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fbod383 · 03-09-2009, 01:40 PM

For those of you that dont know. I'm stuffing an 05 3V V10 into a 90 LX Notch.. here are some pics... already outdated.. since I had to modify the k member.. you'll notice the engine looks a little crooked, well on mount was in the hole, the other wasn't

Oh.. and the wiring is no longer a mess on the shop floor.. lol its ready to go.

Shadrack · 03-09-2009, 01:42 PM

Dayum!!!! That is awesome! Any mods to the engine?

calebcope · 03-09-2009, 01:46 PM

Did you have any problems put in those lights?

fbod383 · 03-09-2009, 02:22 PM

The engine will be boosted. I have flipped the manifolds and plan on putting two turbos in each corner, relocate the battery of course.
\H-beam rods and forged pistons. Its just a 5.4 with two extra cylinders

As for the headlights

Actually there is a gap in the corners, but its not too bad

t-top mustang guy · 03-09-2009, 05:59 PM

thats insane, what are you gonna run for an intake..........

eighty8gtfiveo · 03-09-2009, 07:10 PM

nice project man. keep us updated.

fbod383 · 03-09-2009, 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by t-top mustang guy

thats insane, what are you gonna run for an intake..........

I fabbed up one out of sheetmetal and some tubing.I'll get some pics up

vinnietbird · 03-09-2009, 10:11 PM

That's awesome.What made you take on that task?

Y2KStangGT · 03-09-2009, 10:42 PM

Can't wait to see more of this!

NUTTSGT · 03-09-2009, 10:58 PM

What's the weight difference of the V10 compared to a 302/351 ?

ackstang · 03-10-2009, 03:08 AM

Cool dare to be diff swap....but the V10...yuck. Was never a fan of those motors.

Good luck with it though, what are your hope for power?

Erich · 03-10-2009, 09:18 AM

I rented an econoline based truck with a V10 in it and it was pretty sweet. Also some of those F350s with the 10 move out pretty fast-especially considering the weight.

Is there a forged crank in that badboy?
Erich

fbod383 · 03-10-2009, 10:14 AM

Vinnie: After 3 years of helping my buddy with is 4.6 DOHC swap into a 93 Notch, I figured I had to "one up" him. I know I'll be lucky to hit his numbers 840whp (and he has potential to go higher) Its just more bragging rights lol

Nutts, I dunno what the SBFs weigh, when this was shipped it weighed 695lbs. That was complete, all sensors, fuel rails, everything. Its a little porker. But, if I wanted to go fast I woulda gotten a Teksid 4.6.. not like it will be slow

Ackstang.. I've never been a fan of Mustangs! lol.. hence the Username haha

Erich: The V10s came with a forged steel Crank

fbod383 · 03-10-2009, 10:22 AM

here is where I had to cut the cam cover. Its just the PCV baffle, so there are no clearance issues. gotta weld it up now

Moved the motor mounts forward to clear the firewall a little better

engines permanent home

Wiring harness with all the non-essentials removed.. IE Auto trans stuff, PTO, ABS, etc

Did I mention its getting SN95 interior? SN95 pedals

moving the motor forward, the trans is still pretty much lined up

Doc_G · 03-10-2009, 10:24 AM

Wow that project was/is/will still be alot of work.

You've got the exact headlights I'm replacing mine with. Other than the gaps how problematic was the install? Also is/was getting them aimed properly a problem?

fbod383 · 03-10-2009, 11:59 AM

They just go right in. no prolems at all. I have not aimed them yet.. since the car really isn't ready for them lol. But I do think they are great lookin lights

Doc_G · 03-10-2009, 03:05 PM

I do too, its why I picked em (cause my car is black too) I just wanted to make sure that they were of good quality as the last time I purchased a one piece head light it was a pan in the sitter. I was looking at the ones on AM, is that where you got yours?

Melon · 03-10-2009, 03:38 PM

that should be sweet
i just want to see people faces when they ask if it's a 5.0
and you no man it's a v10 they would be like wtf

fbod383 · 03-10-2009, 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doc_G

I do too, its why I picked em (cause my car is black too) I just wanted to make sure that they were of good quality as the last time I purchased a one piece head light it was a pan in the sitter. I was looking at the ones on AM, is that where you got yours?

I got them off of ebay, but its the same brand.

Hack · 03-10-2009, 08:27 PM

I like the project, but I'm surprised you didn't take a minute to put tape over the intake ports. You obviously aren't lazy, taking on a project like that.

fbod383 · 03-10-2009, 09:00 PM

Oh, the whole motor is getting torn down. And if I were doing anything over the motor such as grinding or cutting, i'd still cover them.

Erich · 03-11-2009, 01:16 PM

I really like that shot from the front with the intake ports. That motor is so long!

Is it going to be hard to find a place for the turbos?
Erich

SilverFoxbody · 03-11-2009, 01:17 PM

I would like to read up on how to do this swap...got any links...like how to get it to run...what eec...ect.

panteramatt · 03-12-2009, 01:15 AM

That is one of the coolest swaps Ive seen. Cant believe a chebby lover is doing it!

sawbones25 · 03-12-2009, 02:30 PM

Subscribing.
Can't wait to see this thing finished.

mustangjon · 03-12-2009, 10:08 PM

nice project, dont let anyone ever tell you something cant be done lol.

Just a question hasnt someone came up with a master cylinder relocation setup, i swore i seen it done on a fox before. Just seems easier than chopping the covers up.

Keep up the hard work

Alexandros · 03-12-2009, 10:27 PM

I will definitly try that one on a highboy one day, looks like alot of fun.

gnvair · 03-12-2009, 11:12 PM

The V10 is actually a 4.6 with 2 more cylinders, not a 5.4.
It shares the same deck height and same rod length as a 4.6.
Super Ford had an article years ago where someone adapted the whole set up from an E350 into an SN95. I seem to remember the intake and throttle body were tricky.

abrrymnvette · 03-12-2009, 11:29 PM

I actually thought about doing this same swap a couple weeks ago since I haven't bought a motor for my notch project yet. But the lack of aftermarket anything made me decide otherwise. But, I didn't know they came factory with forged cranks and that they are just 4.6 w/two more cylinders.

That's what I get for being a chevy guy.

92notch306 · 03-13-2009, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gnvair

The V10 is actually a 4.6 with 2 more cylinders, not a 5.4.
It shares the same deck height and same rod length as a 4.6.
Super Ford had an article years ago where someone adapted the whole set up from an E350 into an SN95. I seem to remember the intake and throttle body were tricky.

you talking about this car?
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea...ang/index.html

92notch306 · 03-13-2009, 12:42 AM

and heres a vid of that car

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...ang_209567.htm

uchi · 03-13-2009, 12:47 AM

this is fantastic, i saw a vid of some of the guys working for ford did a mule, 02 style mustang with a v10 and it was just great. cant wait to see this finished

gnvair · 03-13-2009, 11:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 92notch306

you talking about this car?
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/fea...ang/index.html

No, it was definitely in Super Ford around 1998-99 and used a 94-96 V6 body as a starting point.

Paulie · 03-13-2009, 01:06 PM

5.4 and 6.8 have the same stroke and same deck height. Do the math. Adding 2 cylinders to a 4.6 does not give you 6.8l.

gnvair · 03-13-2009, 01:37 PM

03-09-2009, 01:40 PM	#1
fbod383 Registered User Trader Feedback: (4) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DSM, IA Posts: 163	V10 Fox update For those of you that dont know. I'm stuffing an 05 3V V10 into a 90 LX Notch.. here are some pics... already outdated.. since I had to modify the k member.. you'll notice the engine looks a little crooked, well on mount was in the hole, the other wasn't Oh.. and the wiring is no longer a mess on the shop floor.. lol its ready to go. __________________ 90 LX Notch 6.8L V10

03-09-2009, 01:42 PM	#2
Shadrack Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Jenkins, Ky Posts: 305	Dayum!!!! That is awesome! Any mods to the engine? __________________ '08 F-250 Fx4 Powerstroke '01 Procharged Z06 Corvette '90 LX Coupe 347 Stroker '78 Trans Am T/A 6.6

03-09-2009, 01:46 PM	#3
calebcope Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Jay. FL Posts: 105	Head Light Did you have any problems put in those lights? __________________ "All the bull@#*t stops when the greenlight drops" _________________________ 93 notchback AOD to Tremec swap, Pro 5.0 shifter, Steeda cable kit and padels, 3.73 gears, Crane Cams Fire Ball HI6-S

03-09-2009, 02:22 PM	#4
fbod383 Registered User Trader Feedback: (4) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DSM, IA Posts: 163	The engine will be boosted. I have flipped the manifolds and plan on putting two turbos in each corner, relocate the battery of course. \H-beam rods and forged pistons. Its just a 5.4 with two extra cylinders As for the headlights Actually there is a gap in the corners, but its not too bad __________________ 90 LX Notch 6.8L V10

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03-09-2009, 05:59 PM	#5
t-top mustang guy Registered User Trader Feedback: (10) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: EFFORT' PA Posts: 380	thats insane, what are you gonna run for an intake..........

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vinnietbird Registered User Trader Feedback: (22) Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Ardmore,Oklahoma Posts: 1,692	That's awesome.What made you take on that task? __________________ '88 Tbird..5.0 H.O.,T-5,Polished Explorer intake,E-303,MAC CAI,3G upgrade,73mm Mass Air,73mm,65mm t-body,1.6 roller rockers,8.8 with 3.55's,BBK shorties,A/C & smog delete,mini starter,Pypes off road X-Pipe and Flowmasters,17x9 and 17x10 10th ann. Cobra wheels,electric fan,CHE tubular control arms

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Y2KStangGT Registered User Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Brownstown Twp, Michigan Posts: 1,179	Can't wait to see more of this! __________________ Mike '00 Mustang GT Vert: Long gone. '83 Mustang GLX: T-tops,EFI 5.0L/T-5/8.8 transplant,Ebrock heads/int,F303,15psi Turbo,TwEECer R/T,3.27s,Cobra brakes...

03-10-2009, 03:08 AM	#11
ackstang Registered User Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Nantucket, MA Posts: 1,597	Cool dare to be diff swap....but the V10...yuck. Was never a fan of those motors. Good luck with it though, what are your hope for power? __________________ 1985 GT with T-tops. Sportsman based 342, AFR 205's into a Vic Jr. and a C&S Billet Aerosol 800 carb fed by a Novi 2K, MSD Digital 7531. Street tune is 582rwhp at 6500rpm . Tube K-member and arms. Built 8.8 with 9 inch ends. Cage and chassis work by DMC Racing. Tuning by SD Concepts.

03-10-2009, 09:18 AM	#12
Erich Registered User Trader Feedback: (19) Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: MD Posts: 5,323	I rented an econoline based truck with a V10 in it and it was pretty sweet. Also some of those F350s with the 10 move out pretty fast-especially considering the weight. Is there a forged crank in that badboy? Erich __________________ 97 Laser Red GT-248A Wingless model, Built Lincoln Mark VIII motor-Procharger D1SC, 3 core IC, 60# inj 1989 Sonic Blue Notchback-DIY Twin Turbo, 42# inj, GT40P heads

03-10-2009, 10:14 AM	#13
fbod383 Registered User Trader Feedback: (4) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DSM, IA Posts: 163	Vinnie: After 3 years of helping my buddy with is 4.6 DOHC swap into a 93 Notch, I figured I had to "one up" him. I know I'll be lucky to hit his numbers 840whp (and he has potential to go higher) Its just more bragging rights lol Nutts, I dunno what the SBFs weigh, when this was shipped it weighed 695lbs. That was complete, all sensors, fuel rails, everything. Its a little porker. But, if I wanted to go fast I woulda gotten a Teksid 4.6.. not like it will be slow Ackstang.. I've never been a fan of Mustangs! lol.. hence the Username haha Erich: The V10s came with a forged steel Crank __________________ 90 LX Notch 6.8L V10

03-10-2009, 10:22 AM	#14
fbod383 Registered User Trader Feedback: (4) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DSM, IA Posts: 163	here is where I had to cut the cam cover. Its just the PCV baffle, so there are no clearance issues. gotta weld it up now Moved the motor mounts forward to clear the firewall a little better engines permanent home Wiring harness with all the non-essentials removed.. IE Auto trans stuff, PTO, ABS, etc Did I mention its getting SN95 interior? SN95 pedals moving the motor forward, the trans is still pretty much lined up __________________ 90 LX Notch 6.8L V10

03-10-2009, 10:24 AM	#15
Doc_G Sir Loin of Beef Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Birmingham AL. Posts: 513	Wow that project was/is/will still be alot of work. You've got the exact headlights I'm replacing mine with. Other than the gaps how problematic was the install? Also is/was getting them aimed properly a problem?

03-10-2009, 11:59 AM	#16
fbod383 Registered User Trader Feedback: (4) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DSM, IA Posts: 163	They just go right in. no prolems at all. I have not aimed them yet.. since the car really isn't ready for them lol. But I do think they are great lookin lights __________________ 90 LX Notch 6.8L V10

03-10-2009, 03:05 PM	#17
Doc_G Sir Loin of Beef Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Birmingham AL. Posts: 513	I do too, its why I picked em (cause my car is black too) I just wanted to make sure that they were of good quality as the last time I purchased a one piece head light it was a pan in the sitter. I was looking at the ones on AM, is that where you got yours?

03-10-2009, 03:38 PM	#18
Melon Registered User Trader Feedback: (13) Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Ohio Posts: 679	that should be sweet i just want to see people faces when they ask if it's a 5.0 and you no man it's a v10 they would be like wtf

03-10-2009, 08:27 PM	#20
Hack Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 450	I like the project, but I'm surprised you didn't take a minute to put tape over the intake ports. You obviously aren't lazy, taking on a project like that. __________________ Ask me what I think of Met Life Insurance company. '89 GT w/GT40 top end, Tremec 3550, 3.27 gears, MM panhard, cc plates and LCAs. FRPP lowering springs. '70 convertible 302/C4

03-10-2009, 09:00 PM	#21
fbod383 Registered User Trader Feedback: (4) Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: DSM, IA Posts: 163	Oh, the whole motor is getting torn down. And if I were doing anything over the motor such as grinding or cutting, i'd still cover them. __________________ 90 LX Notch 6.8L V10

03-11-2009, 01:16 PM	#22
Erich Registered User Trader Feedback: (19) Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: MD Posts: 5,323	I really like that shot from the front with the intake ports. That motor is so long! Is it going to be hard to find a place for the turbos? Erich __________________ 97 Laser Red GT-248A Wingless model, Built Lincoln Mark VIII motor-Procharger D1SC, 3 core IC, 60# inj 1989 Sonic Blue Notchback-DIY Twin Turbo, 42# inj, GT40P heads

03-11-2009, 01:17 PM	#23
SilverFoxbody Registered User Trader Feedback: (7) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KCMO Posts: 2,592	I would like to read up on how to do this swap...got any links...like how to get it to run...what eec...ect. __________________ ------------------------- Dan Gilsdorf --------------------------- SilverFoxTrans.com WWW-ClickClickRACING-COM

03-12-2009, 01:15 AM	#24
panteramatt Registered User Trader Feedback: (12) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: nj Posts: 756	That is one of the coolest swaps Ive seen. Cant believe a chebby lover is doing it!

03-12-2009, 02:30 PM	#25
sawbones25 Registered User Trader Feedback: (15) Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: King George, Va. Posts: 488	Subscribing. Can't wait to see this thing finished.

03-12-2009, 10:08 PM	#26
mustangjon Registered User Trader Feedback: (8) Join Date: May 2008 Location: Elsmere ky Posts: 111	nice project, dont let anyone ever tell you something cant be done lol. Just a question hasnt someone came up with a master cylinder relocation setup, i swore i seen it done on a fox before. Just seems easier than chopping the covers up. Keep up the hard work __________________ 1988 lincoln lsc-accel 300+, Fully ported gt40's, ported exploder intake, 1.7 RR, fms ceramic shorties, o/r H pipe, magnadumps, 3:73, v2@8lbs, tko3550 (yes a 5 speed in a lincoln) numbers come soon!!! Still speed density to boot! 1971 mustang in resto limbo- 351 windsor-in bare metal

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Alexandros Registered User Trader Feedback: (2) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: MD Posts: 1,420	I will definitly try that one on a highboy one day, looks like alot of fun.

03-12-2009, 11:12 PM	#28
gnvair Registered User Trader Feedback: (7) Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Southern NJ Posts: 3,462	The V10 is actually a 4.6 with 2 more cylinders, not a 5.4. It shares the same deck height and same rod length as a 4.6. Super Ford had an article years ago where someone adapted the whole set up from an E350 into an SN95. I seem to remember the intake and throttle body were tricky.

03-12-2009, 11:29 PM	#29
abrrymnvette Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: STL, MO Posts: 44	I actually thought about doing this same swap a couple weeks ago since I haven't bought a motor for my notch project yet. But the lack of aftermarket anything made me decide otherwise. But, I didn't know they came factory with forged cranks and that they are just 4.6 w/two more cylinders. That's what I get for being a chevy guy.

03-13-2009, 12:42 AM	#31
92notch306 Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: tucson,az Posts: 233	and heres a vid of that car http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...ang_209567.htm

03-13-2009, 12:47 AM	#32
uchi Registered User Trader Feedback: (2) Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: st catharines Posts: 135	this is fantastic, i saw a vid of some of the guys working for ford did a mule, 02 style mustang with a v10 and it was just great. cant wait to see this finished

03-13-2009, 01:06 PM	#34
Paulie Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Chicagoland, IL Posts: 172	5.4 and 6.8 have the same stroke and same deck height. Do the math. Adding 2 cylinders to a 4.6 does not give you 6.8l.

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