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BADASS03SVT · 10-19-2009, 04:02 PM

so I got the car working what I "thought" was perfect. went up to Tasca Ford day at my local track and the car ran AWESOME.

60's

1.37
1.37
1.37
1.37
1.36

ET's

10.02
9.99
9.98
10.02 (pulley swapped)
9.99

couldnt have asked for a better day. but check out the video. I still seem to have a rear end "bounce" on the launch. its one good solid bounce and I bet there is .01-.02 left in the 60' if I could eliminate that.

here is a vid of my 5 passes this past weekend with (3) 9.9 passes.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J...uns_714078.htm

privatejoker · 10-19-2009, 04:18 PM

Very nice. I might play with the pinion angle a little, but it looks like you've got it just about perfect. What's the whole combo?

dy85merc · 10-19-2009, 04:26 PM

One word...WICKED!!! lol.

Brian47 · 10-19-2009, 05:18 PM

Any other videos...

I saw the car run it ran hard!!!

I was gonna come over and say hi, but I was running around a bit.

BADASS03SVT · 10-19-2009, 09:05 PM

how about in slow motion

BADASS03SVT · 10-19-2009, 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by privatejoker

Very nice. I might play with the pinion angle a little, but it looks like you've got it just about perfect. What's the whole combo?

REAR
upr uppers and lowers
anti roll bar
strange shocks
stock gt springs

FRONT
tubular K/arms
14" 175# coil overs
tokico drag struts

Tommy@JPC · 10-19-2009, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BADASS03SVT

so I got the car working what I "thought" was perfect. went up to Tasca Ford day at my local track and the car ran AWESOME.

60's

1.37
1.37
1.37
1.37
1.36

ET's

10.02
9.99
9.98
10.02 (pulley swapped)
9.99

couldnt have asked for a better day. but check out the video. I still seem to have a rear end "bounce" on the launch. its one good solid bounce and I bet there is .01-.02 left in the 60' if I could eliminate that.

here is a vid of my 5 passes this past weekend with (3) 9.9 passes.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J...uns_714078.htm

The "bounce" to me looks like the tires wrapping up then the car is moving forward and they unwrap. It's fine, but if you want to try something maybe put a lb of air in them.

bykr · 10-20-2009, 09:14 AM

x2 on air pressure.But it looks pretty dialed in.Nice car!

BADASS03SVT · 10-20-2009, 09:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bykr

x2 on air pressure.But it looks pretty dialed in.Nice car!

Im running 12psi hot in them now. I tried 12.5 last week and I lost a tic on the 60' by .02. moved them back to 12 and got it back. Ive just always run 12. maybe the car is working so good (transferring) that the extra pound will be ok?

Tommy@JPC · 10-20-2009, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BADASS03SVT

Im running 12psi hot in them now. I tried 12.5 last week and I lost a tic on the 60' by .02. moved them back to 12 and got it back. Ive just always run 12. maybe the car is working so good (transferring) that the extra pound will be ok?

edited.

angcobra · 10-20-2009, 10:34 AM

Do you have adjustable shocks on the rear?

I would also like to know what camera and software you used to make your slo mo vid. I want to take some video of mine also.

BADASS03SVT · 10-20-2009, 10:35 AM

pic from this weekend

BADASS03SVT · 10-20-2009, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by angcobra

Do you have adjustable shocks on the rear?

I would also like to know what camera and software you used to make your slo mo vid. I want to take some video of mine also.

yes I do...they are single adj strange 10 ways....set fully loose

its just a Sony handycam and adobe premier pro

bykr · 10-20-2009, 11:49 PM

Don't most cars work well with about 5 clicks on the rear?I haven't used Strange rears,but I've got a couple of friends that run them there in cars that 60ft. well.Full loose is usually a front setting(I'm using 2 clicks in front).Have you played around with the shock settings?

BADASS03SVT · 10-20-2009, 11:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bykr

Don't most cars work well with about 5 clicks on the rear?I haven't used Strange rears,but I've got a couple of friends that run them there in cars that 60ft. well.Full loose is usually a front setting(I'm using 2 clicks in front).Have you played around with the shock settings?

not alot because as soon as I went up a click, I lost in the 60' and then when I went back I got it back.

Im at 3 up front and 1 out back...lol...backwards to most I know!

angcobra · 10-21-2009, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bykr

Don't most cars work well with about 5 clicks on the rear?I haven't used Strange rears,but I've got a couple of friends that run them there in cars that 60ft. well.Full loose is usually a front setting(I'm using 2 clicks in front).Have you played around with the shock settings?

Thanks for this info and any other you want to share. I am installing (today) UPR rear coilovers with QA-1 12 way adjustable, and QA-1 front coilover struts with 10 turn adjustment, and I have no idea where to start on the adjustments.

HIPSI · 10-21-2009, 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tommy@JPC

The "bounce" to me looks like the tires wrapping up then the car is moving forward and they unwrap. It's fine, but if you want to try something maybe put a lb of air in them.

Exactly. The suspension is working. The bounce is all in the tire.

If you don't want to go up in tire pressure you could try reducing the amount of anti-squat you have dialed in with your control arm angles. The initial hit is planting the tire pretty hard.

BADASS03SVT · 10-21-2009, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HIPSI

Exactly. The suspension is working. The bounce is all in the tire.

If you don't want to go up in tire pressure you could try reducing the amount of anti-squat you have dialed in with your control arm angles. The initial hit is planting the tire pretty hard.

uh...here we go again with anti squat....

so what arms? angles? I cant really move my lowers as the 28s just fit in the fenders.

someone told me to "raise" the back of the car a tad to make the lowers even with the ground though? right now the body side is a little lower than the axle side.

HIPSI · 10-21-2009, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BADASS03SVT

uh...here we go again with anti squat....

so what arms? angles? I cant really move my lowers as the 28s just fit in the fenders.

someone told me to "raise" the back of the car a tad to make the lowers even with the ground though? right now the body side is a little lower than the axle side.

Moving the location of the uppers at the body via the S-box or at the axle housing (multiple options here) will have a more dramatic affect than raising the car albiet at a higher cost. Personally, I wouldn't change much. Have you tried a stiff sidewall slick? They make a dramatic difference on a stick car.

BADASS03SVT · 10-21-2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HIPSI

Moving the location of the uppers at the body via the S-box or at the axle housing (multiple options here) will have a more dramatic affect than raising the car albiet at a higher cost. Personally, I wouldn't change much. Have you tried a stiff sidewall slick? They make a dramatic difference on a stick car.

these are stiff sidewalls

I was thinking of just adding in a spring isolater set to raise it up 1/8" or so. dont think I want to get into drilling holes and swapping around mounting points.

HIPSI · 10-21-2009, 03:15 PM

Do you run tubes? I don't think an 1/8" spacer will change anything.

dy85merc · 10-21-2009, 04:29 PM

You guys keep it coming, I'm reading every word of this and I really appreciate all this info. I'm going to do my rear suspension this winter, and I will take all of this into consideration. Thanks.

BADASS03SVT · 10-21-2009, 09:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HIPSI

Do you run tubes? I don't think an 1/8" spacer will change anything.

no tubes

no huh?just to even the lower control arms up?

BULLITT1992 · 10-21-2009, 10:21 PM

I don't think I would change anything. You are cutting a low 60' and being VERY consistent. Good job. I wouldn't tinker with it, just enjoy it.

BADASS03SVT · 10-22-2009, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BULLITT1992

I don't think I would change anything. You are cutting a low 60' and being VERY consistent. Good job. I wouldn't tinker with it, just enjoy it.

I cant stand the fact I can see something wrong though and knowing the car could go faster irks me! haha

feetfirst · 10-22-2009, 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BADASS03SVT

I cant stand the fact I can see something wrong though and knowing the car could go faster irks me! haha

It looks to me the car has no suspension control in the rear....and is actually bouncing after launch........try upping the rear shocks to 5 clicks and report back.....after trying that, if it works for you, try upping the air pressure 1/2 lb at a time.

BADASS03SVT · 10-22-2009, 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feetfirst

It looks to me the car has no suspension control in the rear....and is actually bouncing after launch........try upping the rear shocks to 5 clicks and report back.....after trying that, if it works for you, try upping the air pressure 1/2 lb at a time.

will do...only a couple weeks left of racing up here

BULLITT1992 · 10-22-2009, 08:52 AM

Well you have some bounce in your rear suspension so you could probably use a little more rebound. If you are running the tokicos that increase compression and rebound with every click, you can't go up with rebound without stiffening the compression. With that said, I'd be inclined to just leave it alone, but I know what you mean. Its hard not to improve something if you think it can be fixed. You already said you lost time by going stiffer, aside from another set of shocks (which you could spend lots of time chasing your tail with) I'd leave it be and enjoy the ride. Especially since you are already in the 9's.

BADASS03SVT · 10-22-2009, 09:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BULLITT1992

Well you have some bounce in your rear suspension so you could probably use a little more rebound. If you are running the tokicos that increase compression and rebound with every click, you can't go up with rebound without stiffening the compression. With that said, I'd be inclined to just leave it alone, but I know what you mean. Its hard not to improve something if you think it can be fixed. You already said you lost time by going stiffer, aside from another set of shocks (which you could spend lots of time chasing your tail with) I'd leave it be and enjoy the ride. Especially since you are already in the 9's.

im running strange shocks so same thing.

I know the car is working great but all this year Ive been striving for every last .01 in this car. if I can get it into the 1.36s or even the 1.35s Itll be a solid 9.90-9.95 car. I have to do dash bars this winter and Ill remove the heater core and a couple other things so I dont see the car actually changing too much for next year. more I can do now is less I have to next year and start some events

TOM89LX50 · 10-30-2009, 06:54 PM

Play with the shock and strut settings. If you are inclined to leave the rears alone, put a few more clicks in the front. This will control the rise and fall of the front end of the car so it is not so drastic. FWIW I run QA1's in the front and rear of my car and it likes 7 turns in the front and 4 clicks in the rears. I used to run them full loose and the thing would yank the front tires, bounce in the rear, unload the rear tires when the front came down and bounce again on gear shifts. I know we have drastically different cars but just try it.

JohnnyReb · 10-30-2009, 08:46 PM

What do you have your pinion angle set at? Trying to get a bad hop out of my 96 cobra. What do you guys think of mega bite jr lowers? That's what I have.

BADASS03SVT · 10-31-2009, 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TOM89LX50

Play with the shock and strut settings. If you are inclined to leave the rears alone, put a few more clicks in the front. This will control the rise and fall of the front end of the car so it is not so drastic. FWIW I run QA1's in the front and rear of my car and it likes 7 turns in the front and 4 clicks in the rears. I used to run them full loose and the thing would yank the front tires, bounce in the rear, unload the rear tires when the front came down and bounce again on gear shifts. I know we have drastically different cars but just try it.

yea Im gonna play a bit tomorrow on the last day of the season up here.

I probably should have added I have the 2-step / converter flashing HARD. 2 step is 3500 and the converter flashes to 4800-4900. so Im flashing 1300-1400rpms.

Dave Z · 10-31-2009, 10:32 AM

I think your car is a great canadate for a D/A shock!

There is no reason you cant consistantly run low 1.30 sixty's

BADASS03SVT · 10-31-2009, 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Z

I think your car is a great canadate for a D/A shock!

There is no reason you cant consistantly run low 1.30 sixty's

who makes a DA that will fit in the stock location? Ive heard AFCO makes a set?

whats your take on the launch?

gray86hatch · 10-31-2009, 08:23 PM

Strange. Afco and varishock all make them.

Tim

10-19-2009, 04:02 PM	#1
BADASS03SVT Registered User Trader Feedback: (7) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ma Posts: 1,225	Look how my suspension is working so I got the car working what I "thought" was perfect. went up to Tasca Ford day at my local track and the car ran AWESOME. 60's 1.37 1.37 1.37 1.37 1.36 ET's 10.02 9.99 9.98 10.02 (pulley swapped) 9.99 couldnt have asked for a better day. but check out the video. I still seem to have a rear end "bounce" on the launch. its one good solid bounce and I bet there is .01-.02 left in the 60' if I could eliminate that. here is a vid of my 5 passes this past weekend with (3) 9.9 passes. http://videos.streetfire.net/video/J...uns_714078.htm __________________ Silver '03 Cobra Coupe Auto OEM Longblock UNTOUCHED 9.94@135 w/a 1.36 - Eaton only, NO nitrous! Last edited by BADASS03SVT; 10-19-2009 at 04:08 PM.

10-19-2009, 04:26 PM	#3
dy85merc Registered User Trader Feedback: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Parkersbug, WV Posts: 2,223	One word...WICKED!!! lol. __________________ 1985 capri, stock 88 shortblock 302, twisted wedge, TFS stage 1 cam, LTs, 3.73, ET streets, summit stage 3 intake, demon 650, G-force T-5, centerforce D/F, MSD dizzy, 6AL,12.11@110

10-19-2009, 05:18 PM	#4
Brian47 Registered User Trader Feedback: (6) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Meriden, CT Posts: 2,051	Any other videos... I saw the car run it ran hard!!! I was gonna come over and say hi, but I was running around a bit. __________________ 89 LX: Stock cam, E7s, Cobra intake, 3.73s and bolt ons... BESTS 12.56 et 107.4 mph: slicks, 12.53 et 108.2 mph: 17" ET Streets, 12.87 et 111.5 mph: 17" DRs, 12.95 et 109.2 mph: 18" radials

10-19-2009, 09:05 PM	#5
BADASS03SVT Registered User Trader Feedback: (7) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ma Posts: 1,225	how about in slow motion __________________ Silver '03 Cobra Coupe Auto OEM Longblock UNTOUCHED 9.94@135 w/a 1.36 - Eaton only, NO nitrous!

10-20-2009, 09:14 AM	#8
bykr Registered User Trader Feedback: (13) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hesperia,CA Posts: 1,037	x2 on air pressure.But it looks pretty dialed in.Nice car! __________________ '91 Hatch-12:1 408,fogger,C4 5.60's@124 1.23 60ft.

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10-19-2009, 04:18 PM	#2
privatejoker Registered User Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: overland park kansas Posts: 1,173	Very nice. I might play with the pinion angle a little, but it looks like you've got it just about perfect. What's the whole combo?

10-20-2009, 10:34 AM	#11
angcobra Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Birmingham, AL Posts: 216	Do you have adjustable shocks on the rear? I would also like to know what camera and software you used to make your slo mo vid. I want to take some video of mine also. __________________ 2003 SVT Cobra Vert 450 RWHP 1986 GT 686 RWHP

10-20-2009, 10:35 AM	#12
BADASS03SVT Registered User Trader Feedback: (7) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Ma Posts: 1,225	pic from this weekend __________________ Silver '03 Cobra Coupe Auto OEM Longblock UNTOUCHED 9.94@135 w/a 1.36 - Eaton only, NO nitrous!

10-20-2009, 11:49 PM	#14
bykr Registered User Trader Feedback: (13) Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Hesperia,CA Posts: 1,037	Don't most cars work well with about 5 clicks on the rear?I haven't used Strange rears,but I've got a couple of friends that run them there in cars that 60ft. well.Full loose is usually a front setting(I'm using 2 clicks in front).Have you played around with the shock settings? __________________ '91 Hatch-12:1 408,fogger,C4 5.60's@124 1.23 60ft. Last edited by bykr; 10-20-2009 at 11:52 PM.

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HIPSI Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Florence Posts: 378	Do you run tubes? I don't think an 1/8" spacer will change anything. __________________ 97 GTS Bolton PI engine 266 rwhp 11.94 @ 111.66 NMRA F/S #1 (2005 and 2006) Crew Chief

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dy85merc Registered User Trader Feedback: (6) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Parkersbug, WV Posts: 2,223	You guys keep it coming, I'm reading every word of this and I really appreciate all this info. I'm going to do my rear suspension this winter, and I will take all of this into consideration. Thanks. __________________ 1985 capri, stock 88 shortblock 302, twisted wedge, TFS stage 1 cam, LTs, 3.73, ET streets, summit stage 3 intake, demon 650, G-force T-5, centerforce D/F, MSD dizzy, 6AL,12.11@110

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TOM89LX50 Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: PHILA.,PA USA Posts: 574	Play with the shock and strut settings. If you are inclined to leave the rears alone, put a few more clicks in the front. This will control the rise and fall of the front end of the car so it is not so drastic. FWIW I run QA1's in the front and rear of my car and it likes 7 turns in the front and 4 clicks in the rears. I used to run them full loose and the thing would yank the front tires, bounce in the rear, unload the rear tires when the front came down and bounce again on gear shifts. I know we have drastically different cars but just try it. __________________ 89LX, 11.45@118.11, Stock Bottom End 302, N/A, Mileski Racing/Espeut Performance. 06 Atco O/C Winner , 09 Atco O/C R/U.

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JohnnyReb Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Helenwood, Tenn. Taxpayer Revolt of 1861-65 Posts: 1,502	What do you have your pinion angle set at? Trying to get a bad hop out of my 96 cobra. What do you guys think of mega bite jr lowers? That's what I have. __________________ 1996 Laser Red Cobra #64 Detroit Locker, Moser 31 spline axles, 4.56, Hooker Longtubes with 'X', ASP pullies, UPR Powerpipe CAI, SSR Ported Intake, Ripper shifter, UPR double adj. uppers, solid housing bushings, Mega Bite Jr. lowers, MM full length subframe connectors, UPR chrome moly k/member, a/arms, coilovers and Strange adj. front shocks. Tuned by Jerry. 26 x 8 1/2 x 15 ET Drags 8.11 @ 84.64 1/8 mile 12.91 @ 107.05 - before headers, SSR intake, suspension and tune.

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Dave Z Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: SE michigan Posts: 239	I think your car is a great canadate for a D/A shock! There is no reason you cant consistantly run low 1.30 sixty's

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gray86hatch Registered User Trader Feedback: (37) Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Battle Creek, Mi Posts: 5,249	Strange. Afco and varishock all make them. Tim __________________ 86 3185lb FTI 408 10.24 132 unported TW. Hot Rod Drag Week NA-SB R/U 2007 Officaly Retired from Racing. When arguing with a idiot after a few min it is hard to tell who the idiot is. www.flowtechinduction.com www.boozebrothersracing.com

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