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Looking to tune my own setup, what setup do you recommend that is user friendly and easy learning curve?

I'm tired of paying an arm and a leg to have my car dyno tuned. I want to tune it myself. I currently have a sct flip chip. What setup would you recommend that is user friendly and doesn't require a Ph.D. to operate?

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What year Mustang is this for, and what engine?


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im running a 408 in my 93 stang and use the PRO-M system, its pricey but its also very good, comes with all new wiring harness its a good system with a lot of adjustable parameters and the support is top notch I don't use coil on set up buts its available from them. There support is top notch just search here for pro-m there's videos and lots of discussion on it
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same here.. cop, oem like harness and oem based ecu

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also a pro-m user but with a distributor. car never ran better

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Holley HP or Dominator EFI depending on features you need. The software is one of the easiest to operate, and you can find support on nearly every major forum.
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So a lot of you guys are running Pro M. I don't want to have to run individual coils or crank trigger. I just want a plug n play unit easy to learn. Is Pro M like that? How much do they go for? I'm just running a 410"w with 250 shot with a c4 so I want to be able to tune for that.
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I watched the Pro-M efi videos and WOW that's definitely want to go with it.

So I can sell my MSD digital 6 box right? What about my HVCII coil. Is that alright to keep?

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I watched the Pro-M efi videos and WOW that's definitely want to go with it.

So I can sell my MSD digital 6 box right? What about my HVCII coil. Is that alright to keep?
keep the coil and the ignition box depends on boost and how much i would imagine. i have not tried running mine without the 6al. when the box finally goes i will

as far as your plug it in and go question goes that is how mine has been since day one. installed the harness, widebands, input the required data and literally have been enjoying the car since. same with the meth setup, just input the settings as directed and i added 1 more degree of timing instead of the defaults.

i have a thread somewhere that i plan on updating and posting a few videos.

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We have a setup that plugs directly into the factory wiring on these cars.

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Plug it in, run a vacuum line for the MAP sensor, and you'll need to set your injector and engine size in the tune, but after that, it's ready to fire up and start tuning.

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After more research I think Holley HP EFI is the setup for me. I really like what I've read and seen.
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ford your mild little setup your probably better off just sticking with the factory ecu, its more than capable of handling your setup and its much much cheaper faster and more reliable

buy yourself a quarterhorse from moates.net and drop in the a9l2 tune, significantly less work that swapping ecus and wiring and you should have a driveable car in minutes no problem

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you can go ahead and download the software and tune free from that link above and see if you like it
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Working in a deal for a Vortech V7 YSI. That would work better with Holley HP efi you think?
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The best thing I ever did with engine controls is the Holley HP. I'm running 25psi boost and never once did I have an issue once I got beyond Holley's ground loop problem.

The ground loop was an easy fix. I just grounded the EEC to the chassis right near where Ford did and where the block head ground is. Once I did that, and pulled the battery negative post EEC lead to the trunk battery, everything was fine. System is flawless.

I'm doing 1.3 60 ft times and running the Ford TFI dizzy with a CD ignition. I have a Bosch MAP/MAT sensor in the elbow, Ford TPS, and the rest came with the Holley kit.

I have the digital Dash.

It is an easy swap, and the best thing I ever did. I did a 20 mile street ride with no issues, and later in the day ran low fives with no changes.


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After more research I think Holley HP EFI is the setup for me. I really like what I've read and seen.

i have a ysi / pro-m / methanol. works flawless

nothing at all wrong with the holley and it was my other choice besides the pro-m. here is my worthless .02. if you go holley don't get the hp but the dominator. main reason i say that is you really want to run dual widebands and possibly the additional inputs


even with my old computer (aem ems) i ran dual widebands. i knew i had a weeping mls gasket from the datalogs well in advance before something catastrophic could have happened.

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Ur right, Dominator would be a better choice.
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Back in May 2015 you started this thread: What's the BEST user friendly tuning software for 93' mustang?
https://forums.corral.net/forums/engi...3-mustang.html

Now 6 months later you started this thread: Looking to tune my own setup, what setup do you recommend that is user friendly and easy learning curve? Did you not get the information you were looking for 6 months ago or did you forget?

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Michael Plummer...No I did not forget. U cyber stalking to know what I posted 6 months ago???
6 months ago my engine was together and I was looking for the ability to tune using my stock ECU, now I'm building a 427"w with YSI and I looking to ditch my stock ECU and its wiring while I clean up my engine bay. I also thought stand-alone efi systems cost a lot more than they do. Then upon reading and watching videos I learned about the self learning. That's when I decided to go Holley efi.

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Michael Plummer...No I did not forget. U cyber stalking to know what I posted 6 months ago???
Then upon reading and watching videos I learned about the self learning. That's when I decided to go Holley efi.
Like I posted in your other thread, I just remembered posting in a similar thread and I checked the threads I had posted in, that is all. Congrats on narrowing it down to the Holley. I have a few friends who run the Holley with great success, so I'm sure it will work great for you too.

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Thank you. I'm sure all the major brands are very similar. I first was going to go with Pro-M but guy I know has the Holley HP and was telling me about it and he knows that system inside and out and lives near by so that how I picked that one. He runs 8.60's on 93/meth and is a street car. So he define toy know what he is doing.

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Thank you. I'm sure all the major brands are very similar. I first was going to go with Pro-M but guy I know has the Holley HP and was telling me about it and he knows that system inside and out and lives near by so that how I picked that one. He runs 8.60's on 93/meth and is a street car. So he define toy know what he is doing.
Excellent choice. I have several customers up in your area that run HEFI. One of which many members here will know - Freezy finally got swapped over to it this year. Great success too!
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I chose the HEFI system. I've never tuned a thing before and I got my car started and driving with no problems. WOT was effortless to tune. Download the software and play with it first, you'll see how easy it is to navigate.

All of this was without a base tune (guy I bought it from never provided one, even though he said he would). For support, look at the holley forums.

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Thank you. I'm sure all the major brands are very similar. I first was going to go with Pro-M but guy I know has the Holley HP and was telling me about it and he knows that system inside and out and lives near by so that how I picked that one. He runs 8.60's on 93/meth and is a street car. So he define toy know what he is doing.
I run an MSPNP2 on my 410.

Do you want easy and cheap
or easy and best

and is installing part of the easy part you are looking for or do you just want easy to tune?

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Stinger performance pimp ecu. Uses stock 5.0 harness and sensors. Also connects via the factory ecu plug. Lots of options if you add nitrous or boost of any kind. 700$ and uses tuner studio software. Tech support from the developers and users is second to none and available 24/7. Great product and easy to install. Has an auto tune feature which works very well also.




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What is the Holley HP EFI part number that I will need?
Do I need to purchase any other wiring or components to work with my MSD billet distributor?
I'm looking to plug-n-play.
I removing my factory wiring harness since its 22 years old and I want to eliminate the chance of faulty wiring down the road. This way I can take my time and route Holley's wiring harness how I want it for a more appealing look under the hood.

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What is the Holley HP EFI part number that I will need?
Do I need to purchase any other wiring or components to work with my MSD billet distributor?
I'm looking to plug-n-play.
I removing my factory wiring harness since its 22 years old and I want to eliminate the chance of faulty wiring down the road. This way I can take my time and route Holley's wiring harness how I want it for a more appealing look under the hood.
SBF kit is 550-606 or 550-606N (N designates the NTK wideband O2 sensor)

If you have the billet TFI distributor you will need the 558-305 TFI ignition adapter. If you want to turn on an electric fan, or any other input/output you'll need the 558-400 I/O Harness.
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Excellent choice. I have several customers up in your area that run HEFI. One of which many members here will know - Freezy finally got swapped over to it this year. Great success too!
I would not be happier with how the system has performed. And having you as my Holley tech support has helped also. Thank you for getting me where I am today with this system...

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I would not be happier with how the system has performed. And having you as my Holley tech support has helped also. Thank you for getting me where I am today with this system...
You're welcome. Customers like you make my life easier.
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