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Old 01-03-2012, 10:14 PM   #1
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Valve cover breather

What are you guys using for a breather filter on your valve cover? I put the kn push in but it keeps blowing off. What is your setup? I have the tall ford racing valve covers. I'm running 10lbs of boost
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I have a breather on my driverside VC, the pcv valve is in a grommet on the passenger side VC ( because i have efi spyder intake) and a oil seperator tied into the pcv valve. It works good, but recently noticed some oil coming out of the breather. When i ran my track heat intake i didnt have this problem but i will be connecting both valve covers into the catch can to fix it.
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Catch can is the best way. One -12 AN bung on each VC to the can...



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Catch can is the best way. One -12 AN bung on each VC to the can...



What catch can is that? Thats the exact setup i want to go to.
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Another boost/catch can/oil leak question

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allstar catch cans same design as fiveliterfox

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What catch can is that? Thats the exact setup i want to go to.
It's a Moroso catch can. Part # 85465. It has one -12AN inlet.

I bought an extra -12 male bung from Summit when I ordered it and welded it onto the tank. There aren't any tanks out there that come with two -12AN bungs.

Here is a screen shot of the order I placed from Summit. These are all the parts necessary to complete the setup I have pictured. Note that you will need (2) each of the -12 90 degree a n d straight hose ends, so 4 hose ends total.

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Where are you putting oli in at? That small hole?
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Where are you putting oli in at? That small hole?
Unscrew one of the fittings from the VC, stick a funnel in the bung hole (lol) and pour it in. Takes no longer than normal to fill.
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Where are you putting oli in at? That small hole?
i put a push in style plug in the rear of my valve cover on pass side


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Does anyone know if die cast aluminum can be tig welded? My ford racing valve covers are die cast aluminum.
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Does anyone know if die cast aluminum can be tig welded? My ford racing valve covers are die cast aluminum.
Sure can.
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Goood to know !
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Do you guys get oil smell/vapors into the car, or under the hood running a regular ole catchcan? The vacuum pump made my catchcan a mess on the Z06 I had for a short time, ESPECIALLY in really cold weather, and I always wondered if just a catchcan with no crankcase evac system would do the same thing.
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Do you guys get oil smell/vapors into the car, or under the hood running a regular ole catchcan? The vacuum pump made my catchcan a mess on the Z06 I had for a short time, ESPECIALLY in really cold weather, and I always wondered if just a catchcan with no crankcase evac system would do the same thing.
i do not have any smells with mine
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i do not have any smells with mine
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so where do you get those push-in style plugs from? Im going to need two of them.
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Jeremy, Do you have the PCV valve Blocked or are you still running one with a checkvalve?
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Jeremy, Do you have the PCV valve Blocked or are you still running one with a checkvalve?
I have it blocked off now. Basically creates a vacuum leak otherwise.
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I have it blocked off now. Basically creates a vacuum leak otherwise.
Can you explain Please. ?
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Can you explain Please. ?
Sure.

By having an open PCV, either the way I have it setup, or having breathers mounted on the VC, which are both the same idea, you are introducing unmetered air into the crankcase. That is to say that it hasn't been through the MAF, and therefore the computer hasn't compensated for it by adjusting fuel etc...

Now this unmetered air is in the crankcase. The factory PCV, located at the back of the lower intake, draws pressure from the crankcase, which now contains un-metered air, and carries it into the intake manifold, creating a vacuum leak.

It's a vacuum leak in a non-traditional sense, but the fact is that you are pulling air into the motor that "shouldn't" be there, according to the computer. Same as pulling a vacuum hose off of the intake, although not necessarily to the same scale.
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What are you guys blocking the pcv off with? Mine has a hose running to upper intake.
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Expandable rubber freeze plug here.........
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I put the PVC valve back in and capped it off with a rubber plug. No issues.
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How can I add a catch can without AN fittings? I have Ford Racing wrinkle VCs.
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Correct me if I am wrong but with the remote mount reservoir you still have a vacuum leak because of the filter on top. No different than running a breather on the valve cover, just not dripping oil on the headers.
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Correct me if I am wrong but with the remote mount reservoir you still have a vacuum leak because of the filter on top. No different than running a breather on the valve cover, just not dripping oil on the headers.
Remote has nothing to do with it. If you remove the PCV hose from the lower intake to upper intake, there's no way for the crankcase air to get in to the engine. It will only re-circulate within the crankcase, which has nothing to do with AF ratio or vacuum leaks.
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Yep, lapse of conscious thinking. Thanks
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Yep, lapse of conscious thinking. Thanks
No prob. Trust me, I had to sit and visualize the whole concept for a while before I understood it. It's simple but sounds complicated.
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I read so many different things on this and I'm confused.

If you run breathers on both valve covers (as I am) and remove hose connecting the PVC hole to the upper intake......

Can you put a breather in place of the PVC valve?
If not do you plug the PVC hole?

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I read so many different things on this and I'm confused.

If you run breathers on both valve covers (as I am) and remove hose connecting the PVC hole to the upper intake......

Can you put a breather in place of the PVC valve?
If not do you plug the PVC hole?
Yes!

All three locations are connected. They will be doing the same thing. However, you might get the breather oil soaked in the lower intake pretty easy.
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ok so heres my question now, im going to be doing a similar set-up as FiveLiterFox did on his ride. I currently have a breather on my driverside VC and a pcv valve in my passenger side VC thats tied into a oil seperator, Being that i have 2 holes in my valve covers i would need to get a new set or find a way to plug those two holes correct?

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I have the oil sperator tied intot he pcv valve which sits in the passenger side vc behind the elbow. The seperator is behind the passenger strut tower hidden lol.
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If your doing the system like FiveLiterFox then I would recommend using bulkhead fittings in your valve covers so you don't have to get new ones and then just attach your an fittings to them. Welding is kinda out as it will ruin the finish for sure. Just make sure to use some loctite on the nut for the bulkhead fitting and all will be good.
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If your doing the system like FiveLiterFox then I would recommend using bulkhead fittings in your valve covers so you don't have to get new ones and then just attach your an fittings to them. Welding is kinda out as it will ruin the finish for sure. Just make sure to use some loctite on the nut for the bulkhead fitting and all will be good.
I don't think I would trust loctite alone. Strike the threads once the nut is on to lock it or even better tack weld the nut or drill a hole through the nut and bulk head to cotter pin it so it cannot rotate. Too much risk if that nut comes loose.
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