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fapperDan · 02-19-2009, 11:03 PM

Can I use a powerstroke turbo,1to1 on a 351 with good results? I did a search and didnt really find anything out. looking to run 10 psi.

snipe656 · 02-20-2009, 09:54 AM

I have seen people use the turbos off the 7.3 on 302 motors and have decent results even though everyone told them it would not work out at all. I do not know anything about the turbos but to say if they would be okay on a 351 or not.

assasinator · 02-21-2009, 10:28 PM

i would say a 351 is too big of a motor for a 7.3turbo.

i dont have the compressor map here in front of me, but i know it is barely large enough for 5 liters. in reality it isnt big enough for 5.0l at higher revs.

the compressor is only a .54 trim.

really for gas its best for a 4 liter or smaller. it gets away with 7.3 diesel because a 7.3 revs low.
i look at it for a 4.6 but it requires low revs or 12 psi for any efficiency.

assasinator · 02-21-2009, 10:30 PM

now there is a version that WILL work for 5.0l. if you buy one and add the 'wicked wheel". its a much higher flow wheel but is very noisy.

smurfmobile8586 · 02-21-2009, 10:34 PM

noisey as in a good turbo sound or like crap??

scotng · 02-21-2009, 10:51 PM

Find out and I've got a brand new 7.3 turbo that I'd be willing to let go.

fapperDan · 02-21-2009, 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scotng

Find out and I've got a brand new 7.3 turbo that I'd be willing to let go.

I have one that's why I was asking.

oldbugs · 02-22-2009, 12:35 AM

The "wicked wheel" offers NO performance gains over the stock one. It only helps with the surging you get when towing heavy loads and it is a bit louder than the stock wheel. Combine the wicked wheel with an ATS ported housing and you'll need a good set of ear plugs

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goatnipples2002 · 02-23-2009, 04:13 AM

Hey I have 2 of the tp38s or 7.3l turbos.

I love the TP38 (powerstroke turbo) because it has great support, just not for custom installs. How loud is the ats housing and the "WW"? Have you been on the powerstroke forums?

BAERSysteMAX · 02-23-2009, 12:56 PM

remember, if you choose one of these turbos, your hotside piping will need to be changed in order to accommodate a larger turbo in the future. if it were me id go with a mp-70 or 76 if you are on the cheap. either that or a precision 76gtsh. like i said what you have should work, but when you want more, its a lot more involved. stick with a standard t4 footprint and you have a LOT of possibilities

goatnipples2002 · 02-23-2009, 04:52 PM

What are you talking about my tp38 has a T4 flange. Why would you need to change your hotpiping? Maybe the downpipe flange, but that's about it. I will admit that these turbos would not be my 1st choice just because of the oil line setup. The wicked wheel is SUPPOSED to add something or other, but???

fapperDan · 02-23-2009, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAERSysteMAX

remember, if you choose one of these turbos, your hotside piping will need to be changed in order to accommodate a larger turbo in the future. if it were me id go with a mp-70 or 76 if you are on the cheap. either that or a precision 76gtsh. like i said what you have should work, but when you want more, its a lot more involved. stick with a standard t4 footprint and you have a LOT of possibilities

I want to use it because I already have it. no need to spend money if I don't need to.

BAERSysteMAX · 02-23-2009, 08:28 PM

then go for it ! go to the theturboforums.com and search about it. plenty of people making about 500 horse with them.

fapperDan · 02-23-2009, 08:36 PM

I have searched there. All i found was 'can I use this, can I use that'. Probably will just gotta wait till winter comes again.

BAERSysteMAX · 02-23-2009, 10:17 PM

keyword: powerstroke turbo

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=51289.0

http://www.turbomustangs.com/smf/ind...?topic=47900.0

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=14301.0

91GTman · 02-23-2009, 10:49 PM

I believe the 7.3L turbos are Garrett GT3776s. check out http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...6_452159_1.htm for a compressor map

fapperDan · 02-23-2009, 11:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BAERSysteMAX

keyword: powerstroke turbo

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=51289.0

http://www.turbomustangs.com/smf/ind...?topic=47900.0

http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=14301.0

That last one had some goodinfo in it. Thanks!

goatnipples2002 · 02-24-2009, 01:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91GTman

I believe the 7.3L turbos are Garrett GT3776s. check out http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...6_452159_1.htm for a compressor map

They are called TP38 for the 94-97.5 and GTP38 99+.

91GTman · 03-07-2009, 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goatnipples2002

They are called TP38 for the 94-97.5 and GTP38R 99+. Just search on the diesel forums...please don't guess some people take the net as the gospel.

That was no guess.

Both pre 97' and post 97' 7.3L engines are the same as an International
T444E. International actually made Ford's pickup and commercial diesel engines.

International did use TP3801 turbos on 94-97 and the GTP38(not the GTP38R ball bearing turbo) AND the GT3776D on the post 97'-VNT, as well as the
TC4305 on pre 94's.

I was simply trying to give him a compressor map so he could make his own decision. The GT3776 is the only readily available map I know of for the powerstrokes.

stangman308, if you have a part number off your turbo(should look something like this...1825155C92), I can cross reference it to a Garrett supplier number and tell you exactly what model turbo you have.

Here is a link to an International engine parts guide so you can see for yourself...http://www.thedieselstop.com/faq/949...renceGuide.pdf

goatnipples2002 · 03-08-2009, 08:55 AM

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fapperDan · 03-09-2009, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 91GTman

That was no guess.

Both pre 97' and post 97' 7.3L engines are the same as an International
T444E. International actually made Ford's pickup and commercial diesel engines.

International did use TP3801 turbos on 94-97 and the GTP38(not the GTP38R ball bearing turbo) AND the GT3776D on the post 97'-VNT, as well as the
TC4305 on pre 94's.

I was simply trying to give him a compressor map so he could make his own decision. The GT3776 is the only readily available map I know of for the powerstrokes.

stangman308, if you have a part number off your turbo(should look something like this...1825155C92), I can cross reference it to a Garrett supplier number and tell you exactly what model turbo you have.

Here is a link to an International engine parts guide so you can see for yourself...http://www.thedieselstop.com/faq/949...renceGuide.pdf

It is off a 97. I'll look at the # next time I'm out in the garage.

fapperDan · 03-23-2009, 12:51 AM

I have 2 power stroke turbo's
1.... 1.10 A/R p#991966C91
2.... 1.00 A/R p#383CGL19113

02-19-2009, 11:03 PM	#1
fapperDan Blame Canada!!!!!! Trader Feedback: (44) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: dba's mom's snatch Posts: 7,555	Powerstroke turbo Can I use a powerstroke turbo,1to1 on a 351 with good results? I did a search and didnt really find anything out. looking to run 10 psi. __________________ Banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Canada loves me this I know, Cause the "Don" tells me so! Tumbleweeds we sell all day long, Ghost towns are coming so stay strong!

02-20-2009, 09:54 AM	#2
snipe656 Turbo Wizard Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, Tx, USA Posts: 4,238	I have seen people use the turbos off the 7.3 on 302 motors and have decent results even though everyone told them it would not work out at all. I do not know anything about the turbos but to say if they would be okay on a 351 or not. __________________ --Aaron Rouse http://www.happyhacker.com/ 2003 F250 PSD - Daily driven "rod knocker" 2009 335d - Backup "rod knocker" 1985 300SD - Money pit "rod knocker"

02-21-2009, 10:30 PM	#4
assasinator Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TN Posts: 841	now there is a version that WILL work for 5.0l. if you buy one and add the 'wicked wheel". its a much higher flow wheel but is very noisy. __________________ 96 mustang GT-93 teksid 4v forged: ported heads, kellogg crank, billet i-beams, CP forged pistons, 9.4:1, BIG turbo, 4x28x12 fmic, big boost. 2011 GT 300A, 3.73, M6, spoiler delete, brembos

02-21-2009, 10:34 PM	#5
smurfmobile8586 Registered User Trader Feedback: (7) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Tenn Posts: 2,641	noisey as in a good turbo sound or like crap?? __________________

02-23-2009, 12:56 PM	#10
BAERSysteMAX Registered User Trader Feedback: (32) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: A car or two in front of you.... CT Posts: 899	remember, if you choose one of these turbos, your hotside piping will need to be changed in order to accommodate a larger turbo in the future. if it were me id go with a mp-70 or 76 if you are on the cheap. either that or a precision 76gtsh. like i said what you have should work, but when you want more, its a lot more involved. stick with a standard t4 footprint and you have a LOT of possibilities __________________ 90 lx 5 speed... 10.5 @ 136 stock bottom end and cam... ford junk ! 86 gt ttop 90 coupe 9.92 turbo pump gas street car

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02-21-2009, 10:28 PM	#3
assasinator Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TN Posts: 841	i would say a 351 is too big of a motor for a 7.3turbo. i dont have the compressor map here in front of me, but i know it is barely large enough for 5 liters. in reality it isnt big enough for 5.0l at higher revs. the compressor is only a .54 trim. really for gas its best for a 4 liter or smaller. it gets away with 7.3 diesel because a 7.3 revs low. i look at it for a 4.6 but it requires low revs or 12 psi for any efficiency. __________________ 96 mustang GT-93 teksid 4v forged: ported heads, kellogg crank, billet i-beams, CP forged pistons, 9.4:1, BIG turbo, 4x28x12 fmic, big boost. 2011 GT 300A, 3.73, M6, spoiler delete, brembos

02-21-2009, 10:51 PM	#6
scotng Registered User Trader Feedback: (33) Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Mt. Washington, Ky Posts: 964	Find out and I've got a brand new 7.3 turbo that I'd be willing to let go.

02-22-2009, 12:35 AM	#8
oldbugs Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Deerfield Bch. FL Posts: 244	The "wicked wheel" offers NO performance gains over the stock one. It only helps with the surging you get when towing heavy loads and it is a bit louder than the stock wheel. Combine the wicked wheel with an ATS ported housing and you'll need a good set of ear plugs .

02-23-2009, 04:13 AM	#9
goatnipples2002 Registered User Trader Feedback: (15) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bellevue, Ne. Posts: 2,154	Hey I have 2 of the tp38s or 7.3l turbos. I love the TP38 (powerstroke turbo) because it has great support, just not for custom installs. How loud is the ats housing and the "WW"? Have you been on the powerstroke forums? __________________ 94 Mustang GT MS1 and a Turbo Keep motors alive, drive on E85. Last edited by goatnipples2002; 02-23-2009 at 05:08 PM.

02-23-2009, 04:52 PM	#11
goatnipples2002 Registered User Trader Feedback: (15) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bellevue, Ne. Posts: 2,154	What are you talking about my tp38 has a T4 flange. Why would you need to change your hotpiping? Maybe the downpipe flange, but that's about it. I will admit that these turbos would not be my 1st choice just because of the oil line setup. The wicked wheel is SUPPOSED to add something or other, but??? __________________ 94 Mustang GT MS1 and a Turbo Keep motors alive, drive on E85. Last edited by goatnipples2002; 02-23-2009 at 05:19 PM.

02-23-2009, 08:28 PM	#13
BAERSysteMAX Registered User Trader Feedback: (32) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: A car or two in front of you.... CT Posts: 899	then go for it ! go to the theturboforums.com and search about it. plenty of people making about 500 horse with them. __________________ 90 lx 5 speed... 10.5 @ 136 stock bottom end and cam... ford junk ! 86 gt ttop 90 coupe 9.92 turbo pump gas street car

02-23-2009, 08:36 PM	#14
fapperDan Blame Canada!!!!!! Trader Feedback: (44) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: dba's mom's snatch Posts: 7,555	I have searched there. All i found was 'can I use this, can I use that'. Probably will just gotta wait till winter comes again. __________________ Banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Canada loves me this I know, Cause the "Don" tells me so! Tumbleweeds we sell all day long, Ghost towns are coming so stay strong!

02-23-2009, 10:17 PM	#15
BAERSysteMAX Registered User Trader Feedback: (32) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: A car or two in front of you.... CT Posts: 899	keyword: powerstroke turbo http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=51289.0 http://www.turbomustangs.com/smf/ind...?topic=47900.0 http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...?topic=14301.0 __________________ 90 lx 5 speed... 10.5 @ 136 stock bottom end and cam... ford junk ! 86 gt ttop 90 coupe 9.92 turbo pump gas street car

02-23-2009, 10:49 PM	#16
91GTman Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Wilmington, NC Posts: 114	I believe the 7.3L turbos are Garrett GT3776s. check out http://www.turbobygarrett.com/turbob...6_452159_1.htm for a compressor map __________________ 91 GT 306 5sp RPMs,F303,Spyder, DIY GT4294 Turbo, Tweecer RT, PLX-300, BE, EA Old setup 125 SHOT Best 60'=1.51 1/4 mi.=11.320@121

03-08-2009, 08:55 AM	#20
goatnipples2002 Registered User Trader Feedback: (15) Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Bellevue, Ne. Posts: 2,154	! __________________ 94 Mustang GT MS1 and a Turbo Keep motors alive, drive on E85. Last edited by goatnipples2002; 03-17-2009 at 05:05 PM.

03-23-2009, 12:51 AM	#22
fapperDan Blame Canada!!!!!! Trader Feedback: (44) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: dba's mom's snatch Posts: 7,555	I have 2 power stroke turbo's 1.... 1.10 A/R p#991966C91 2.... 1.00 A/R p#383CGL19113 __________________ Banned!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Canada loves me this I know, Cause the "Don" tells me so! Tumbleweeds we sell all day long, Ghost towns are coming so stay strong!

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