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Want to go rear coilovers, who ya like?

Going to switch to a MT Pro Bracket Radial next year, 9x28, from current MT 10.5x28 slick. Want to be able to control rear height, and would definitely go with a double adjustable shock for dialing in suspension with the radials. Would prefer to stay stock location for ease of installation, I donít weld. If someone was to make a compelling argument otherwise, always willing to listen. There are some obvious players out there, QA1, UPR, Strange, Team Z. This is a drag only footbrake class bracket car. Specs in sig.


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I went with this: Wolfe Race Craft - Detail

You are able to adjust ride height without going to a coil over.

Oooops, just saw that you do not weld....never mind. mLol

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I see that UPR makes a kit that comes with Viking double adjustables. 19 adjustable. Way to go? Or something else?

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I think there are a lot of different ways to get where you want to go. I did not see anyone mention Chris Alston's Chassisworks. I just installed a set of their single adjustable rear coilovers in my car and their stuff had top notch workmanship. I do not know how well they work yet since the car is not running.
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I see that UPR makes a kit that comes with Viking double adjustables. 19 adjustable. Way to go? Or something else?
Don't cheap out on rear shocks. Buy the best that you can afford. If that is a Viking, then you are good to go. If you can afford better, do that. Personally I run Afco double adjustable. I wish I could afford Menscer shocks.

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I’d stay away from the upr kit, personal experience.
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Iíd stay away from the upr kit, personal experience.
That would indicate a bad experience. Lot of folks seem to like Viking shocks, and on the Viking website when you go to their rear coilover kit for 94-04 it is UPR. So what didnít you like?

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I would also like to know you're experiences with the UPR conversion setup.
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They use a sleeve design over top of a normal coilover. There is nearly not as much adjustment as a true threaded body style. I’d go direct though Viking, the actual coilover is a threaded body. I agree with Viking, hindsight is 20/20, I got the upr kit with strange coilovers. Don’t get me started on customer care through upr.....

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They use a sleeve design over top of a normal coilover. There is nearly not as much adjustment as a true threaded body style. Iíd go direct though Viking, the actual coilover is a threaded body. I agree with Viking, hindsight is 20/20, I got the upr kit with strange coilovers. Donít get me started on customer care through upr.....
You talking front or rear coilovers? This thread is about rear coilovers.
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menscers
Afco
stanhuff

one of those 3
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Yes, rear coilovers
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To cut the confusion, if the actual shock is threaded, like the crusader series Viking shock, I would go that route. If it’s a threaded sleeve, which is essentially a milled aluminum sleeve that slides over the shock tube, like upr sells, I wouldn’t buy it. Just my .02 from personal experience, I’m only comparing design differences.
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The only coil over kit I saw on the UPR page has viking shocks in it. I've never seen what you described.

EDIT: I went and looked and I do see a kit like you described. But I've considered these or something like this.

http://www.uprproducts.com/mustang-r...hocks-qa1.html
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Lots of good feedback here, I am finding it a bit odd that nobody has mentioned Strange Engineering for rear coilovers. They say their adjuster is built into the shock, not a sleeve, and they have a good selection for ride height ranges. I currently have their cheapo heavy single adjustable 10 ways struts in front and shocks in rear, and 5-6 years no worries. Some reason people donít like them? https://www.strangeengineering.net/p...g-kit-pr.html/

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Lots of good feedback here, I am finding it a bit odd that nobody has mentioned Strange Engineering for rear coilovers. They say their adjuster is built into the shock, not a sleeve, and they have a good selection for ride height ranges. I currently have their cheapo heavy single adjustable 10 ways struts in front and shocks in rear, and 5-6 years no worries. Some reason people donít like them? https://www.strangeengineering.net/p...g-kit-pr.html/
Depends on the car. For Outlaw type racing or pro-racing combos the valving isn't stiff enough to control movement at this level of racing. For us street/strip and play racing they are fine along with QA1.

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They use a sleeve design over top of a normal coilover. There is nearly not as much adjustment as a true threaded body style. I’d go direct though Viking, the actual coilover is a threaded body. I agree with Viking, hindsight is 20/20, I got the upr kit with strange coilovers. Don’t get me started on customer care through upr.....
I purchased the Viking rear coilovers. For the money I spent, they are doing fine.

UPR's customer service.......agreed, the worst!

Put it this way.........I had to argue with them to return a double shipment to me that they did not even know about!

I could had just kept them.

So when I had a slight problem with the set I kept......they at first did not want to work with me......I had to go through the owner and remind them how I return things under their F up!

I'm not SAYING, I'M JUST SAYING!!!!
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Depends on the car. For Outlaw type racing or pro-racing combos the valving isn't stiff enough to control movement at this level of racing. For us street/strip and play racing they are fine along with QA1.

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plenty of guys running strange shocks in ultra street actually. but not sure how many are running stock valving

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What kind of spring rate do foxbody cars need? Or, how do I determine the proper spring rate?
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What kind of spring rate do foxbody cars need? Or, how do I determine the proper spring rate?
depends on the overall weight... weight splits... then how much stored energy you want... among a bunch of other stuff

so anywhere between 60 and 250's

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I run Strange adjustable front struts (coil overs with 150 lb/in springs) on my car. They work OK. I have front end limiters installed as well. I usually have the fronts at full tight and still need the limiters to control front end rise. A better front strut would eliminate the need for the limiters. Not in the budget this winter, maybe next. I spent most of the money on the rear suspension first.

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I run Strange adjustable front struts (coil overs with 150 lb/in springs) on my car. They work OK. I have front end limiters installed as well. I usually have the fronts at full tight and still need the limiters to control front end rise. A better front strut would eliminate the need for the limiters. Not in the budget this winter, maybe next. I spent most of the money on the rear suspension first.
we run mencers pretty damn tight and still need limiters. if you get the rear right the front doesnt need to be as fancy as you think

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