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street only build ?

Hello everyone, long time lurker....first time poster!

picked up a 91 gt 5spd. i looking for some insight on motor build, this will be a street only car and will never see the track, looking for more of a cruiser that handles, stops and performs well on the street.

i could use some help with a top end h/c/i... looks like magic number is about 300rwhp from what i have seen on here but torque is also important for a street car, im not looking for a dyno bragging numbers.

I recently picked up a real 93 cobra upper and lower non ported intake so i was thinking of building it around that intake combo? ...or do i suck it up and go with a trick flow set up?

budget wise i really do not have one but i would like to do it right the first time.

like to hear from others on here on some good builds you have or had, it doesn't have to be the most expensive parts used but a nice street combo.

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Forget pre-packaged "kits" -

Gears - never fear the gear -

Long tube headers and some straight though or turbo style mufflers.

TFS TW FAC 170 heads with the correct valve springs.

Holley Systemax 2 intake.

Minimum 70mm throttle body.

Camshaft specced for "your" goals.




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^ Listen to this man, he knows his sh*t.
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Forget pre-packaged "kits" -

Gears - never fear the gear -

Long tube headers and some straight though or turbo style mufflers.

TFS TW FAC 170 heads with the correct valve springs.

Holley Systemax 2 intake.

Minimum 70mm throttle body.

Camshaft specced for "your" goals.



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Really listen to Ed he knows his stuff. There are a lot of opinions on what a street set up is. Ed will set you up right so that you will only have to do it one time.

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+1 to the straight through mufflers. Check out Jones max flow #1236 stainless steel and $35 a pop.
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Easy build and goal can be done very cheap and yes the combo above should easily get you there .every thing I have ever read about Mr Curtis on here says good things about him .I can't spit numbers I'm to cheap for the dyno. I use the 2 ditch method if it makes you see both before you get out of it its fun or you need better tires. if it doesn't you didn't do your math right
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I hate to sound like a leg humper, but I run one of Ed's cams, and just today I made three consecutive 9 second passes, got my last time slip, drove out the gate, onto the highway and 60 miles back home. This is with a glide, 3.08 gears, mostly 93 octane pump gas (spiked with a little 116 for safety), and at 3,350 lbs. I even got caught in a traffic jam on the ride home. Ed's cams certainly work well. BTW - I run hand ported TW 170 heads (opened up to ~185 cc's).
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thanks for the feed back on the build, and you cannot go wrong when someone who does custom cam grinds for a living gives you build info!

I had a FTI cam in a z06 I had some time back great cam and good people to work with.

now on to the part collection for a spring build.

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Yeah. Gears Yeah. But the heads are really where its at. The other stuff will just let the heads work. You will also loose some weight.

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Forget pre-packaged "kits" -

Gears - never fear the gear -

Long tube headers and some straight though or turbo style mufflers.

TFS TW FAC 170 heads with the correct valve springs.

Holley Systemax 2 intake.

Minimum 70mm throttle body.

Camshaft specced for "your" goals.


that's some good info

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Decent port work to your heads and intake.

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I hate to sound like a leg humper, but I run one of Ed's cams, and just today I made three consecutive 9 second passes, got my last time slip, drove out the gate, onto the highway and 60 miles back home. This is with a glide, 3.08 gears, mostly 93 octane pump gas (spiked with a little 116 for safety), and at 3,350 lbs. I even got caught in a traffic jam on the ride home. Ed's cams certainly work well. BTW - I run hand ported TW 170 heads (opened up to ~185 cc's).
Your running 9's in the QUARTER with 3.08:1 gears and a powerglide?!!!!!
If so...ED is magic!
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Your running 9's in the QUARTER with 3.08:1 gears and a powerglide?!!!!!
If so...ED is magic!
Nice ride!!
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This is what happens when you test/evolve/improve a combo that's designed to work together. Also what happens when LOTS of torque-via-boost is available to move the beast down the track.

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A-HA!!!!!.......Missed the part about "boost"!
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thank you everyone for the info and now off to build a new parts pile over the winter.

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Ed's parts will make over that 300 HP mark - if 300 to the tire is enough, you can use the Cobra intake and it will be cheaper.

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Thanks for the info tmoss, if I stay cobra intake I will send it out to you for port work on the lower.
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I just re read this thread and check the Holley website...systemax on sale now for $621 from their website...

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Forget pre-packaged "kits" -

Gears - never fear the gear -

Long tube headers and some straight though or turbo style mufflers.

TFS TW FAC 170 heads with the correct valve springs.

Holley Systemax 2 intake.

Minimum 70mm throttle body.

Camshaft specced for "your" goals.


Old and easy combo that has been track tested and time proven.

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Here is my current setup, made 290/327 at the wheels. It's a T5 car, all parts below were bought used here except the heads. Got those new through a vendor here at a great price. Car runs good and is a blast to drive.

Just be forewarned, you will get use to it and want more. When I did this combo I was in your exact boat. I'm currently building a 347 for more street fun.

TF TW 170 Heads
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