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Mass Air???

I'm trying to convert my truck to mass air. I bought a 96 F150 computer 5.8 E4OD. Buy it's a completely different computer than the stock, Has almost twice as many prongs and with that in mind there no way to convert this computer to my harness. What computer do it need???

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sounds like you got an obd2 computer...you need an older VEX1 coded computer


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Yeah i found everything i need to know. Anyone have a BIO0 computer they wanna sell?
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still got that 96 comp? And do you want to sellit?

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can i ask your reason for wanting to switch?
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can i ask your reason for wanting to switch?
Umm My stock computer weny down so if i have to buy another computer i figure i might as well buy one that will support a cam and give me more power with better gasmileage.
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still got that 96 comp? And do you want to sellit?

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I returned it.
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Umm My stock computer weny down so if i have to buy another computer i figure i might as well buy one that will support a cam and give me more power with better gasmileage.

thats cool, was just wondering
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Mass air will not give you more power.Especially with the VEX1 or B1O0,both have very mild tunes stock.


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Mass air will not give you more power.Especially with the VEX1 or B1O0,both have very mild tunes stock.
So your saying it will give me less power? i have examples saying otherwise.
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hes saying it wont give you MORE power

FWIW, in theory any restriction in the air inlet will reduce power. you may have a dozen examples of people gaining power while someone else will have a dozen examples of people losing power by making the switch.

i feel if the truck has a stock cam it should stay SD. you mentioned swapping cams so that throws that out the window. i still find it hard to justify the price of the swap when the stock cam works as well as it does. besides in this day and age its possible to get a custom cam that will make power and work with SD and your going to need a custom chip burnt for just about anything you do anyways, why not save the $1000 the swap normally costs and get a chip burnt for the SD?

to each his own i guess
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hes saying it wont give you MORE power

FWIW, in theory any restriction in the air inlet will reduce power. you may have a dozen examples of people gaining power while someone else will have a dozen examples of people losing power by making the switch.

i feel if the truck has a stock cam it should stay SD. you mentioned swapping cams so that throws that out the window. i still find it hard to justify the price of the swap when the stock cam works as well as it does. besides in this day and age its possible to get a custom cam that will make power and work with SD and your going to need a custom chip burnt for just about anything you do anyways, why not save the $1000 the swap normally costs and get a chip burnt for the SD?

to each his own i guess
I'm totaling $150 to do my swap. Not $1000.
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I'm totaling $150 to do my swap. Not $1000.
i said "normally costs"

if you can get it that cheap then go for it. the price is the biggest drawback in my mind

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i said "normally costs"

if you can get it that cheap then go for it. the price is the biggest drawback in my mind
Thats average price if you do it yourself,

Computer from a junkyard: $100
Mass air conversion harness: 34.99
Used Mass Air: $25
I had a mass air in stock, so thats were i came up with $150.

Already had solder iron, and solder.
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Thats average price if you do it yourself,

Computer from a junkyard: $100
Mass air conversion harness: 34.99
Used Mass Air: $25
I had a mass air in stock, so thats were i came up with $150.

Already had solder iron, and solder.
thats cool, a lot of people cant do that kind of stuff on their own and shell out the $1000 ford wants for their conversion kit

are you using a stock 5.0 meter? seems a little small

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thats cool, a lot of people cant do that kind of stuff on their own and shell out the $1000 ford wants for their conversion kit

are you using a stock 5.0 meter? seems a little small
I had an old 75mm off my stang. but i also bought a used stock 351 computer from a junk yard for $25 bucks incase the mustang one doesn't work right.
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cool, sounds like you got all the bases covered. let us know how it turns out!
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Yeah Im intrested in how it turns out too.
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I got it up and running great. Kinda messed up on the install, but if i would of payed more attention it would have been just a few hours project.
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how is the transmission control? alot of people who use the factory mass air computers say its a dog off the line at wot (wont 60ft for ****). I am considering swapping to a mass air computer, but can't really decide. I don't really need it to 60ft hard as I don't drag race much (rarely), but still would be nice to get out of the way quick.

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how is the transmission control? alot of people who use the factory mass air computers say its a dog off the line at wot (wont 60ft for ****). I am considering swapping to a mass air computer, but can't really decide. I don't really need it to 60ft hard as I don't drag race much (rarely), but still would be nice to get out of the way quick.
It's drives exactly like a stock 95 351W bronco, smooth idle, smooth acc, The shifting is softer. But overall i have more power and better fuel ecomony. It lost some of that when you punch it the vechile jerks foward, but it still acc. faster. I'm tuning it bit by bit with my tweecer, i'm slowly trying to get the best of both worlds. But i'm still learning how to work the tweecer so i'm just trying one small adjustment at a time. I'm overall happy with it, also it should pay for it's self in gas in a few months.
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thats cool I am somewhat local to you (Rockwall) so I might have to check up sometime about the mass air for my L. I have a tweecer so I was thinking about loading like hte mustang a9l maps for fuel/igntion/etc and the lightning program for the transmission.

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Michaelb303-- Which harness did you use? I am looking at an IST harness if I don't decide to just go TwEECer and forget it..
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Michaelb303-- Which harness did you use? I am looking at an IST harness if I don't decide to just go TwEECer and forget it..
I spliced in a mass air meter into the stock harness.
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