UPR vs TeamZ vs Wolfe Rear suspension setup, whos the best?

[AidanN20]

I am leaning toward UPR's pro series setup for my 94 cobra with antiroll bar etc..but im really looking to make sure whatever I put on it is the best stuff available. I need this car to go 1.2-1.3 60 fts on 28x10.5W with a minitub...


UPR is the best price which is why I was leaning toward it...anyone have anything to share if wolfes bad dude setup or Team Z's is better or worse and why?

[chevymustang]

i just put the wolfe racecraft in my car and it was a breeze to put in, havent run the car with it but it is real nice quality and i have three buddies with it and they love it.

[stang9]

Can't really say if its better or not but I have the Team Z setup and really like it. Dave at Team Z gives top notch service and is really easy to work with, he even took time out on a saturday morning to fit me in to weld up my anti roll bar. So like I said no experience with the other stuff but Team Z gets my vote.

[nate-roth]

I'm very happy witht the upr set-up. I doubt too many people have tried both. Also never heard anything but positive things about both products.

[blwnfivoh]

i just got through with my team z install, should have results in a few wks. I will give Dave huge props he is always willing to take time out of his day to answer any question you may have.

[ONABUDGET]

I know with the wolfe set up with the mini ladder bar. That is crazy as far as hooking. you cant not hook with that. I dont think they are selling that though. I know you must set the rear up way diff. with that also. I've never seen Team z stuff, but hear its good. UPR stuff works real good and is by far the cheapest of the 3. Ronnie wilson has been 1.16 60' with the UPR rear suspension of course with wheelie bars, but thats besides the point. It works.

[Newt-Rod]

Guys there is one company you all are over looking and I think you should take time to look at. Its www.baselinesuspensions.com. I have been running this stuff on my car. On all motor it went

6.22@114 with a 1.37 60' on a 275/60/15 m/t drag radial this was with a 5.13 gear setup for the 1/8th mile

now we just put twin turbos on the car and took it this past weekend to log some air to fuel ratio and to check everything out. We only run on 4lbs of boost. Just makin some shakedown passes.

changed gear for the turbos setting the car up for the 1/4 mile so really didn't turn the rpms we needed, but will be there when we up the boost

car went

6.10@115 with a 1.40 60' This was leaving on the brake at 4000 with straight up hook. I know its not much faster, but this was just 4lbs of boost and a major gear change.

here is a little video for ya.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/b...2a0000f368.htm

Just check baseline out and then make the call.

thanks
newt-rod

[AidanN20]

I think ill pass on the baselinesuspensions and stick to the proven setups that have went 7's-8's on many mustangs....

[maxqstang]

its more of a toss up on the 3.

Ronnie Wilson has been 7.70s with the UPR setup on a 28x10.5 tire
Wolfe has been 7.40s on a drag radial in a customers car
A lot of NMRA guys run the Team Z stuff...Trace, Phil Clemmons, Joe Shober, etc.

I've had the wolfe stuff before and its great. Ronnie and Jeremy Martorella gave me a lot of info about the UPR setup and I think thats what I'm going ot try. They are also a contingency sponsor for some classes so that means a lot to me.

[jim travers]

just tossed my upr stuff for wolfe, wolfe is better quality

[superstocker]

The baselinesuspension stuff is the same idea as the TeamZ stuff. Two of my buddies just went to TeamZ set-ups but haven't ran there cars yet. They get my vote for the simple fact I've seen there cars launch and I know there stuff works.

[blwnfivoh]

Originally Posted by AidanN20

I think ill pass on the baselinesuspensions and stick to the proven setups that have went 7's-8's on many mustangs....

Kevin knows his stuff and it HAS been proven. If Team Z wasnt so close to my home and so convenient, i would have went with Baseline.

[tireburner163]

Originally Posted by AidanN20

I think ill pass on the baselinesuspensions and stick to the proven setups that have went 7's-8's on many mustangs....

ummmmm.......BaseLine's stuff IS proven and HAS gone 7's and 8's on many mustangs.

[tireburner163]

I would go with Wolfe, Team Z, or Baseline

[AidanN20]

Please reference me to a 7 second mustang with baseline suspension setup?? I'm not bashing, im interested in seeing proven results.

I hate to be the guinea pig on stuff so I like to use whatever has already been proven....

[Newt-Rod]

Mine is probably not a 7 second player but low 8's for sure. The last thing I am worried about is the Baseline Suspension on my car. Its there. I have been as good as a 1.37 60' on drag radials with this setup. I am very confident in it working and working well

[Adrenalin]

Originally Posted by jim travers

just tossed my upr stuff for wolfe, wolfe is better quality

I can't add my opinion from experience, but I have done alot of searching, and have seen several posts where UPRs Anti-Roll bar ends/linkages have often broken in the same situations where Wolfes has not. As far as baseline goes, I didn't see too much about them or much about TeamZs.

Wolfes are a more expensive, but I think I'm leaning towards them. I would rather pay a little more and have that peace of mind. I'd also like to see more responses. So I suppose I'm subscribing as well.

[neal@artcarr]

I have 2 cars with the Wolfe Suspension on it and I'll never use anything else.

David Wolfe ran a 7.40 @ 197 at WFC9 on Drag Radials !! .........nuff said.

To add insult to injury he was .2X faster than the Outlaw cars(who were on slicks) at that event. .......those cars included Urist, Burton, and the rest of the fast guys.

You can use the Copy-cat stuff if you want to but Wolfe invented it !!

go see for yourself........www.wolferacecraft.com

[88gtguy]

Originally Posted by neal@artcarr

I have 2 cars with the Wolfe Suspension on it and I'll never use anything else.

David Wolfe ran a 7.40 @ 197 at WFC9 on Drag Radials !! .........nuff said.

To add insult to injury he was .2X faster than the Outlaw cars(who were on slicks) at that event. .......those cars included Urist, Burton, and the rest of the fast guys.

You can use the Copy-cat stuff if you want to but Wolfe invented it !!

go see for yourself........www.wolferacecraft.com

but he has that torque arm thing on the car also.... big help.

I have all wolfe on my car, I can't complain.. I've been a best of 1.37 with it. And I belive I'd be in the low 30's high 20's if not for converter issues.

[slowfive0]

I have 2 friends that run the Team Z equipment. One has been a 1.28 60 on a 325/50R15 Drag Radial. The other has been a 1.26 60 on a 28/10.5R15 Slick. I also have the same equipment on my car.

Dave (Team Z) did my cage work and I went with his suspension as well. He is a racer and supports his product. He will help you get your suspension dialed in. Plus he is in my backyard!

2nd choice would definitely be Kevin. He is awesome and is probably one of the most supportive people I've met on-line. Very honest and a good person. Knows his **** too!

Wolf is awesome and works just fine. Very proven product.

UPR is out there and works, but I think isn't the strongest. I've heard of a lot of racers breaking heim ends, etc at the 8 second level and faster. For that matter, I think I've heard of some slower racers breaking parts too! I'll let those guys post their experiences. I think they get used a lot because of the cheap price and contingency?

Good luck either way you go.

[jim travers]

Originally Posted by Adrenalin

I can't add my opinion from experience, but I have done alot of searching, and have seen several posts where UPRs Anti-Roll bar ends/linkages have often broken in the same situations where Wolfes has not. As far as baseline goes, I didn't see too much about them or much about TeamZs.

Wolfes are a more expensive, but I think I'm leaning towards them. I would rather pay a little more and have that peace of mind. I'd also like to see more responses. So I suppose I'm subscribing as well.

get wolfe, it was a major p.i.t.a. just to grind out my welds to get the new anti roll bar plates in, took like 6 hours

[jonathan]

All 4 companies are great, but Kevin(baseline) has the best customer service of the bunch, and UPR charges prices that aren't hilarious.

[badloser]

I am happy with the UPR set up I think it is the best for the money.

[BlackSunshine02]

I will toss in my vote for UPR, I love it and them being sponors of races doesn't hurt.

[Notchfire]

my vote for wolfe here! just put it in so no results yet, but real quality parts.

[Redsnk95]

I have the full on baseline kit on my car, going to test this week. While I have no proven results I will say the quality of the parts of truly top notch. Kevin has gone above and beyond with any and all special requests that I have made. Kevin also includes a chassis plot and has wonderful customer service on what adjustments are to be made, and he actually explains in depth his recommendations...not just do this, he explains to me why he think said adjustment would be best to test and how it will affect my car and how it hits the tires.. I'm glad that my rear suspension is something that I will never have to worry about again.

That being said, there are few TT5 cars here locally that run low 8s/high 7s on TeamZ equipment along with a few Wolfe equipped cars that run the same times. IMO all three have quality equipment but it comes down to customer service and support. Kevin offers top notch support, I've heard that Dave at TeamZ is willing to help out quite a bit with settings, I don't know much about Wolfe in that department. How well a car hooks will be in the hands of the user...like tuning a car and we generally get some help in that area from a qualified person.

Any of the three choices will be a good one, but my vote is to Kevin.

[boss69302]

All of the companies make good products, and work well if installed correctly. I was having problems getting my car to hook good, and Kevin at Baseline took care of that with his upper set-up. He took the time to tell me what changes had to be made for my particular application. Having said that, the rest of my rear set up consists of: UPR anti sway bar, and torque box reinforcements. Wolf off-set lower control arms, and mini tubs. Everything inside the housing is made by Strange as are the coil overs and rear brakes. 60's 1.33 all summer long straight and smooth. http://motorcitynationals.com/v-web/...bum137/YOK5903

Usually, the best product is what works best for your application and wallet. The guy that runs 8's on motor may need a different set-up from the guy that runs 8's on spray. It all depends on your particular application as to what will be the, "BEST. "

Phil

[4" Stroke]

Originally Posted by maxqstang

Ronnie Wilson has been 7.70s with the UPR setup on a 28x10.5 tire

He also went 7.80 with the Steeda stuff the year before. And that was Before More Power, a Complete carbon fiber front end, doors & ect that he added in the off season.

Adam Louramore also ran Steeda stuff in 05 and won the Drag Radial class in FFW.

[AidanN20]

You guys can go ahead and lock this one up...I appreciate all the info everyone gave...lots of good choices out there.

[red89coupe]

Originally Posted by AidanN20

Please reference me to a 7 second mustang with baseline suspension setup?? I'm not bashing, im interested in seeing proven results.

I hate to be the guinea pig on stuff so I like to use whatever has already been proven....

check out the website. Mike Dees did it back in 2005.

there are tons of options out there. take a look at em all, TRUST ME last thing you want is to be unhappy with a rear suspension. Ask me how I know lol lol

[duffman]

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[1foxbody32]

Wolfe. Thats what I'm going to be running in my car also its very nice and proven results I have never heard one bad thing about them.

[krigdon4650]

the new wolfe torque arm set up is available but it will not pass tech in a stock suspension class.... if the car is set up well there is no more than a tenth for the torque arm in a really fast car.... but cars running 1.3ish 60's dont really need it, wolfe is wonderful quality i run it on mine and the guy who built my car uses it and he has the torque arm and hasnt helped him yet so...

[toxic283]

I have all Wolfe including double anti roll bar. Went a 1.26 60' at Atco, which is about as good as it gets on a true 10.5 with a turbo. I will tell you that their mini-tub kit was a pita.

[Blackfive0]

Originally Posted by AidanN20

I think ill pass on the baselinesuspensions and stick to the proven setups that have went 7's-8's on many mustangs....

Not to tell you that you are wrong, but baseline is proven. Now I do have baseline on my car and I have a buddy who has team-z, if you look at the two they are dam near the same. The differance between the two I would say is everything from baseline is bigger is size.