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post #1 of 21 Old 04-25-2002, 09:03 AM Thread Starter
 
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Unhappy '96 2V Intake - stupid questions

Hmm, as you may know from my previous posts I'm looking at buying a '96 GT with 24k miles. Now I've read up on the intake cracking issue and I'm a bit concerned. All Mustangs here are private imports so Ford will not even look at them, which means that I'll have to check with the dealership (Exotic specialists, nice to see a Mustang sharing the floor with Lamborghinis, Ferraris and Porsches but not overly knowledgable on the Mustang) and/or do it myself.

What I want to know is:

1. Can you tell by looking at it whether it has been changed or not?

2. Can I just buy the '99 intake and replace it?

I understand I can go the PI heads route but for a few months I'm going to keep it stock, at least as much as it is stock now. I'm just worried about getting stuck somewhere with a bloody cracked intake.

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1.) There is no way to tell except by having the dealer pull the repair history of the car from the VIN.

2.) The 99+ intake does not fit the 96-98 heads.

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On # 2 - If I order a new 96-98 OE intake will it cure the issues?

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Ford has brought out a new intake with an aluminium section for the coolant cross over which should solve this problem. It is a direct bolt on and is not a dificult job with normal hand tools should only take a couple of hours to change when needed.

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Thanks, Dwayne. Any idea of part number and on-line store where I can find it? As I said Ford South Africa won't even look at the car.

Or even better, somewhere I can get it in the UK as I'm scheduled to go over in June.

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Just get an SVO roots blower and it replaces that crappy plastic intake.
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How many kms on the car Dutchie?

If it is a high km car in the heat of SA, I would say it's a better than even money bet that it has already been changed.

Have a close look at the intake, if there are little metal screw holes on a raised platform beside every injector, it may well be a new intake, I'm pretty sure my intake did not have those ( what I think are coil-on-plug mounting holes ) before my intake blew.

It's a shame to change the intake to the new hybrid one for the '96/98 now only to change it again in a few months when you do a headswap. But if you want to not get stranded I guess I can see it.

Try PM'ing Randy Stinchcomb at: https://www.corral.net/forums/private...age&userid=987
I bet he can hook you up with the intake.

They don't sell Fords in South Africa?
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Glenn, thanks I'll have a look, I'm hoping that it's been replaced already.
38 400 km on the clock.

They sell Fords but no Mustangs - we have the Euro Focus, Fiesta and Mondeo, the Aussie Falcon and a pickup called a Ranger. Legacy from the bad old days and sanctions, I guess. Anyway, Ford here treats Mustangs as grey imports and won't touch them or stock parts for them.

There are a few places who specialise in American cars with claimed weekly shipments from the 'States but I reckon they charge a bit more than necessary - the old supply and demand thing.

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The bullit calipers I just bought have MADE IN AUSTRALIA stamped on the box. I have no idea what shipping to SA from north america costs, but the world is supposedly becoming a smaller place.

I can see your Ford dealer not wanting to stock it, or even not wanting to warantee it, but I bet if you find a co-operative Parts Manager at a Ford dealership there is no reason why he could not get parts that you order, would even be a bonus for him if you could give him parts numbers, maybe he can get them , but has no easy way to look them up? Who knows?
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http://www.gefracing.com/Merchant2/m...gory_Code=FIEP

Dutchie, here is the link to the new manifold. it is $200 + shipping. Ordering with a cc and shipping through the post office should not cost too much. I would stay away from fedx and ups because the price they charge is normally higher than the PO.

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Thanks Dwayne, appreciate it.

Glenn, I will phone a few Ford dealers today - anyone have the part number handy?


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I remember the same thing as Niagraglenn said. Before the new intake, no screw inserts by the plugs. It does look like they are for coil on plug. My intake cracked after I jacked the motor up and forgot to take out the strut tower brace. I thinking why is this motor not going up more and the whole car is. So the intake was taking the weight of the car (or some of it). It had like 95,000miles on it then. After I finished putting the headers on, the intake cracked the next day. Somehow I think holding the weight of the car had something to do with it. Ford replaced the intake under the cracked intake program (fortunately the crack occured in the correct spot).
So check for those mounting screws and you will know. Also, check Randy Stinchcomb above for a manifold. His prices are great and he will know all the options. Cool to have a Stang in S. Africa!
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Don't even bother trying to order through your local dealer. Just order on line shipping is not that much for most things and you will save money because the dealer will not be marking up the price on you.

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The only reason I mentioned going to a local dealer is because I like to check out all my options, I have no idea how things work in SA, whether there are any import restrictions, duties, how bad shipping costs are. I like to investigate, then purchase. If Dutchie can get the part number, price from a great dealer like Randy then he can try to compare, if the local dealer is out to lunch, he can have it shipped, if it's close to the shipped cost, he can save himself some hassles possibly.

Dutchie, where do you live in SA?
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Glenn,

Sounds like I got your back up. Sorry about that, it was not my intention.

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Sorry Dwayne!

People have been saying that to me lately for some reason.
I must be getting touchy in my old age

I bet a supercharged 4.6 Stang in the UK must be pretty rare, huh?
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There are quite a few Stangs here check out www.ukstreetracers.com I am bigmotorhead in the mustang section. my times are horrible due to no traction. I am fixing that with a pair of 15x10 welds and ET Streets. There aren't many SC Stangs but there are plenty of stangs faster than me here . hopefully I will change that soon. my local track is www.santapod.com the traction there is no good most people say their car ran a full second faster on stateside tracks.

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Glenn, I live in Johannesburg.

The local Ford dealer is still getting back to me.

Duties are not too bad but shipping costs tends to be high as the postal service sucks, so unless you Fedex or UPS things in it takes around 5 weeks.

Slightly off topic - I was looking around for rims today ( It has some cheap and nasty TSW rims on at the moment and part of the deal is that the dealer replaces them with rims of my choice) and I can't believe that I can not find any. It seems that the offset is the problem as the PCD at least is common to the Camry and Lexus. Can anyone verify that the offset is ( + 24mm) 0.944" ?

Thanks chaps
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I have relatives in the Cape Town area. I hope to see it some day, my parents say it is very nice there.

I hope your local dealer gets real & decides to sell you parts at an decent price.

I just put on '98 Cobra wheels (17x8), Ford is selling them as a regular dealer available part, in a kit with centre caps & nuts, part number 1R3Z-1007-AB, they also sell Bullitt wheels the same way.
I got mine for $225CDN = $144USD = 1525ZAR per wheel kit.

Most late model mustang wheels have a +24mm offset, but it seems like on the wider wheels the offset is more. What kind of wheel are you looking for?
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Yup, Cape Town is a nice place. I would not want to live there though, Capetonians tend to be too relaxed

I'm not particular about the wheels - I just don't like the ones that's on at the moment. I do like the look of the Bullit wheels. Thanks for those part numbers - I'm going to ask the dealer about those as well.

Yikes we have another petrol price hike tomorrow - going up to ZAR 4.43 / l ( around US$ 1.58 per gallon if I did my math right). Well, I should not complain I guess - company petrol card What do you guys pay for fuel?

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Too relaxed? No such thing!

We pay about .66/L or about 4.50ZAR/Litre.

If your dealer can't find the part number for the Bullit wheel kit, I can get it for you.
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