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Popeye 05-30-2019 12:43 PM

Fox body side mirror upgrade
 
So now that my car is back up on the road again I was reminded of how horrible the side mirrors are. The passenger side in particular has such a blind spot an 18 wheeler could fit in it. I did some searching but didnt find much. Has anyone retro fitted some modern side mirrors on a fox body. I was thinking of using some S197 mirrors as a starting point and fab up a mount.

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thadude 05-30-2019 06:02 PM


Mustang5L5 05-30-2019 06:55 PM

I agree they suck. I just accept that I need to do a full body turn around when I change lanes. At least I was able to upgrade the rear view mirror to a powered larger modern one which made a slight difference

Popeye 05-30-2019 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by thadude (Post 18560828)

That seems to be fairly obvious to simply adjust out the mirrors. But damn I'm really used to a modern mirror that has a larger field of vision.

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thadude 05-31-2019 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Popeye (Post 18560862)
That seems to be fairly obvious to simply adjust out the mirrors. But damn I'm really used to a modern mirror that has a larger field of vision.

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Embrace the 90ís dude ;)


These foxes are just not good daily drivers once youíve had a taste of the future, the 20 year ago future that is lol. A bigger mirror would look silly imo, itís simply is what it is although itís better than a 70ís Japanese car with wing mirrors I guess[emoji482]

Popeye 05-31-2019 12:53 AM

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Originally Posted by thadude (Post 18560926)
Embrace the 90ís dude ;)


These foxes are just not good daily drivers once youíve had a taste of the future, the 20 year ago future that is lol. A bigger mirror would look silly imo, itís simply is what it is although itís better than a 70ís Japanese car with wing mirrors I guess[emoji482]

Well... backup that 90s quote a bit it's a 79. So it's a 40 yo car.

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Popeye 05-31-2019 12:55 AM

That mirror is so friggen small....https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4b7f595faf.jpg

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thadude 05-31-2019 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Popeye (Post 18560928)
Well... backup that 90s quote a bit it's a 79. So it's a 40 yo car.

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Dagnabit! Agree 100% and the dudes that designed it were probably trained by the folks from the 60ís or 50ís

Cheers

Popeye 05-31-2019 03:16 AM

I'll pick up these S197 mirrors and trim up the mounting side and see how they look. They are cheap enough that I'll experiment. Paint them the flat black and see if I can live with the look. If it works on the cheap ones these after market mirrors have a retro look and would match the car much better. But I'll cut up the cheap ones first.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...b67f62db56.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...d34e48bb03.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5aca132715.jpg

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Mustang5L5 05-31-2019 06:48 AM

Interested to see how that looks.


The fox mirrors are tiny, but not sure I could really swap them given the mirror profile is part of its iconic look.

I searched a bit for aftermarket mirrors specific for the fox and found none. I could have sworn there was an m3 style mirror at one point in the early 2000s

steel1 05-31-2019 07:09 AM

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...SR500,500_.jpg
These should do the trick....sorry just being an A-hole.

4eyefever 05-31-2019 07:24 AM

For about the same money as new mirrors,I would look at some type of an aftermarket blind spot monitoring system.Very unobtrusive while keeping the stock mirrors.
https://www.tadibrothers.com/products/blind-spot-system

Good luck

Popeye 05-31-2019 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by steel1 (Post 18560962)
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/...SR500,500_.jpg

These should do the trick....sorry just being an A-hole.

Man.. I wish you posted a link. Now I'll have to Google those.

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Popeye 05-31-2019 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mustang5L5 (Post 18560960)
Interested to see how that looks.


The fox mirrors are tiny, but not sure I could really swap them given the mirror profile is part of its iconic look.

I searched a bit for aftermarket mirrors specific for the fox and found none. I could have sworn there was an m3 style mirror at one point in the early 2000s

I always did like how the conv mirrors looked. I don't think the S197 mirrors will look much differenthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...872948d147.jpg

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Blown85GT 05-31-2019 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Popeye (Post 18560982)
I always did like how the conv mirrors looked. I don't think the S197 mirrors will look much differenthttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...872948d147.jpg

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I know that's how the convert mirrors are, but for some reason that looks photoshopped.

Popeye 05-31-2019 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Blown85GT (Post 18561040)
I know that's how the convert mirrors are, but for some reason that looks photoshopped.

Maybe because it's such a filtered photo?

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5150 05-31-2019 02:46 PM

I added a stick-on fisheye mirror on the drivers side mirror on my 92. About 2 inch diameter, in the lower left corner. Gave just enough to see when there was something in that massive blindspot.


Similar to this but like $2 at wallyworld back in the day.

https://www.amazon.com/CIPA-49102-Ho.../dp/B00029WT08

turboLXstang 05-31-2019 02:54 PM

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Iíve been thinking about this lately, curious to see how it turns out, I swapped a 2017 steering wheel into my car and it makes such a substantial difference to how it feels driving the car, anything is possible with a little creativity...

Popeye 05-31-2019 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by turboLXstang (Post 18561068)
Iíve been thinking about this lately, curious to see how it turns out, I swapped a 2017 steering wheel into my car and it makes such a substantial difference to how it feels driving the car, anything is possible with a little creativity...

Wow. That looks like it belongs there. Did you get any of the buttons functioning?

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Popeye 05-31-2019 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 5150 (Post 18561062)
I added a stick-on fisheye mirror on the drivers side mirror on my 92. About 2 inch diameter, in the lower left corner. Gave just enough to see when there was something in that massive blindspot.





Similar to this but like $2 at wallyworld back in the day.



https://www.amazon.com/CIPA-49102-Ho.../dp/B00029WT08

On my first long drive of the car last weekend.. that massive blind spot scared the crap out of me as I almost wiped the car out on its first outing.
It got me immediately thinking about improving the rear view.

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Jack Hidley 05-31-2019 03:49 PM

I think that some people in this thread just don't know how to properly adjust their mirrors. The C&D article linked above is and has always been the only correct way to adjust them.

On my first Fox Mustang, I removed the right side mirror and had the glass replaced with a flat piece of glass that had "Objects in the mirror are as they appear" etched on it. I hate wide angle mirrors. They deform the world so that you can't trust anything that you see in them.

Popeye 05-31-2019 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Hidley (Post 18561090)
I think that some people in this thread just don't know how to properly adjust their mirrors. The C&D article linked above is and has always been the only correct way to adjust them.



On my first Fox Mustang, I removed the right side mirror and had the glass replaced with a flat piece of glass that had "Objects in the mirror are as they appear" etched on it. I hate wide angle mirrors. They deform the world so that you can't trust anything that you see in them.

You're right. After 30 some odd years of driving I still struggle with the nuances of adjusting a mirror. Maybe one day I'll get it.

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thadude 06-01-2019 01:39 AM

Fox body side mirror upgrade
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Popeye (Post 18561092)
You're right. After 30 some odd years of driving I still struggle with the nuances of adjusting a mirror. Maybe one day I'll get it.

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Read the article then go get in your car and adjust the mirrors exactly as it says and enjoy

edit: because they are not adjusted correctly if you are making this thread ;)

gotmyphilosophy 06-06-2019 12:27 PM

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My '79 I had back in the day only came with a driver's door mirror - no passenger mirror! I ended up removing the rear view mirrow and visors and put a wink mirror in mounted to the visor holes. I could see EVERYTHING. (the picture still has the rear view mirror installed)

Mustang5L5 06-06-2019 03:44 PM

I adjusted per the C&D article. On the daily driver, didn't make much of a difference since the mirror is so large (as well as incorporating a wide angle mirror in the top half) that it's easy to see what's next to you without straining so the change didn't really do much for me on that car.

Not enough seat time in the fox to give an opinion. I will say it does take a little getting used to with the mirror pointed to the blind spot and not at the rear of the car.

Popeye 06-06-2019 07:02 PM

I have a pair of mirrors on the way. Will be a fun project to see how they look. $31 delivered for two 07 S197 mirrors.

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Popeye 06-12-2019 10:45 PM

So I have the mirrors and I'm giving it a go to see how they look. There is a lit to trim down but I think the proportions will be decent.
I have to cut off the mounting pad of the new mirror. By pulling on it slightly I was able to use a pull saw to breeze through the plastic webbing.
I then trimmed blackball the outer plastic and got to just the extension part.

Input a couple of pilot holes in the inner plastic and made a quick backer so I could mock it up.

Its night time so its tough to see how it really looks but it's not too bad. It will be easy to make some trim pieces so it will mount flush and look like it belongs there.

Its gonna rain all day tomorrow so I wont get to do a whole lot. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...2efe1637db.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...aa40759ad4.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...315855c28f.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...f16333b4ad.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...5b97967ae8.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...afdaf32f22.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...8971f29097.jpg

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thadude 06-12-2019 11:37 PM

Night time donuts are the best ;)

Popeye 06-13-2019 05:45 AM

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Night time donuts are the best ;)

Hah..... took me a while to get that... fixed.

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Popeye 06-13-2019 10:01 AM


Popeye 06-13-2019 10:16 AM

It sits atop the door mouldings nicely and even matches the curve of it. I will trim the forward part of the mirror to get it closer to the A pillar. So far I'm pretty happy with the result.

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