Well where did truthseeker go?
Anyway, it looks like the subject of the thread turned into something else but if he would like to know
1998 Saleen S281 Mustang 230 h.p. crank
1998 Ford Mustang GT 225 h.p. crank
1998 Cobra 305 h.p. crank
1999 Ford Mustang 260 h.p. crank
The truth is (no pun intended)
is that about 3/4 of the "Saleen Mustangs" everyone sees out there are Saleen clones. Truth, are you sure you raced a 98 Saleen, clone or ??? Same tailights 96-98. Like Bryan Rogers said earlier he worked at Saleen at the time and the N/A S281 Saleen Mustang recieved little in mods that would affect horsepower. The same can be said for ALL of the N/A Saleen mustangs up until today. Today they get a "powerflashed" processor and some pullies, but that's it save for the K/N and some aftermarket Borlas or Magnaflows.
With that said, TruthSeeker I hope you spanked that Saleen (even if it was a real Saleen Mustang) especially with your mods, gears and factory h.p.
The factory supercharged cars were brand new (roots style) for Saleen in 98 and few recieved them. 1999 was the big year for Saleen's blown car which still was a measly 350 h.p. but it came with a warranty from Ford remember. (Don't even get me started about Saleen customer service) that's another thread.
Anyway, like I said before there are more Saleen clones around than "real" Saleen mustangs and that's fine with me. Without Saleen's aftermarket parts business he would be a nobody. As for me, I consider my S351 R-code a bit on the slow side with 498 h.p. rear wheel (dyno jet). That is a factory supercharged car with $1,450 in mods. I did not buy my S351 new, but I do have the window sticker that says $58,000. That was an expensive Mustang no matter how you put it then or now. The fact is I'm a bit older than most of the fellows on here (in my mid 30's). I bought my first Saleen Mustang and 89 hatch back then and the Saleen had NO motor mods (with the exception of the SSC cars). That was a while back and yes the Saleen was more money than a GT then also, but this was before the HUGE 5.0 craze really started to crank up so being able to buy a Mustang off the showroom floor that could handle great was huge back then. Nowadays, almost every 4 door sport sedan handles great, but then the Saleen Mustang was way ahead of its time as far as how it handled.
As for a Saleen Mustang being a lousy bang for your buck or way overpriced, I guess it's who you really ask. Most guys like myself, that own a Saleen Mustang don't care too much about any of the issues related to bang for buck or how fast you can go for cheap. There is nothing wrong with a clone either. This is a free country. It is a product that I have been familiar with for quite a while and keeps me interested in Mustangs in general and I hope it does for many years to come.
Like BIZZY said an S351 is a torque monster (anyone with a 347 or a 351W in their cars can attest) but if you really add EVERYTHING that my car came with it does add up quick. How many cars come from the factory with a S-trim, magnesium wheels, Recaro interior, carbon fiber hood,Alcon brakes etc, etc. When i bought my car (used with 4,600 miles on it) it really ends up being quite a bargain.
So to get back to the original question I hope the numbers at the beginning of my post help out. You would know if you raced an S351. Trust me.