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Old 02-04-2012, 07:56 PM   #1
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Turbo cams for my 2v

Can someone tell me a good cam for my turbo set up? Stock pi engine. Anyone tried the rb cams from nick?

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What's your setup?
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04pi motor. As of now stage 2 na cams. But I hear those are no good with a turbo. On3 forward facing 70mm kit. Plan on about ten lbs of boost. T45 and 410 gears. Want to make as much power with the turbo as I am with the blower not. So I would like between 440-480hp when im done.

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You can hit 440-480 very easily with just the turbo. I've been hearing a lot of people running MMR turbo cams or MHS turbo cams.
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Yeah the reason im switching to turbo is I hate how high I have to spin the blower to reach full boost. Im reading that with my N/A cams that the turbo will spool slower.
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Ya the N/A cams won't do well in a turbo setup. If all you're looking to hit is 440-480hp I'd just get stage 1 turbo cams or if you want you can throw in stock cams and up the boost.

I'm not sure what cams you have now but with a turbo AND aftermarket cams you'll need valvesprings.
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Hitech stage 2 with stock valve springs now.
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Im lookin at MHS stage 2-2.5 turbo cams. I've heard great things about em and they're the only ones that ive seen that make a TFS head specific cam (i have the TFS 44cc heads) so that's my main choice.

For 440-480 id just do stage 1s...unless you're wantin to go up to around 600 in the future.
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I don't want to change springs so I think im gonna go with the mhs recession buster cams.

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With a turbo setup your going to need upgraded springs or you may end up getting valve float even with the stock cams. The power will fall off bigtime in the upper rpm when that happens.
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My car at 8-10psi .020 over dished, manley rods, cobra crank, stage 1 ported heads, upgraded springs, stock cams made 481hp.

Thinking I'll put mmr stage 2 cams in my teksid build... only thing that sucks is my tuner has my exact car and setup in a shop 2v at 20psi and he was just going to upload his tune in my car as a baseline and save me about $500 in tuning. With the cams I'll be starting from scratch.
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I ordered a set of recession buster cams from mhs.

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My car made over 600rw with stock cams.
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My car made over 600rw with stock cams.
On a application such as that with our MMR stage 3 turbo cams 670-680 would be pretty easy. Spool time is decreased and EGTs will also lower making the engine even safer.
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My setup at 20psi picked up 84rwhp with custom cams over the stockers without having to have notched pistons. My setup has no issue with spooling..
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ive got the mmr stage 3 cams, cnc ported heads, logan intake, cg fab hotside, and getting an a/w intercooler with 80mm turbo done now. it should make some good power. plus i dont want cams that sound like stock
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My setup at 20psi picked up 84rwhp with custom cams over the stockers without having to have notched pistons. My setup has no issue with spooling..
Some good info on your cams here <<
That was a good read. Good to know that their turbo cams are just blower cams re-labeled.
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That was a good read. Good to know that their turbo cams are just blower cams re-labeled.
This is 100% untrue - The person in that post simply stated the similarity of the splits on the cam, NOTHING ELSE - he also never installed them or tested them to prove otherwise, if you think that is good information - okay - but most would call that opinion based on nothing more than a similar spec on a cam card, 1 spec out of 12 other important specs to be exact. Its like saying I had a lottery ticket that matched 1 #- thats far from winning ! FACT -The MMR cams are completely different, different lift and different duration, different opening and closing times. We also guarantee our cams to make more power than any other turbo cam that we will give you your money back should you find a cam that does. We have spent 100's of hours on the dyno perfecting every Turbo cam we sell, the cams that we sell today are very different than even that of 2 years ago because we keep developing and improving on them.

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Do people really go through the effort of installing different turbo cams, pay for the dyno time and spend the hours needed to install different turbo cams just to find out which makes the most power? I find it funny how you guys guarantee your cams make the most power. Quite the claim you guys are making.

Plus with a customer saying the specs are that of blower cams I would have to assume he's right. Especially since he's willing to send you the specs to prove it. Plus the fact you guys don't share your specs to prove them wrong.

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I think you mis-understood, the customer "claimed" they were similar -not the same, we do not know which cams he compared them to so it is clearly difficult to address. In regards to our guarantee, it is present because we are confident in our cams, after all, most of the worlds quickest Modulars use them.

At the end of the day the camshaft choice is your own, if you feel another companies background in turbocharging the Modular engine is better/more than ours you are welcome to use them and we are here to argue with no one.

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id just like to see a 2v car with bullet cams running around with over 1000whp, or one in the 8's @160+. I know about two different cars with the MMR cams doing both. All the Bullet cam cars I see are in the 10's @130s or making up to around 700whp....
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id just like to see a 2v car with bullet cams running around with over 1000whp, or one in the 8's @160+. I know about two different cars with the MMR cams doing both. All the Bullet cam cars I see are in the 10's @130s or making up to around 700whp....
Make it happen lol
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so you know 2 cars of the hundreds running nasty numbers and times in a 2v?

i have never seen anybody dyno with or run with mmr cams in a 2v besides that old ass fast inntentions car......

by the way the fastest 2v lightnings are running bullet cams and are in the 8s

you would be suprised how many fast 2v's are out there that dont post vids

hell triangle speed shops 2v gt went 8.60s or some #### not even on full tilt..(bullet spec'd cams)

and the majority of the 4v cobra guys running nasty times(and still driven on street) are running cams cut and spec'd by bullet(and the shop im sure)

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only thing mmr has to prove their cams are their OWN race cars that have alot of different factors...

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What a pissing match I started. Let's take it one step further and argue about engine oil too lol! Valvoline is da best!

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From someone that tried them. Wonder if he got his money back.
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MMR cams are pretty good. But i would call bullet cams or MHS (modular head shop) they seem to be on top if im not mistaken for turbo cars... I know that i picked up Hp and spool time switching from MMR stg2 cams to bullet stg 2.5 turbo cams. only thing i miss is the sound of the MMR cams miss the lope / choppy sound i had.
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i have never seen anybody dyno with or run with mmr cams in a 2v besides that old ass fast inntentions car......
Well, here is another one, dyno sheets too, this may even be one of the highest HP 2V's in the world let us know if you would like more:

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Here is another

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From someone that tried them. Wonder if he got his money back.
Bottom line is if this was really a back to back on the same dyno with only the cam change (not likely), and the combo made more power the real answer is it should have made more power, it was a larger cam (a MMR stage 2 to a XXX brand Stage 2.5) !!

Had it been only the cams changed this post might have held water. Interesting that there are also no other facts, ie how much more HP did he make, where is his before and after dyno showing just the cam swap . We are very interested, if not just to make our product better if this really is true (we cant even find a member here called "ultraspeed") is this post on another forum?

Had it been a fair comparison (same cam stage, engine, dyno and tune) we would have gladly refunded his money if he asked, turns out this person never even contacted us.....its clear why.

Maybe our guarantee should read " We guarantee our cams to make more power than our competition when comparing the same stage" LOL!
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Do you have before and after graphs of any 2v 4.6 setups?
The sound the mmr's make is really nice. It reminds me of what my car sounded like when it was n/a with comp 270 cams.
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Well, here is another one, dyno sheets too, this may even be one of the highest HP 2V's in the world let us know if you would like more:

1040rwhp/992rwtq Twin Turbo... *Videos and Dyno Graph*

Here is another one running on youtube :

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Here is another mmr 4.75 stroker turbo mustang gt - YouTube

Let us know if you need to see more, we dont make this stuff up! We have put alot of time and effort into our cams, this is why they work, this is why they sell.
like i stated you dont know how many people have big hp cars that dont post stuff on the internet...by the way my friends lightning makes 1100rwhp..

another psi lightning that had a pt88 made over 1000rwhp also


also i know they have idle videos on youtube that doesnt mean anything i meant acutally running around with your cams(playing on the street,dyno vids of car with your cams,running at the track thats not one of yall race cars)...you claim to have the best turbo cams but never did back to back testing with dyno charts to prove...also just like yall claim to have the best ported heads but yall dont even have flow charts on any of them with no back to back testing...


will post links to lightnings when i get a chance to show proof if you would like



and btw stages of cams mean nothing...your stage 2 cams are as big as people stage 3 blower cams lol

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and btw stages of cams mean nothing...your stage 2 cams are as big as people stage 3 blower cams lol
But that's how they're able to guarantee their stage 2 cams will make more power than all the other stage 2 cams

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When I get my car back together I'll test the cams back to back. Same mods, boost level, tune, dyno, everything. Mmr stage 3's vs mhs stage 3's. It should end the debate. If the mhs cams make more power I want my money back. I have faith in them though
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Without knowing the specs of the MMR cams I think it's a waste of time to do the work of swapping cams twice just to see which makes more power.

For example, MHS Stage 1 turbo cams are 217/213. MMR could easily make their stage 1 cams 222/218 which is MHS Stage 2 turbo cams. So their claim of making more power than anyone else's cams is true. It's a cheap marketing scheme and sad people won't realize it before buying their cams.

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Old 02-14-2012, 05:40 PM   #34
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Mine weren't any "stage" but they are bigger than MHS's stage 3. My piston are not notched and I don't have ptv issues.
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Well if one set of cams makes 50-100 more HP then it could be easily worth doing. I just want the best cams for it without the car sounding like stock. Your making it seem like bigger cams is always going to make more power. What theyre saying is just the opposite. One side saying saying bigger cams are going to make more power and one side saying the smaller cams are going to make the most power. MMR has higher lift and smaller duration on the intake side with bigger duration on the exhaust side. MHS has lower lift and bigger duration on the intake side with smaller duration on the exhaust side. I like the MMRs chances because to me it makes sense. I dont know as much about cams but I do know that a turbo is spooled using the exhaust, not the intake
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