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What mini starter to buy and why

recently bought one off LMR the SVE branded starter
it wasn't the best, dint engage properly and ended up dying after about 10 starts
I HAVE A 10:6:1 427W and need a new starter
any recommendations?

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recently bought one off LMR the SVE branded starter
it wasn't the best, dint engage properly and ended up dying after about 10 starts
I HAVE A 10:6:1 427W and need a new starter
any recommendations?
I run the PA performance starter on mine. No complaints at all although i'm turning over a stockish 302. Love how it sounds on startup though


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Have you thought about using one of the later model ones for like a 93? It’s not a true mini starter but it is smaller than a traditional and less expensive.

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https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s.../model/mustang

I've had good luck with this Summit branded starter on an 11:1 363 with headers and road racing pan. Clocking is a must for my app, at least for a geared starter.

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I only ever had one, and it's still in the car 17 years later..

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Bought a 94gt starter hopefully it'll work and last long
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Powermaster Ultra Torque here. Won't have anything else now.
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recently bought one off LMR the SVE branded starter
it wasn't the best, dint engage properly and ended up dying after about 10 starts
I HAVE A 10:6:1 427W and need a new starter
any recommendations?
I run the PA performance starter on mine. No complaints at all although i'm turning over a stockish 302. Love how it sounds on startup though
10.8:1 using a pa performance here. Works great whether it’s hot or cold.

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I’ve also got the PA performance mini starter and had it for 6-7 years with zero issues.

Currently have a 11.3:1 347 and so far no issues turning it over

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Had the very same PA performance starter on my race car about 12-13 years now, still works great.......

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I have a 11-1 dart block 427,with lots of initial timing. I used the original stock starter, (93) that
worked fine,for 3 years with the 427. It just died a few months ago. I bought a new stock style
starter at the auto parts store and it works fine. I do have 2 rear mounted batteries.

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recently bought one off LMR the SVE branded starter
it wasn't the best, dint engage properly and ended up dying after about 10 starts
I HAVE A 10:6:1 427W and need a new starter
any recommendations?
Here are some options for you to look at, not sure what your budget is...

https://www.jegs.com/webapp/wcs/stor...rsistYmm=false
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powermaster has my vote
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If that's your car in your avatar, it should already have a mini-starter and if it needs to be replaced, you should try to find a local shop that rebuilds starters. The OEM mini-starter should do that job without issue. And it should be cheaper than buying a new, sometimes questionable quality, unit.
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I bought the powermaster for my 92 mustang with ford racing boss block 427.
I have not installed it yet but it looks like a real nice piece.

Stock style auto parts store starter will only start car at first start up. Once driven and engine warms up it gets heat soaked and car has to cool down for it to restart.

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The stock starter will turn that engine over hot or cold. If it won't fire when hot, that's not a starter issue. If it is sluggish to turn over, it's a heat control issue and the starter probably needs a heat sheild to protect it from the header heat and/or the wiring to the starter is not sufficient and/or your battery is not up to snuff.
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Similar situation here....438" windsor, 15:1, methanol. Stock PMGR starter cranks fine. HOWEVER, with the battery in the back of the car, it has a appreciable voltage drop between batt and starter which I haven't addressed yet. That could be the relay or a wire issue or whatever. It is currently running with a 16v battery (no alternator, not needed in my case but they do make them in 16 volt) and at 16v, it cranks over like the spark plugs are out. But I also think that I've band-aided it with more voltage. 12v used to work fine.

DB electrical has a few starters too....I ain't never had any problems out of them. Some have. I keep a spare "just in case". Cheap enough to keep one. Have one on my little 2.3 and it cranks 10x faster than the factory starter ever did-and it was rebuilt. Probably a winding issue with the original as the brushes and solenoid were new/great shape. I just got tired of fiddling with it and bought a DB starter. Dad has one on his 7.3 Powerstroke which has been in service for, gosh, 12 years or so? And has one on his Maverick and his Mustang.
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I had a battery in the back of the hatch hot start issue. I moved the battery back to the engine bay and corrected some wrong size wiring and the problem went away.
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I bought the powermaster for my 92 mustang with ford racing boss block 427.
I have not installed it yet but it looks like a real nice piece.

Stock style auto parts store starter will only start car at first start up. Once driven and engine warms up it gets heat soaked and car has to cool down for it to restart.

Not so,my car whips over hot/cold or any where in between.

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Powermaster Ultra Torque here. Won't have anything else now.
Another vote for Powermaster. Bought one in 2005 after dealing with starter issues over the years. Iíve NEVER had a problem with it. Worth every penny to not have to dick around with starters for the last 14 years.

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The stock starter will turn that engine over hot or cold. If it won't fire when hot, that's not a starter issue. If it is sluggish to turn over, it's a heat control issue and the starter probably needs a heat sheild to protect it from the header heat and/or the wiring to the starter is not sufficient and/or your battery is not up to snuff.
Yeah i think its a heat control issue too getting to hot from the headers i bought a starter heat wrap shield made from some type of lava rock material from summit to go on it.i may just wrap the stock starter with it first and see how it does. I have a 4 guage cable from starter to solinoid on fender.battery is in the trunk ....

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Trickflow R intake with box upper/90mm throttle body
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Yeah i think its a heat control issue too getting to hot from the headers i bought a starter heat wrap shield made from some type of lava rock material from summit to go on it.i may just wrap the stock starter with it first and see how it does. I have a 4 guage cable from starter to solinoid on fender.battery is in the trunk ....
What gauge is the wire to/from the trunk? You should have at minimum 1/0.
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Yeah i think its a heat control issue too getting to hot from the headers i bought a starter heat wrap shield made from some type of lava rock material from summit to go on it.i may just wrap the stock starter with it first and see how it does. I have a 4 guage cable from starter to solinoid on fender.battery is in the trunk ....
What gauge is the wire to/from the trunk? You should have at minimum 1/0.
It is 1/0 guage copper

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I saw a heat shield product that was a piece of aluminum with an applied material that was good for 1800 degrees on one side and less than 1/4" clearance on the other.
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