Autocross video from last Sunday

[2k2GT]

Hopefully with the new MM Bilsteins it'll have a lil less lean and dive. This was a helluva course, I loved it.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/f...0001617887.htm

[89cobranotch]

looks like a real fun course!!

cant wait to do some of that this summer! havnt done anything like that yet and cant wait!!

[Moving Target]

Now that's what I call hauling some ass. Looked like a very fun course. How the hell did your car go through those slaloms so fast? My car would have swapped ends after the second transition at those speeds.

*edit*
The two comments left on streetfire are funny considering the mods you've done to the car.

[2k2GT]

Yea, I read the comments.....geez. Can't blame the non-informed, I guess. I probably would've said the same thing if I still had my Integra.

That slalom was pretty sweet, that region usually has some kickass slaloms. I don't think my car can attack them great, but I sure like doing them! I think a kinda/sorta plus to them is that I did those in 3rd gear(car has a 4.10 gear). Without being real high in the RPM's in 2nd, I think it allows me to be more aggressive through them.

[MFE]

That's hauling balls.

As for streetfire...it's the biggest collection of ####-tards the web has EVER seen.

[2k2GT]

Thanks MFE.......means alot to me. I really have this section of the CORRAL to thank. I mean, i'm sure I would've been led to MaximumMotorsports in a few other places, but it's nice having people that post in this section that can actually explain how and why something works, other than the company trying to explain to you.(not that thats a bad thing, but just can be sometimes a little one-sided).

And yes, I agree. Streetfire sucks.

[MFE]

You're clearly very comfortable with the car and driving it aggressively but smartly. Your standings in your region, with a Mustang no less, relative to some of the cars and drivers you're smoking, speaks for itself.

[2k2GT]

So what you're sayin' is that I probably don't need to upgrade the quad shocks to the Monroe brand?

[Moving Target]

Cannot resist asking this...

That's you in the car and not some local hotshoe, right?

PS: Monroes rawk! Stop badmouthing them!

[2k2GT]

Dat's me, maing. Gotta love usin' the ol dirtbike helmet for autocross! I plan to get some regular/white/open face SA helmet sometime next year or so. May donate the moto-X helmet to the local region. Maybe it posses some super duper driving infusion abilities or something.

[MustangTurboCoupe]

Nice course. Good driving! The car moves.

[92MNstanger]

Are you guys talking about the comment on the body roll? I was thinking the same thing. I know you have really stiff springs (ask santa for coilovers), But I think the biggest factor is the tire your run. Must be pretty sticky to get that much roll with that high of a spring rate.

[2k2GT]

I thought the same thing about the tire. They were nice'n hot 275 Kumho V710's. I think thats a helluva sticky tire, and everytime i've run this brand of tire, it seems like they are their stickiest about 1/2 to 3/4's into their lifespan.

The depth/wear circles on the tires are still visible, and I probably have the width of a dime left before the wear circles disappear.

Going from around -1.8 or -2.0 degrees camber in the front to the now -3.0 has really helped the front grip, with what seems to be no side effects. I've also noticed that the outter edges of the tire isn't scalding hot after runs and the tire seems to have the same temperature from shoulder to shoulder. I'm also getting about another 1/2" of tire on the ground in the front.

I don't think i'll be doing coilovers any time soon, as the current setup seems to be working and for what a coilover setup costs, I don't see it making me considerably any faster. I could be wrong, but thats my feelings.

So like the K-member upgrade I mentioned above, if the front control arms don't break, and/or the K-member break...I don't see me upgrading anything up that'a way.

[Fast92Coupe]

Looks like the car is working well and you're driving it great. Now you need to add more power.

Justin

[2k2GT]

Originally Posted by Fast92Coupe

Looks like the car is working well and you're driving it great. Now you need to add more power.

Justin

TELL ME ABOUT IT!!!!! It needs some forced induction on it of some kind(besides the N20 kit I use).

I found a lead on some BBK long tube headers that a some buddies of mine will install for next to nothing, so I may take them up on that. I don't think that 15-20whp will make a HUGE difference when you've got what I got, every little bit helps.

In all honesty, if money were toilet paper, i'd like to have an aluminum 5.4 liter with some good compression(like 11.5:1). With something like that and a higher RPM limit, I could lose the current 4.10 gears and go with something more like a 3.27 or 3.55.

However, in reality, i'm the guy that had to scrimp/save/manage money to purchase a torque arm and shocks/struts.

[Scot_94GT]

Wow....that's with 1000lb springs?? I wonder what my car looked like the last two years with stock springs. I just installed 850lbs H&R's and Bilstiens this winter...i was kinda hoping to eliminate most of my body roll and nose dive.

[2k2GT]

Yea, it's the Steeda 1000lb Full Comp. springs up front, with the HR T/A springs in the back(440 or there abouts).

I'm gonna TRY to get another video April 15th of the next autocross up there and see if the MM Sport Bilstein's cure alot of those problems.

The car also has a MACH1 13" brake setup on the front. I was kinda shocked at the brake dive(as you can see it coming back toward you in the later part). I'm still running the OE MACH pads that came with the calipers, figured they suck enough or be worn out by now, but guess not. I can't wait to see what my usual HP+'s do when installed!!

[Scot_94GT]

Originally Posted by 2k2GT

Yea, it's the Steeda 1000lb Full Comp. springs up front, with the HR T/A springs in the back(440 or there abouts).

I'm gonna TRY to get another video April 15th of the next autocross up there and see if the MM Sport Bilstein's cure alot of those problems.

The car also has a MACH1 13" brake setup on the front. I was kinda shocked at the brake dive(as you can see it coming back toward you in the later part). I'm still running the OE MACH pads that came with the calipers, figured they suck enough or be worn out by now, but guess not. I can't wait to see what my usual HP+'s do when installed!!

Well... by comparison, here is a pic of my car braking for turn 7 at MAM with stock suspension, and the 13" Cobra brake upgrade, on street tires. I think if I had R comps, I would have been doing stoppies that day.

[92MNstanger]

Wow! Who were you following so hard? Way to dive for treasure there, Scot. You brake dive almost as well as you weld.

On the coil over subject. I just went to a set this year and can honestly say they are worth it. Think about it later on. Ride quality is much better and less body roll/dive. Even with just 350 lb/in springs. Just think about it, no decisions to make...

[track junkie]

Just watched your video 2,3,4 times enjoying the quickness in your step. The sound is great too. I have an 89' LX 5.0 hatchback that's been sitting for months now in my garage. It's completely stock and I had second thoughts about making it a track car. This video is helping me see the light again.

[2k2GT]

I'm sure I could go faster in some Miata on huge slicks, or some sort of Honda, or some 30,000+ dollar AWD car, but I like makin' the little Mustang hold its own out there.

My time behind the wheel of different cars is sorta limited, but I certainly have alota fun when out there on course in my car. I don't think it'd be the same in some FWD thing or different platform. Probably could be faster, but I like what I got!

[MFE]

I was at a track day yesterday that included a solid contingent of Elise and Exige owners. I overheard one of them (one of the principals of trackpedia and a cool dude) say "I looked in my mirror, and no, no, nooooo, there's no way an old Mustang can possibly be catching me! NO!"

Yes.

There was also a guy in an old but race-prepped VW Rabbit on race tires giving people more fits about cars they don't think should be fast that wipe up the track. I gotta say...there's more than a little bit of satisfaction in that.

[2k2GT]

Originally Posted by MFE

I was at a track day yesterday that included a solid contingent of Elise and Exige owners. I overheard one of them (one of the principals of trackpedia and a cool dude) say "I looked in my mirror, and no, no, nooooo, there's no way an old Mustang can possibly be catching me! NO!"

Yes.

There was also a guy in an old but race-prepped VW Rabbit on race tires giving people more fits about cars they don't think should be fast that wipe up the track. I gotta say...there's more than a little bit of satisfaction in that.

+1

[Moving Target]

I picture that "No, No, Noooooo!" lament in a wispy, pansy-assed voice.

[track junkie]

Originally Posted by 2k2GT

I'm sure I could go faster in some Miata on huge slicks, or some sort of Honda, or some 30,000+ dollar AWD car, but I like makin' the little Mustang hold its own out there.

My time behind the wheel of different cars is sorta limited, but I certainly have alota fun when out there on course in my car. I don't think it'd be the same in some FWD thing or different platform. Probably could be faster, but I like what I got!

I'm that 30,000 dollar AWD car right now. To satisfy my track quench, I'm out there in my daily driver Audi A4 2.0t quattro. My plan is to track this car for one year. I'd like to have my stang up and running for next years track season. I want to hear someone say, no, no, nooooo too.

[2k2GT]

Well, you've certainly got a more "plush" ride than the Mustang folk, i'm pretty sure about that!

I was meaning more along the lines of the Subaru's and EVO's.

[Jonny00GT]

Coil overs are not that pricy. I got a 350# coil over kit from one of the dealers on Corral for $149. (I believe that equates to about a 1400# conventional front spring and it drives fine on the street.)

That being said...I want to be like you some day! Nice driving!

-Jonny

[Moving Target]

Aww see, it's just a little project creep. What's the harm in buying the coilovers, huh?

[Scot_94GT]

Originally Posted by Jonny00GT

Coil overs are not that pricy. I got a 350# coil over kit from one of the dealers on Corral for $149. (I believe that equates to about a 1400# conventional front spring and it drives fine on the street.)

That being said...I want to be like you some day! Nice driving!

-Jonny

Did you forget a zero there? Isn't the MM coilover kit like $1700, give or take? $150 sound too good to be true.

[2k2GT]

The MM coilover kit is around 350$ give or take I believe(thats just the front). This is just the threaded sleeve, and the spring with all the "hardware" associated with them to make them functional.

Alota money for just my level of driving, especially when the current system "ain't broke"

For what I put my car through, i'm not going to skimp in a vital area like that, especially seeing how it will be the part that keeps the body of the car off the ground.

It'd be like me buying a set of Granatelli rear LCA's and goin' dragracin'!

[2k2GT]

Soo good I had to double post it! ********EDIT********

[MustangTurboCoupe]

Originally Posted by 2k2GT

I'm sure I could go faster in some Miata on huge slicks, or some sort of Honda, or some 30,000+ dollar AWD car, but I like makin' the little Mustang hold its own out there.

My time behind the wheel of different cars is sorta limited, but I certainly have alota fun when out there on course in my car. I don't think it'd be the same in some FWD thing or different platform. Probably could be faster, but I like what I got!

Replace "little Mustang" with "HUGE Country Squire" and that's me. I've got my little mazda that I did great in. I just wanted something different, and not my daily beater to race in. And I think at this point, the squire is quicker around the course than the protege (when it was set up)

[Jonny00GT]

Originally Posted by Scot_94GT

Did you forget a zero there? Isn't the MM coilover kit like $1700, give or take? $150 sound too good to be true.

No, that's what it was. It was just the fronts and it included all the hardware. I got them from Mod Mustang Racing.

-Jonny