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65 mustang swap parts

guna be buying a 1965 mustang 289 v8 and i was wondering if there any interchangable parts that fit the 65?
braking, suspension, steering components and so one

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So you're asking if '65 Mustang parts will swap onto a '65 Mustang?


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no if there any moderen parts that will swap in, ei. the rear end of a sn95 or the brakes off another mustang.
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Granda front disc brakes will fit.http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...svzf5GBn61Utsghttp://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...2na3vMazPt5avQ

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Nothing will bolt right in.

However, there are a lot of modifications that people will do to incorporate newer parts into older cars.

Some popular ones, in addition to racerxmdd's granada front disc brake swap are:
1) Roller 5.0 from an 86-93 Mustang, with or without fuel injection
2) AOD (automatic overdrive) transmission from a 80's-early 90's Ford, including Mustang
3) Dual-bowl master cylinder for safety
4) 8.8 inch rear end from a Fox Mustang
5) T-5 transmission to replace a factory 4-speed

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I have seen a lot of people swap 8.8s out of Explorers in. I never have looked into why but just assumed it must take the least amount of work to do. But perhaps it is just because of cost reasons.


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I have seen a lot of people swap 8.8s out of Explorers in. I never have looked into why but just assumed it must take the least amount of work to do. But perhaps it is just because of cost reasons.


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Probably cheaper and more plentiful in the junkyard. I know the rears from a Mustang GT are guaranteed to have traction-loc, but the Explorers aren't guaranteed to, you have to check the data plate. I don't know about the width differences. Its possible the Explorers came with disc brakes, that would make it an attractive option.

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Also, do a T-5 Trans. Swap and do the MOD the the Clutch Pedal so it will accept a Clutch Cable. There is also a kit that let's you install Rack-N-Pinion to old classic Mustangs.
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As I remember all 8.8s in V8 Explorers came with rear disc brakes. I think steeper gearing than their mustang cousins. Pretty sure they are also a different width than the Mustangs. Of course all GT Muatangs since 1994 also have rear discs. I'd thought those Mustang rearend aren't a whole lot different in cost from the boneyard.

I can't say for certain on the diffs but sure thought the Explorers had traction locks. Maybe even 31 splines but betting 28s. Regardless it is something worth looking into for a stranger rear end and better brakes all in one reasonably priced modern packaged upgrade.

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Also, do a T-5 Trans. Swap and do the MOD the the Clutch Pedal so it will accept a Clutch Cable. There is also a kit that let's you install Rack-N-Pinion to old classic Mustangs.
I personally would not do a T5 given how weak they are. But guess it depends on what(if anything) is done to the engine for power. If it is a 4-speed car and a top loader instead of a T-10(?) then I'd just keep that. But I never have had overdrive high up on my wish lists.


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I did a 5-speed swap when I had my '65 Fastback. But my trans was a Tremec TKO. I liked that I had a Over-Drive, made a Big Difference. I still have pics of the MOD that is needed on the clutch pedal for the clutch cable up-grade if needed.
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The T-5 is adequate for up to about 300HP.

Overdrive is a huge gas saver. My 1966 289 C4 would get close to 20MPG at 55MPH, and about 14MPH at 70MPH.

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I know plenty of people who broke plenty of T5s in stone stock Fox body Mustangs which is a far cry from 300 hp though different weight car. My point being here that they can be broken much easier than say the previously mentioned Tremec TKO can. But I suppose it all boils down to why you are doing the swap and what you are going to use the car for. If the car is not going to be daily driven then I'd not waste my time swapping to a 5-speed if it is a 4-speed already and if that 4-speed is a Top Loader. But I am just assuming here that someone who is wanting to put modern tech on the car is going to want to modify it for more power.

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I know plenty of people who broke plenty of T5s in stone stock Fox body Mustangs which is a far cry from 300 hp though different weight car. My point being here that they can be broken much easier than say the previously mentioned Tremec TKO can. But I suppose it all boils down to why you are doing the swap and what you are going to use the car for. If the car is not going to be daily driven then I'd not waste my time swapping to a 5-speed if it is a 4-speed already and if that 4-speed is a Top Loader. But I am just assuming here that someone who is wanting to put modern tech on the car is going to want to modify it for more power.
I can only assume he isn't adding more power based on the OP, but who knows.

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Isnt torque the issue with the t-5s?I thought they were rated for torque.
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Too much torque tends to break 3rd gear in a T-5.

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Shifting too hard into 3rd will grenade them too if you lack a shifter with good or properly adjust stops. The ford shifters on the Fox bodies lacked that and why a lot of people killed their T5s.


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whats the simplest n not to costly way to change the alt to 3g, go disc brakes all around and upgrade to modern power steering??
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whats the simplest n not to costly way to change the alt to 3g, go disc brakes all around and upgrade to modern power steering??
Via Google:

MustangSteve's GRANADA to MUSTANG DISC BRAKE INSTALLATION INFORMATION

Step by Step 3G Alternator Upgrade 1965 Mustang

1966 Ford Mustang - Project '66 - How To: '65-'66 Power-Steering Conversiong - Mustang Monthly Magazine

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I think the front Lincoln brakes are the better option.




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Do you have more info/link on the Lincoln swap?

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Do you have more info/link on the Lincoln swap?
I bought all of my parts several years ago. They work well for me.







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The T-5 is adequate for up to about 300HP.
Don't tell that to the T5Z in my signature, it lived happily behind a nitroused 347 for several years.

As mentioned, a good aftermarket shifter and don't power shift 3rd gear are the keys.

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thanks for that link for the 3g alt!, i guna keep to auto transmisson for now, what would be the cheapest ford car/truck to pull out a c4 trans from??
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thanks for that link for the 3g alt!, i guna keep to auto transmisson for now, what would be the cheapest ford car/truck to pull out a c4 trans from??
Wherever you can find one in a junkyard. They used them in a LOT of vehicles. There's a list here:

Ford C4 transmission - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

You should be able to find a cheap one in a Fairmont, Granada or LTD.

I highly recommend taking a good look at the AOD swap before picking up a C4. Its not too difficult or expensive, the transmissions are widely available, and gaining overdrive will save you a lot of money in gas in the future.

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that sounds better, which car had AOD's in them?? and do u know of a write up i can check out
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86-93 Mustang. Lots of transmissions available, search your local Craigslist for AOD. I can almost guarantee you'll find one on your first try.

Here's a good article: Ford Transmission Swap - Overdrive Transmission Upgrade - Mustang Monthly Magazine"

Beyond that just google 'AOD Swap' and you'll get a ton of videos and discussions. HTH.

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Nice thread to follow

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AJE has a front and rear kit that will let you use engine,spindles,brakes,rack, and rearend from 87-04 Mustangs in the early Mustangs. Even some of the 79-86 parts will work.
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do a google search for $200 disc brakes. there is a good thread on one of the mustang message boards (I can't remember which one now) I did it on my 70. the only thing you can't buy is the spacers. I made mine. I also got my rotors and calipers from a salvage yard. I did the whole swap for $145.

If you get a 4x4 explorer rear it has Posi and 31 spline axles. the pumpkin is slightly off-center but it does not interfere with operation unlees the car is slammed and you bottom out the suspension, then the driveshaft "MIGHT" rub on the trans tunnel. You will need to modify the emergency brake cable as well.
the fix for the off center part is to cut the drivers side tube down to use another passenger side axle and weld it back up.

The AOD swap would benefit a driver car. If you are just going to cruise it leave the C4 in it. You can get it rebuilt pretty cheaply. Find a shop that will do a bench rebuild so you can save on the labor to pull it and install it. Make sure they will warranty it though.
some shops won't if they don't install it.
Oh when you do that buy new trans cooler lines they are cheap and everything will go together beautifully. Flush the trans cooler in the radiator as well.

When i get back from the middle of nowhere I am doing a 5 speed swap in my 70.
It has the $200 disc brakes, exploder rear with discs and 3.55 gears and a slightly warmed over 347 with world products heads and a performer rpm intake

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If you haven't already, check out https://www.vintage-mustang.com/
Huge amount of info for the early Mustangs. The T5 can be installed, 3G ALT upgrades, and you can even put Cobra brakes on them up front. Pretty much anything you can think of has already been done. You've just got a lot of reading to do. So far on my wife's 65, Iv'e swapped out a GT40P engine, replaced all the BS steering components with more modern stuff, and replaced all the stereo equipment. Replacing all the AC and power/disc brake upgrade is next.

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