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post #1 of 24 Old 06-23-2019, 02:01 PM Thread Starter
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Project 11s

First time to track with new motor. Didn’t drive well and ended up with a 13.081 @ 110.33 MPH on a 2.056 60 ft. Time split attached

My goal is 11.9XX

Full weight car and accessories around 3475 lbs with me in it and full tank of gas.
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Once my Nittos wear down I’m going to ET streets

Install a line lock.

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post #2 of 24 Old 06-23-2019, 02:24 PM
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Get some 15" slicks. If you have to have a radial you will need some way to slip to the clutch.

With a tire and power shifting you might be able to get your goal. Loosing some weight would help.

Mine is full weight and I don't plan on taking anything out of it. I have MT radials and a clutch tamer. My next tires will be slicks.


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What tire you recommend?

They were taking so Long between rounds today I didn’t get a chance for more runs
and I had to leave.

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Get some 15" slicks. If you have to have a radial you will need some way to slip to the clutch.

With a tire and power shifting you might be able to get your goal. Loosing some weight would help.

Mine is full weight and I don't plan on taking anything out of it. I have MT radials and a clutch tamer. My next tires will be slicks.

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I have never ran them but something along these lines will be my next set. Others can tell you what works for them and what didn't.

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Yup, agree on the bias ply.

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I have never ran them but something along these lines will be my next set. Others can tell you what works for them and what didn't.

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I run bias plys (275 60r15) vortech v2 at about 400ish at the wheels. Best I've cut is a 12.06. Could have hit the 11s but didnt have enough time at the track.

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2.0x 60' at epping and those tires isn't bad.. i'd get some more track time as your mph is very low for that kind of power
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Yup, I didn’t hit the 1-2 shift very well on that run.

I need to get to a street night so I can get multiple runs in.

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What tire you recommend?

They were taking so Long between rounds today I didnít get a chance for more runs
and I had to leave.
Hey I was there too. I was also doing run only and it was a loooong slow day. Was your car the red fox GT with cobra wheels? So many mustangs tough to remember who is who. If you ever see the red 68 Torino swing by. Its the only one ever there.

I tried radials with a stick many times and I suck at it. I went back to bias ply and have much more fun and consistency. At my power level I usually bog but finally getting to where I can get some wheels speed. With the bias ply pretty much hit it as hard as possible lol. I currently have Hoosier QTP 27 x 11.5 and went 1.69 Sunday. When these die I'm going to a 26 x 10.

A good set of upper and lower control arms would probably do you good too once you get a bias ply on there.

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What rear gear ratio and what is the 1st gear ration in the transmission? What gear/RPM did you cross the finish line? 110 MPH tells me you have enough HP to run 11s if you are going to optimize the combination for 1/4 mile duty. You are going to need to get the 60 foots down into the high 1.5x range to make 110 MPH produce an 11.99x time.


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Yup, that was mine.

Just way too Long to get runs in. I wasn’t going to hang out for another 2.5 hours to just get in another single run.

I need a line lock and the better tires.

I’ve got my stock turbines so I’ll put the bias plys on those for the strip.

My car has MM LCAs but stock everything else for suspension.

Definitely need more practice launching the car so having a goal will make it fun to work at it.


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What tire you recommend?

They were taking so Long between rounds today I didn’t get a chance for more runs
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Hey I was there too. I was also doing run only and it was a loooong slow day. Was your car the red fox GT with cobra wheels? So many mustangs tough to remember who is who. If you ever see the red 68 Torino swing by. Its the only one ever there.

I tried radials with a stick many times and I suck at it. I went back to bias ply and have much more fun and consistency. At my power level I usually bog but finally getting to where I can get some wheels speed. With the bias ply pretty much hit it as hard as possible lol. I currently have Hoosier QTP 27 x 11.5 and went 1.69 Sunday. When these die I'm going to a 26 x 10.

A good set of upper and lower control arms would probably do you good too once you get a bias ply on there.

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2.95 first gear and 3.73s

Suspension mods and tires are in the plans.

My driving sucks too so I need more practice.

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What rear gear ratio and what is the 1st gear ration in the transmission? What gear/RPM did you cross the finish line? 110 MPH tells me you have enough HP to run 11s if you are going to optimize the combination for 1/4 mile duty. You are going to need to get the 60 foots down into the high 1.5x range to make 110 MPH produce an 11.99x time.

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Yup, that was mine.

Just way too Long to get runs in. I wasnít going to hang out for another 2.5 hours to just get in another single run.

I need a line lock and the better tires.

Iíve got my stock turbines so Iíll put the bias plys on those for the strip.

My car has MM LCAs but stock everything else for suspension.

Definitely need more practice launching the car so having a goal will make it fun to work at it.
Yeah I only had 3 passes in by 3pm and got 3 more in by 6pm when it thinned out. Since you have the control arms all ready you should see a huge improvement launching on the bias plys over the radials.


You will be amazed how much quicker you get with just seat time. I've made almost 200 passes in my current car and I'm still figuring it out lol

One of my 12.2 passes from Sunday. I have a horrible habit of not power shifting 2nd. Eventually I'll get it. The DA was 2300, the correction factor to sea level puts it at 11.9. In the fall sometime we go -500' so I am also looking for an 11.99 once the weather cools back down.

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From what I hear you are less likely to brake an axel with bias plys, buy its a good idea to get aftermarket axels and c-clip eliminators. I broke a stock axel at the line in a car that only trapped 99 mph with drag radials.

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I’ve got 31 spline moser axles, diff, and TKO600.

Tires shocks and practice are what it will come down too.

Nitto 555Rs just can’t get enough grip.

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Youll see a night and day diff going from radials to a bias. i dont know what shocks you have but that would be on the list if your gearing it twords more track anyways. Did you ever air down your radials?

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I was running them at 19 pounds

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Youll see a night and day diff going from radials to a bias. i dont know what shocks you have but that would be on the list if your gearing it twords more track anyways. Did you ever air down your radials?

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Can you run radial tires in the front with no issues? I have heard people say that its not a good idea.
I really want to try bias ply on my car.

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I don’t see why not. I live about 10-15 min from the track so I don’t have to drive far.

Obviously I would not run bias ply other than at the track.

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Can you run radial tires in the front with no issues? I have heard people say that its not a good idea.
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I have a friend that will run the bias tires on the street. He claims they are fine. I normally don't run my track tires on the street because I don't want to wear them out or pick up a nail.

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Don't post on here much, but I will chime in. I picked up almost half a second in the 1/8th going from 555rs to biasply et streets. 110mph trap speed indicates that you are a low 12 second car, possibly, just maybe you can slip into the 11.9x, but keep trying, that's the fun of it.

My car is a 331, full interior, ac, and power steering, weighing about 3400 with me in it. Runs 11.7x at 117 naturally aspirated and went 10.86 at 121.xx on a 100 shot. Those were 1.59 and 1.48 60fts with those times too.

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Radials don't work well on stick cars. I tried radials on the car in my in my sig to match the radial fronts. It either spun, or hooked and hopped BAD!

Couldn't get out of the 12's all over the place, et wise.

Put the bias on, and never looked back. Last time out, all runs were within a tenth. (11.39, 11.40 and another run in the 11.40's, can't remember off the top of my head.

I don't drive it enough on the street to see any problem with radial/bias mix. I'm more worried about getting caught in the rain, they're basically treadless.

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I had a hiccup on my 1-2 shift.

That 110 MPH will come up when I get a clean run.


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Don't post on here much, but I will chime in. I picked up almost half a second in the 1/8th going from 555rs to biasply et streets. 110mph trap speed indicates that you are a low 12 second car, possibly, just maybe you can slip into the 11.9x, but keep trying, that's the fun of it.

My car is a 331, full interior, ac, and power steering, weighing about 3400 with me in it. Runs 11.7x at 117 naturally aspirated and went 10.86 at 121.xx on a 100 shot. Those were 1.59 and 1.48 60fts with those times too.

Keep up the work, that's what's fun!

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Let me know when you're going to be there. I want to bring my car up and see what it'll do. I have a pair of Hoosiers D.O.T's on four lug wheels if you want to give them a try.

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