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Old 01-06-2009, 10:19 AM   #1
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on 3 performance turbo kit 5.0

since the other thread is way off subject, can we get some reviews personal experience with this kit, is it good or bad, whats the pros and cons of it.. is it worth the buy or go with a well named kit?
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theres one recently started on tm as well.. http://www.theturboforums.com/smf/in...;boardseen#new
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there are specific people that post to just get things off topic and accomplished what they tried.
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ramsey was doing a complete write up on the install of his car on there as well and its under control. He didnt start installing yet but he said sometime this month when he gets time so should start getting other photos from what he said
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ramsey was doing a complete write up on the install of his car on there as well and its under control. He didnt start installing yet but he said sometime this month when he gets time so should start getting other photos from what he said
mine went on fine. i have to get 1 a/c line custom built.
i did not even do the oilfilter relocation. i run the small motorcraft filter.
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do you mind sharing what filter part number you used?
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do you mind sharing what filter part number you used?
i am going over to the shop tonight and i will get it for u.
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Thanks man, That'll help us shave cost on our own build.
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I'm pretty sure its an FL400s filter
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Thanks man, That'll help us shave cost on our own build.
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Im wanting to run this kit also but im new to the turbo scene. I have a UPR k member and dont know if it'll fit or not. Or if i'll have to buy a blow through MAF since i already have a draw through.
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it will fit with that k-member
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it will fit with that k-member
Thanks, are you running one of their kits? If so, how was the quality?
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Thanks, are you running one of their kits? If so, how was the quality?
yes i have there kit.. the kit is nice. i just got it going in the last week.
i bought mine with 76mm turbo.
my 306 dynoed 612 to the wheels.
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yes i have there kit.. the kit is nice. i just got it going in the last week.
i bought mine with 76mm turbo.
my 306 dynoed 612 to the wheels.
Dang, thats some good numbers.
Will I need to upgrade anything on it? Any reason why you went with the bigger turbo? How does it sound?
Im just lookin for a well performing turbo that sounds mean.
Im new to turbos so I dont know that much
I know a pretty good bit for my age but I have alot to learn.
My Novi 1000 is pretty straight forward and gets the job done but I
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Dang, thats some good numbers.
Will I need to upgrade anything on it? Any reason why you went with the bigger turbo? How does it sound?
Im just lookin for a well performing turbo that sounds mean.
Im new to turbos so I dont know that much
I know a pretty good bit for my age but I have alot to learn.
My Novi 1000 is pretty straight forward and gets the job done but I
just want something different
i went with bigger turbo to make more power..

it sounds ok. i have a 3in magnaflow Y'ed into 2.5 in tailpipes.
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i went with bigger turbo to make more power..

it sounds ok. i have a 3in magnaflow Y'ed into 2.5 in tailpipes.
Oh, did you use a blow through or draw through MAF? or is yours speed density?
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Oh, did you use a blow through or draw through MAF? or is yours speed density?
i have a fast efi..speed density
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i have a fast efi..speed density
ahh. is it possible to run a draw through with that kit?
sorry for the random questions man.
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Im NOT trying to get off topic like the other thread did but I have to say... STAY AWAY from SS 304 !!!!!!

I have SS 304 ebay headers and I faild to believe all the hype.... now Im pulling them off evey other month to have them welded up where they crack !!

Kit looks great, fit great, and held up for 1.5 years before the cracking started.

Now its time to buy something different cuz Im tired of pulling them off to be welded lol
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There is nothing wrong with using 302 stainless so long as it is done right. 304 stainless is what Turbo Technology has used for well over a decade and you can find 10+ year old very used kits out there with zero cracking issues. Turbo Engineering, were George who owns Turbo Technology came from, also used 304 stainless and you can find those kits still to this day and no cracking issues. There are other companies as well but those two are great examples of how it can be used and it can work out just great simply because their kits have been in use for so many years.
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Oh yea, did you have to cut or modify anything to make it fit?
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Oh yea, did you have to cut or modify anything to make it fit?
i had to trim my lx nose a lil.
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Crud, typo above, meant 304 not 302
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Im wanting to run this kit also but im new to the turbo scene. I have a UPR k member and dont know if it'll fit or not. Or if i'll have to buy a blow through MAF since i already have a draw through.
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It would fit for sure, it fits with the stock k-member so the tubular setup will only have more clearance
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There is nothing wrong with using 302 stainless so long as it is done right. 304 stainless is what Turbo Technology has used for well over a decade and you can find 10+ year old very used kits out there with zero cracking issues. Turbo Engineering, were George who owns Turbo Technology came from, also used 304 stainless and you can find those kits still to this day and no cracking issues. There are other companies as well but those two are great examples of how it can be used and it can work out just great simply because their kits have been in use for so many years.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe Turbo Technology used 304 stainless in their manifolds...not their headers. There is a huge difference in regards to fatigue. 304 is not meant for extreme high temps with constant heat cycles....which is why you see it used in countertops at restaurants and in kitchen sinks. It's possible to design a 304 header that can withstand the heat, but it's going to take some kick ass welding (tig, back purging with an inert gas) along with engineering. Supporting a turbo with the expansion factor seen in basic 304 is tough...which is quite often why you seem to see so many cracked tubular headers.
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe Turbo Technology used 304 stainless in their manifolds...not their headers. There is a huge difference in regards to fatigue. 304 is not meant for extreme high temps with constant heat cycles....which is why you see it used in countertops at restaurants and in kitchen sinks. It's possible to design a 304 header that can withstand the heat, but it's going to take some kick ass welding (tig, back purging with an inert gas) along with engineering. Supporting a turbo with the expansion factor seen in basic 304 is tough...which is quite often why you seem to see so many cracked tubular headers.
They use it in their headers, look at any TTI single race kit since that is the most common kit they have sold for Fox bodies and it uses a header not a manifold. Turbotime PSI uses 304 some as well although I think they tend to lean towards using 321 if at all possible($ being the factor).
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They use it in their headers, look at any TTI single race kit since that is the most common kit they have sold for Fox bodies and it uses a header not a manifold. Turbotime PSI uses 304 some as well although I think they tend to lean towards using 321 if at all possible($ being the factor).
I believe they are tubular log manifolds with a massive diameter, single tube supporting the mass of the turbo.

As for turbotime psi, their designs are completely different….as they are basically hanging down low rather than up high. The turbo’s themselves do not appear to be wholly supported by the lone header, but rather the entire hot side. They also appear to have an intermediate connector between the header, turbo and cross-over. It appears to be a well thought out kit, that’s for sure.

There is one caveat however….as it does not appear to be offered in 304 stainless anymore… “Available in mild steel, or military grade 321 stainless, .065 wall, annealed, backgassed”.
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You believe wrong, the TTI race kit does not use a log manifold. Here is a picture if you need visual proof:

http://www.turbotechnologyinc.com/si.../50_single.jpg

I talk to the owner of Turbotime quite often and you can get them in 304. The overall design he is using is similar to the Turbo Engineering kits I mentioned earlier and those were 304 as well.
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and back to the thread topic...
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There is nothing wrong with using 302 stainless so long as it is done right. 304 stainless is what Turbo Technology has used for well over a decade and you can find 10+ year old very used kits out there with zero cracking issues. Turbo Engineering, were George who owns Turbo Technology came from, also used 304 stainless and you can find those kits still to this day and no cracking issues. There are other companies as well but those two are great examples of how it can be used and it can work out just great simply because their kits have been in use for so many years.


very very true. !! I will have to change it to ...

stay away from EBAY SS 304 headers !! LOL


IF its done RIGHT they will NOT crack however inorder to do something RIGHT it allways costs more. On3 has allready admited to sending them out (but wont say where) to be made/welded to get the best possible price. Im NOT bashing on3 its just what I have found in the threads related to his kits that I have read. I doubt who ever he sends them to does as good of a job as george/tti ect.... after all they are the lowest bidder on the job lol

Im NOT expert by far thats for sure but the "quality" looks exactly like the treadstone/vecco headers which I have cracking all to hell right now as we speek lol lol
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