[email protected]) and doesn't complain. He has a beater he drives to school though, so I doubt he'd take the stang out on snow or ice.

I'm from Springfield, MO originally, IMHO it's more about how you drive it when dealing with slick streets. With all that horsepower, you can loose it on dry pavement if you don't know what you're doing - same skilz apply to wet/cold weather. I know people who could get a 4x4 stuck in 2 inches of snow...
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I have a set of 16" Yokohama snow tires on the '00 or '01 (???)16" stock GT wheels. I can go wherever, whenever. You just have to have some respect for the torque...it's no front wheel drive. Wash it when you get the chance and keep it waxed. No problems.
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sucks reallllllly bad.. havent tried snow tires yet but will next year, but the stang is all worth it

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sucks reallllllly bad.. havent tried snow tires yet but will next year, but the stang is all worth it
I'm trying to get rid of a set of 16" black steel wheels that my snow tires were on for the past two years. If you're interested, drop me a PM.
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Mustangs and winter just suck when put together. I tried to make it work with my Cobra--all season tires, 100 lbs of salt in the truck. After two winters, I had enough. So when my wife said, "Gee, the Cobra is getting up there in mileage, maybe we should get you another car for the winter and daily driving" my eyes just lit up. I jumped on the chance to put the Cobra up this winter and now have a 96 Stratus to drive from A to B and slosh through the Chicago winters with.

I thought at first, Oh I'll just deal with it, but in the long run, if you are too worried about salt and snow and ice and corrosion, get a beater for your day to day stuff. If nothing else, it reminds you how much fun it is to have the Stang/Cobra when you break it out in good weather.
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Re: how bad does it suck to drive your stangs in winter?

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Well the subject lines says it all...

I live in Missouri, I'm thinking of selling the SHO so that I can put the money from that towards paying off the Cobra. If next winter is like this one was it wouldn't be a big deal at all! Just wondering...keep the SHO or put $2500 towards paying off the Cobra (guessing I could pull $2500 out of the SHO)

I'd get some tires like the BFG KDW-S

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I live in Indy and drive my '00 gt everyday. Buy some Blizzak tires and leave traction control on, take off in 2nd if you slip, no problem!!!
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I actually drove my Cobra through 4 inches of snow on a couple of occasions and over sheet ice, with the stock tires, and didn't have much of a problem. Things to remember:

Go slow
Don't speed up more than you know you can slow down
Don't expect to be able to avoid obstacles
Don't expect to be able to commute drive

I only drove in these conditions because I *had* to, not because I thought it was a good idea.
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This MO winter was pretty tame but, in the winter of 2000-2001 I had to drive my mustang to work in st.charles county. Actually it wasn't that bad. They had plowed the roads earlier but of course more falls, and the snow drifts on those county rodes were the worst part(ok actually going up the drive way was, I spun em going all the way up, took like 2 minutes). I've taken it on almost 2 inches before. My car was stock ride height and I was running Dunlop SP5000's. If you use common sense and lift when you start to hydoplane, drive slow, and try not to go up hills, you should be ok.

A trick that I learned is turning the radio off and listening to the exhaust to tell if I had traction or not, and to pick up just a little speed and coast through heavy patches of snow, and snow drifts so you won't have to use the pedal driving through them.

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I drove mine all winter this year in Missouri. I think I had one day that I was really concerned with driving any car let alone my GT. We made it though even plowing on the back roads of Imperial where I live. I wouldn't recommend it. Repairs can get to be a pain if you do jump off the track. I recommend getting a wife with a Jeep Charokee 4X4 like Me!
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Thumbs up Winter Driving

I live in St. Louis and I bought a set of Blizzak tires for winter. We did not have much snow but the little we did have they were great. There was also a big improvement when driving in the rain.
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The best mod you could ever buy is a winter beater.
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I did exactly what Custom2kGT said....Blizzaks.....traction control...2nd gear. No problems.

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another from Austin, TX and i have to agree...no problems during winter..besides..if i did..i'd just go get my dads 95 escort..
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Another Vote for Blizzaks. They make the car half way decent in the snow. Took a mid winter vacation in Maine a few years back. Drove up from MD thru lots of snow. Just take it easy on the starts. Without snows, the car is a hockey puck.
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Doesn't suck at all since it rarely gets below 50 here
He He...Winter is something we see on a postcard from one of our relatives up "North" at X-mas.

Sorry I had to rub it in one more time.
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I don't get it. I drive my Cobra all year around, often with the top off. In the winter, sometimes I turn the heater on.
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I live in Chicago. Home of cold, wind, snow. <I was bored so I wrote a small novel>

To answer your question. Depends. I had a 79 Mustang as my first car and I drove it for 3 years in some of the worst snow. <Talk about an education for first time driver, I was 17 at the time. Remember the Blizzard of '79?> It did ok as long as I had about 100 lbs of weight in the rear. It was a blast to able to drive sideways all the way down the block but in a straight line. Scared my passengers to death. That mustang faired better in the snow because of its small tires and narrow rims.

When I had my 96 GT Auto, I drove it 3 years through the winters. It had 17 inch rims and my top speed with snow on the ground was a whopping 20 MPH if I was lucky. Turning a simple corner was a adventure in itself. Turn the wheel to much and your going straight if you want to or not. I avoided the highways like the plague when the snow was sticking to the ground.

Now that I have my 99 GT also a Auto with traction control, 17" rims. I drove through one winter with it. After that winter in '99 I said never again in the snow. 15 MPH on side streets trying to make it home in a snow storm was final draw. I almost wrecked the car in the morning turning into the parking lot at work. Wheel turned, car went straight towards a Steel pole that seperated the driveways. Luckly the car bounced gently off the curb enough to turn me out of the way in time. Now that the car is modified I don't even dare drive it if theres even threat of rain. To much horsepower and no traction in bad conditions.

I solved the snow/rain problem with a 97 Jeep Wrangler Sahara. I bought it used, but in great condition. I actually enjoy the snowy days now. Just pull up on the handle and 4 wheel drive engages.

If your have to brave the snow. I recomend the following.

Narrow tires, 16 inch rim. Don't drive a wide tire in the snow your asking for very little traction. Slap some snow tires on those rims and you can swap out to your nice rims come spring.

Weight is your friend. Full tank of Gas and about 100lbs or more in trunk. Couple bags of rock salt work great and can get you out if you get stuck.

Drive slow, very slow, but go fast enough that you don't get stuck in the ruts in the intersection or in the deep stuff. A normal drive time of 30 minutes turned into a good 1 to 1 1/2 to get home when the snow was flying. Plan on allowing your car a couple years to stop. 17" rims make for great skis! Plan your turns carefully. To much gas and your going to be facing the direction you just came from. Turn to sharp and suddenly, your going to go straight if you want to or not.

Keep a cell Phone with you that is charged. Its great for when you need that friend, or tow truck to get you out of the ditch that you just slid into.
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it snows here like every couple years. it gets somewhat cold in the winter though. ive lived here since 95 and have seen two snows. no snow means they dont use any salt. cars that have been here since new have zero rust. but i grew up in cental illinois so i know how to drive on it if i have to

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If you do decide to drive your snake in the winter, spend the $500 and get some rims and snow tires. I went through some serious stuff this winter and did very well. I have driven rear wheel drive cars my whole life, and I would have to say that the Stang' has done the best. Not the greatest traction taking off, but the car stops great which is more important. Cannot emphazise how good it did stopping. I was really impressed, and it saved my butt a couple times. I got my car washed 3 times a week at times, but at least once religously. The only bad part about winter driving is the fact that it trashes your interior. They use a lot of sand up here and it is everywhere! Engine compartment, interior, trunk you name it. Ideally, get a winter beater, but if you love driving your car, just do it. There are very few days when the roads are covered, and just keep an eye out for the icy spots.
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I drove my car home from the mountains during a blizzard when it was a week old. Those gatorbacks are surprisingly good snow tires. The traction control helps too. Oh yeah, some weight in the trunk is absolutely necessary. I had to stop at a home depot and
pick up an 80 lb bag of sand so I could get home...
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Keep the SHO. You'll regret selling it when the snow comes. Cobras are poor performers in snow and ice.
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If you have a beater, keep it; if you can't afford 2 cars and the insurance and registration, then drive the Cobra year round. I have 235/45 Pirelli Ice Asymetrical tires on all four corners on the stock rims. I place anywhere from 100 to 200 pounds of sand and small pebbles in the trunk for traction depending on the amount of snow on the roads. So far I have driven in 4-6" going up and down short steep hills in Pennsylvania and the occasional incline in Minnesota. It is very possible to do this, just keep it steady without doing anything sudden (accelerating, braking, turning.) You will have to undercoat your car and at least biweekly spray fresh water underneath to get all the salt off, otherwise you would be lucky to have the car for more than 7-8 years tops before pieces start falling off.
It is very possible to drive in the snow and ice, just prepare and do it sensibly.

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Mustangs won't even move in ice and snow on flat pavement.

Don't do it.

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I have to drive my car in the winter over here and its not too bad.... but let me tell you it's enoughf to make me want to sell it and go buy a truck next winter...

Don't do it...

Think about salt
then salt all over your underbody
then you park you car at night and the salt eats away at everything on your underbody....

If that does not scare you then be my guest .... LOL....
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..I'm in NJ, and this was the first winter with my '00. We really didn't have much snow..but i'll tell ya that my car drives tons better than my 92 did. the Traction control works pretty well..or...it may have been that i had my mother-in-law in the backseat providing some extra pounds on the rear axle
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not even the 1st oil change

Got my new mustang in oct 01' and this january wrecked it on ice at 30mph. Only had 4,000 mi on it and not even had it's first oil change. Indiana winters suck, you bet your ass i am getting a 4x4 for winter. If you have to drive in the snow don't plan on getting there too fast and too easily. Get yourselves some winter cars......
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