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Can someone school me on "Water-Box 101"? When to use/not use?

OK, I have been to the dragstrip once or twice, but noticed there are a variety of ways to utilize the water box. Do street radials drive around it? Do you do the burnout IN the box, or pull through and then burnout?

I have street radials, but will be swapping to a slick in the near future.


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do not drive through the water boz with radials.
i run nittos so i go around the box then back up while watching the track official. he will let me know when to stop and start my burnout. this is usually at the edge of the box.
i have only ran at the track 4-5 times so i'm sure the experts will chime in with the correct methods.


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radials, go around the water, do not back into it. stay away completely.

slicks and skinnies, pull through the water until your back tires are in, spin the tires to get them wet, pull up a few inches out of the water and proceed to do a 2nd gear burnout, release the break and roll out until the tires hook.
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we drive around the water and back in because u will bring water up off the front tires if u drive all the way in. i have a roll contral on my car so i dont use my back brakes up when doing a burn out
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we drive around the water and back in because u will bring water up off the front tires if u drive all the way in. i have a roll contral on my car so i dont use my back brakes up when doing a burn out
If you are running a fat/stock type tire up front, definitely drive around the water box. As mentioned, you get water in the front treads and it just drips down on the track right under your rear tires.

If you are on skinnies and slicks, its not a problem.

Even on radials as long as you have skinnies up front, you can roll through the water box. Do not spin them over in the water box. A properly prepared water box will be wide enough that as you roll through it, you get the entire tire wet enough to start spinning them once you are out of the box on dry pavement. That is the only thing the water is for, to make it easier to turn the tires to get your burnout going.

All that said, even with a radial as long as you barely wet them and don't spin them in the box (spinning in the box will sling water up into your rear fender well which will then drip down onto the tire after your burnout), they will dry off and be ready to race.

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slicks.... drive through the water. DO NOT SPIN THE TIRES OVER.... there is no need. once you roll through the water, they are wet... no need to spin.... that will just throw water up in the fenders and that will in turn fall down on the tires after the burn out and end up on the track.... so after you drive through the water box, STOP AT THE END. usually a track official will tell you when to stop... not at my track, morons drive up about 5 feet, draggin the water that far with them.... then there's the snowball effect of people trying to drive out farther than where the last person stopped...and you see where this is going.

and if you have street tires.... be kind to everyone else out there trying to do a little testing, line up out of the groove so you don't tear up the rubber laid down on the track

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If you are running a fat/stock type tire up front, definitely drive around the water box. As mentioned, you get water in the front treads and it just drips down on the track right under your rear tires.

If you are on skinnies and slicks, its not a problem.

Even on radials as long as you have skinnies up front, you can roll through the water box. Do not spin them over in the water box. A properly prepared water box will be wide enough that as you roll through it, you get the entire tire wet enough to start spinning them once you are out of the box on dry pavement. That is the only thing the water is for, to make it easier to turn the tires to get your burnout going.

All that said, even with a radial as long as you barely wet them and don't spin them in the box (spinning in the box will sling water up into your rear fender well which will then drip down onto the tire after your burnout), they will dry off and be ready to race.

^^^what he said..i just didn't read it before i posted!^^^

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I back into the box, and then give them a once over. Pull forward, and proceed into the burnout...

If I ran skinnies out front I would go through the water box, but with the 255s, I don't want to drag water up to the starting line.

The starters will actually help you out. Get you into the water, help you pull forward etc...

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we have 3.5 up front and it still puts water up there but are 60 foot times are in the 1.30 range. that maybe the differents that we are having. just tring to get the power to the ground.
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I roll through the box very slow so not to get water on the top of my inner rear fenders and stop right outside the box and do my burn out. I have 15x3.5 up front and get 60' in the high 1.3's every time.

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OK, I have been to the dragstrip once or twice, but noticed there are a variety of ways to utilize the water box. Do street radials drive around it? Do you do the burnout IN the box, or pull through and then burnout?

I have street radials, but will be swapping to a slick in the near future.
Yes,drive around water box with street radials,back to the edge of the water box without getting into the water.You should have enough power to do a burnout on street radials without getting in the water box.Then wait for track official tell you to do your burnout then pull to the starting line.

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just a thought, I never do a burnout with street radials, just scuff them off. heating them doesn't really help imo

drive around and back up, wet tires, pull out and do 2nd gear burnout like someone else mentioned. skinnies or fat tires up front, I would avoid water on the fronts, no matter how small the tire you are still taking the chance of dripping water for your rears to roll over, also, wet fronts can push while doing the burnout.

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Cool guys, thanks for the help. I can't wait.

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radials, go around the water, do not back into it. stay away completely.

slicks and skinnies, pull through the water until your back tires are in, spin the tires to get them wet, pull up a few inches out of the water and proceed to do a 2nd gear burnout, release the break and roll out until the tires hook.
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When I ran at the track in ABQ a few years ago, there was still a lot of gravel up to and around the staging lanes. I would pull around the water, line up and give the tires a quick zing to get rid of any stones or gravel still in the treads. Maybe the track has changed in the past few years but I'm guessing they still dont do much maintenance on test and tune nights. They really needed to sweep up more.

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