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post #1 of 20 Old 09-06-2017, 09:55 AM Thread Starter
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Morning Everyone, thanks for taking the time to read my post. I am building a 331 stroker Turbo motor for my 1990 Gt. My Goal is 1000hp+. The block is Dart Iron eagle and all internals are rated for 1500hp. I'm looking online and been searching the Forum for a few days now reading all I can on cylinder heads. What are your recommendations for heads for this kind of build. I originally was looking at AFR 225, but after speaking with a few guys in my area they say the AFR is not the best way to go. They are pushing more in the direction of a Bennett racing, Race Flow Development, CFE. My question is does anyone have experience with any of these heads are they worth the extra thousands over AFR. Any other suggestions I should look into? Is there someone on here who can build me a head for my setup? The car will be mainly at the drag strip, with occasional Sunday cruise and car show. It will be EFI and single turbo, automatic car. Rear will be narrowed and mini-tubbed, strange Coil overs, ARB, Team z control arms, and K member. Any more info you may need let me know. Thanks again!

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are you looking for expensive stuff that needs shaft rockers, big spring pressure and $1k for lifters or what? because i would be very careful looking at some of those more expensive heads because a lot of times what they dont tell you is typical $400 stud rockers dont work well if you want the geometry to be spot on. thats my $.02. i would probably just run the AFR if i only wanted to make $1k with boost. for rockers i would run some comp ultra pro mags. although, if you are running something you have to set lash on, the shaft stuff is nice and saves a lot of time.

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It doesn't have to be the expensive stuff, I can use that money in other areas. Bigger Turbo, Trans, etc. I just want quality equipment that with withstand the punishment and make the horsepower I want to make with out having it running on the edge every pass. I know drag racing your always on the edge but if I'm shooting for 1000 I want the systems to handle 1200+ if that makes since. I want to use quality parts, that meet or exceed my expectations. If that means it cost money then I have to spend it to play, if I can get the same performance with a more cost effective equal then that's great. Thanks again for the help.
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TFS SBF High Port CNC 240 Done .

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I am making around 1,200+hp with AFR 220 Renegade heads at 20 psi on a 358 cid SBF with 9.0:1 compression on E-85. Nothing wrong with the AFR head. Using Jesel shaft mount 1.7 rockers...under the stock valve covers.

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Nice, I will make some calls tomorrow and see what I can get out of the AFR's, thanks for the help.
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Hit up Keith craft in Arkansas. He has the best heads from what I hear. He has been in the game for a long time even if you just got some advice from him it'll be worth your time. I can't afford his stuff or his work but if I could I would be happy to give him my money.
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I will do that! Thanks for the insight . Exactly what I was looking for. Great info from everyone. Thanks all
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I would not hesitate to put a TFS 225 High Port on your combo I switched from an afr 205 to the high ports and picked up a 147rwhp with no other changes.
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Hit up Keith craft in Arkansas. He has the best heads from what I hear. He has been in the game for a long time even if you just got some advice from him it'll be worth your time. I can't afford his stuff or his work but if I could I would be happy to give him my money.

Keith ain't there anymore but it's still the same place. So don't go calling and asking for Keith. You'll likely get Tony or Lance (Lance is the owner). Both are top notch, but some guys don't care for Tony's tone. He knows his stuff though. Good folks-the entire operation is full of good folks.

Y'all also don't forget about Kuntz and Company...same town, a few miles apart from Craft Racing, and they both know how to make your Ford's work well on your budget. I live about 100 miles from there so if I need something I tend to go there first before a run-of-the-mill machine shop. There are shops closer but none nearly as good. Highly impressed with both Kuntz and Craft. Got my AFR's from Craft back in the springtime with their own CNC program on them.

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Thanks for the info, but I talked with a guy this week and he said I could NOT run the TFS High ports, I have an ON3 Setup with a precision turbo and 5 inch intercooler. Is that because of the down pipe or cross piping? If that's the case it looks like I will have to go AFR or Brodix, Right? Or fabricate some new piping to work? I will still talk with The shops in Arkansas, too. Any thoughts?
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The hi port exhaust is raised .750 over the stock location so you would be making some piping placement changes. The hi port is the best broke dick sportsman racer 20 degree head you can buy imo. Those other heads you were talking about are WAY over your needs, WAY over. The afr will work just fine, been done a zillion times.

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The hi port exhaust is raised .750 over the stock location so you would be making some piping placement changes. The hi port is the best broke dick sportsman racer 20 degree head you can buy imo. Those other heads you were talking about are WAY over your needs, WAY over. The afr will work just fine, been done a zillion times.
#### you can go crazy and do hip'd 250's with all the bells and whistles like we ran an run DEEP into the 4's and be able to go 6's out the back with them heads! people underestimate the highports!

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With an on3 setup I think the best head would be the largest twisted wedge 11r head you can get if you want the best chance of getting it to fit. Exhaust is going to be in the right spot. Afr225 will have a hard time sealing with the on3 header.
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What size turbo are you using with that On3 kit . It's a tight fit with just a Precision 7675 in there . That Turbo on E-85 will get you close to 1,000 . I see a custom kit in your future . TW 205's would fit the bill.
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Has anyone dealt with these yet?

Head Hunter? F Series/15 - Brodix

I haven't researched them at ALL, other than what you see on the site. Friend has a set ordered for a 440" SBF. Other than that I know nothing. What do y'all know about 'em?

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nope... never dealt with them.

in our world its high port then the SC1... then everyone goes billet. no point in running anything else due to weight

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In the past, Brodix inline SBF stuff has been less than impressive given the price point and standard hardware selection. But, again I have no clue on the newest head hunter stuff that's out now. Kinda reminds me of the Edelbrock 7721 and it's variations in a way.

Again I know a guy local who's ordered a set. Hopefully he'll get it going soon. Looks like he'll be the test dummy.

I kinda wanted to ask Ed if he's had any dealings with them, but I hate to bother him, taking him away from working. Local builder says he's used them and went on to say that some people are very brand loyal. I took it as "some want Brodix because of the name"-but maybe I am wrong-and that shop is about an hour's drive through the hills from Brodix.

Are the HH SBF heads going to require offset lifters? Offset rockers? specific pistons? I don't know. That's why I brought them up for discussion.
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Call Billy Glidden. I guarantee he can tell you which head is the best. Just make sure you are not on a budget.
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Call Billy Glidden. I guarantee he can tell you which head is the best. Just make sure you are not on a budget.
if there isnt a budget its going to be a visner, MBE or Ultra pro... but you are going to be looking at 15-20K on the heads alone.

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