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MM&FF REAL RADIAL TIRE SHOOTOUT

MUSCLE MUSTANGS & FAST FORDS REAL RADIAL TIRE SHOOTOUT

Have you ever wanted to have you car featured in Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords magazine? Do you enjoy squeezing every ounce of performance from your ride at the dragstrip? Then we have just the ticket for you. Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords magazine is looking for participants for an upcoming shootout and you could be one of them.

Lots of people run drag radials full-time on their hotrods, but the majority of people out there use a conventional radial tire. That being said, we want to see just how fast you can go with that type of tire. We’ll provide the track; you provide the horsepower.

The event will be held in October in Englishtown, New Jersey at Raceway Park, MM&FF’s home track. More information about the event will be given out once the submissions have been tallied and competitors have been chosen.

Here are the rules:

-Any late-model Ford/Lincoln/ Mercury vehicle.
-Any engine, any mods, any number of power adders—bring it all!
-Stock style suspension only.
-Finished interior. Racing buckets Ok as long as there are two front seats. Rear seat delete OK if properly carpeted or upholstered
-Any radial tire so long as it is NOT a D.O.T.-approved drag or road racing tire. Tire specifications/models must be submitted upon entry and approved by the MM&FF staff.
-Any transmission.
-Must have all NHRA required safety equipment, racing license per applicable elapsed time/mph.
-Mufflers required and all cars must pass Englishtown’s strict noise restrictions. No bullet-style mufflers allowed.

Shootout submissions should include exterior, interior and engine pictures, along with detailed information about your car, including dragstrip times, horsepower output, mods list, etc … Be sure to include all of your contact information. Send all submissions to [email protected], or snail mail them to Source Interlink Media, 9036 Brittany Way, Tampa, Florida 33619, Attn: Steve Baur.

Thanks and Good Luck,

Steve Baur

Associate Editor, MM&FF

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sure wish this was a little more south...


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damn so no mickey thomspon drag radials,only tires like nitto and bfgoodrich

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No drag radials at all. No 555Rs, no BFG drag radials. Just your everday radial. Probably anything with a treadwear of 180 or more is a safe bet. We'll be reviewing the choices later on.
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Sounds dangerous!

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Some Viper has been 9's on STREET RADIALS so it's doable, but man thats gonna make for some hairy rides!
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Look on any of the internet video sites and watch all of the crashes on there that occur at the strip. I am willing to bet the majority of them had drag tires on the cars. It's all too easy to make horsepower and overpower any tire. If anything, it might be safer. You don't have the extra traction to make you go faster.
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You guys car about the MSD 7531?...Slew would be a big advantage in this one.

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Do you have an actual date in october?
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You can have whatever you want, as long as it fits in the rules.

We're looking at the third week of October.

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Id love to do this, as i already have an idea what my car runs on a real radial tire (about 1.5 secods slower ) but i already am doing a track rental at e-town the 17th of oct. Not sure if i can get off again with out knowing a tentative date.
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Sounds dangerous!
Lots of tracks run real radial classes and are moving pretty damn good on them.... most run Mastercraft or futuras. Its not very popular in the NE though, so getting a decent turnout could be hard, Hell I would try it if my red car was up and running, the blue notch that I am drive now would be lucky to go 13's on a slick.

So there is no tire size limit and retreads are allowed as long as is above a 180 tread wear rating?
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Well the Z06 corvette can go 11's on street tires, so I would suspect 10's are are going to be common place and even 9's possibly??

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Lots of tracks run real radial classes and are moving pretty damn good on them.... most run Mastercraft or futuras. Its not very popular in the NE though, so getting a decent turnout could be hard, Hell I would try it if my red car was up and running, the blue notch that I am drive now would be lucky to go 13's on a slick.

So there is no tire size limit and retreads are allowed as long as is above a 180 tread wear rating?
I was just saying its dangerous if you get a car with some power on some radials.My car on any tire will kill them from a 70 roll on the street.ET street drags whatever.Im sure theres some out there that can do it.Im not even gonna attemt it.

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sounds right up my alley, i can go 10.00s easy on true radials.

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I think we are looking at Oct 14,15,16 as a possible date.

Make sure you send in your entries.
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15" Tires shouldnt be allowed,nobody uses those outdated radial sizes anymore unless its a slick or drag radial,just look at how many regular radial tires are for sale in that size(take 275/60R15) at any tire company like tirerack vs something more common nowadays like a 275/40R17...just my 2 cents.
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Actually there are quite a few companies that still produce radial tires in those sizes. Sometimes they are not in the newer tire models, but they are available none-the-less.
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yes and they're made for trucks and vans,just look at the speed ratings for those tires lol ....most of them,if not all are S-rated,112mph!...its risky to ask people to run very fast with those kinds of tires.
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yes and they're made for trucks and vans,just look at the speed ratings for those tires lol ....most of them,if not all are S-rated,112mph!...its risky to ask people to run very fast with those kinds of tires.
Alot of people run skinnies designed for vw's that probably arent even s rated lol, which on an 03 cobra is scarey because they are so nose heavy
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and how much power are they putting thru the front tires? hehe and besides most skinnies are bias non-radials and are designed for drag racing out of the box,at least the ones the should be used.
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Man! I would love to run this! No way I could make it to englishtown though.

Nothing cooler than bring whatcha want spec tire races.

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No body runs 15s anymore??!!?? You're an idiot. Anybody trying to go fast on a true street radial does.

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Jared...no need to make personal attacks like that
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No body runs 15s anymore??!!?? You're an idiot. Anybody trying to go fast on a true street radial does.

Hahaha. So true.


They need to add "unmodified hard radial tires". I've seen some home made tire dressings that can make a dryrotted hard radial hook like a slick

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Damn...I wish I hadn't sold my 85. OR I wish my 92 was done...I'd be doing this in a heartbeat.

Growing up around here we always tried to go fast on regular radials, just for the hell of it!

I actually went 1.79 60' on a set of regular cooper cobras in a 255/60. But the car only ran 13.00's too. LOL!

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Hi all,

We've decided to postpone the real radial tire shootout until next March/April. We just couldn't make it happen before our track closes for the season. We will still be accepting submissions up until then.

Just for reference, Lidio Iacobelli of Alternative auto regularly ran low 11s with his 2007 Mustang GT, and ran a best of 10.91 at 126mph on 20-inch radial tires.

http://www.alternativeauto.com/water...pcar_12_2.html

Our own project Milf ran 11.54 on standard radial tires as well. Not everyone will be able to run these times, but we suspect that there are a good many who could. I would think that a Terminator wouldn't have much of a problem going that fast since they hook up so well on the street.

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