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post #1 of 21 Old 02-19-2005, 11:48 PM Thread Starter
 
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351 roller motor specs??

I am looking at buying a 351 roller motor long block. It was bought from for as a crate I think then thrown into an old truck, now I want it for my 69 mustang. I figured u guys would know best about. Also how much do you guys think is a good price??

Here are the casting #s i know of:
F4te-6015 AA9
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I just picked up an F4TE motor today from my local junkyard its in great shape I just tore it down it was out of a 94 F-250, I paid only $100 for the whole thing throttle body to oil pan. Its a roller motor so I guess I stole it for that price. It even came with the injectors and fuel rails and the oil cooler. It still has the cross hatches in the cylinder bores and there was no carbonbuild up on the heads anywhere. I would not pay more than $150 for a bare block but thats just me.

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I have two questions:
1, What would you pay for a long block?
2, What kind of internals,heads, and intake, came on the motor that you purchased??
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Maybe I would pay about $200-$250 for the long block, if I planned on using the stock heads and internals. I dont know the specs on my cam but its a roller cam, i got the complete motor throttle body to oil pan, I have not checked the casting numbers on my heads yet. Its has a truck EFI that looks similar to the 5.0 EFI manifold on the stangs. It also came with injectors and the fuel rail. Im not gonna be using any of the internals really so if you need some parts email me at [email protected]. The whole assembly is in great shape, hope this helps you a little
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my 351W out of a 94 F-150 had the F4te(roller) block HYPER pistons
E7TE heads just like the 302 and the famous "football rods". I dont know about the cam. i have it completely apart in the basement so if you need any info just ask..

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Red coupe, I am looking at building a 393 for a daily driven mustang, carburated. Is your block in condition to hold up to such a task??I would think it is. Also how many of those parts can be used in a rebuild? thanks
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Red coupe, I am looking at building a 393 for a daily driven mustang, carburated. Is your block in condition to hold up to such a task??I would think it is. Also how many of those parts can be used in a rebuild? thanks
one persons daily driver is anothers DRAG car 600hp is a low # for that block from what I have found from others at the track and on here

Im not sure of the 393 parts. someone on here will chime in.

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I think the block would hold a 393 quite well but if you put boost or juice through it you better think about making it stronger with a main girdle. You're pretty much going to have to replace all of the internals to make it a 393, the rods/pistons/crank will not work. Also, stock 351 heads will not do justice to a 393, look into some good aftermarket heads for it.

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I think the block would hold a 393 quite well but if you put boost or juice through it you better think about making it stronger with a main girdle. You're pretty much going to have to replace all of the internals to make it a 393, the rods/pistons/crank will not work. Also, stock 351 heads will not do justice to a 393, look into some good aftermarket heads for it.
MANY have split 302's with a main griddle and that MAY have helped but for the most part thay say its just "keeps you SCRAP parts in a nice little pile"

I agree stock 351 heads dont do ANY justice on a 351 much less a 393


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I used a F4TE block in my 90 LX coupe. Stock bottom end except .030 over forged pistons. Held up to 628rwhp and 7400 rpms. Horseshoe not included.....lmao.
Getting my 393ci with some low compression pistons/good bottom end ready to swap in though before my luck runs out.

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I think the block would hold a 393 quite well but if you put boost or juice through it you better think about making it stronger with a main girdle. You're pretty much going to have to replace all of the internals to make it a 393, the rods/pistons/crank will not work. Also, stock 351 heads will not do justice to a 393, look into some good aftermarket heads for it.
Thank you for your vote of confidence. I will most likely use a main girdle, just in case. If i ever add juice it will only be a 125 shot I highly doubt it will ever see a 250 shot.
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you guys are lucky getting whole roller motors for 100$... the junkyards around here are smart, they know what they got and they think its gold id like to have another F4TE as a spare

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around here I just pick up Core's... Junkyard here sells them for 250 complete.

His definition of core is 100k+ miles


One I brought home the other day had new crank, piston and rods in it. block was just redone. But he went by the mileage on the odometer. So sometimes I make out others I got to get it machined but oh well.

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you guys are lucky getting whole roller motors for 100$... the junkyards around here are smart, they know what they got and they think its gold id like to have another F4TE as a spare
I'll sell you one. It'll come with a free truck

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Is 400$ too much for a long block with say 150,000 miles. Also how far is it safe to bore these motors over.
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Is 400$ too much for a long block with say 150,000 miles. Also how far is it safe to bore these motors over.
If its a lightning motor than its a good deal because it'll have GT40 heads on it.

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I do not know if it is a lightining motor, I believe it was purchased from ford as a crate, so it might just be a regular engine out of say a f-250. If so then is it worth it. I can try to find out what heads are on it. What identifiers are the heads. Where are the casting numbers located?
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you guys are lucky getting whole roller motors for 100$... the junkyards around here are smart, they know what they got and they think its gold id like to have another F4TE as a spare

I found one in California for $70, but it is a pick up only, no shipping deal

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I prolly wouldn't want to go any more than 150.00-250.00 for a long block with the "E" heads. ralphiejantz- that was an extremely lucky find!!

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yeah he's supposed to have a few more for me too. The one I got is getting heads and new forged pistons and going in a stang. Im getting a bare block to do a stroker motor for another car. Them im gonna hang on the others maybe sell a few
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