How many of us stock 2v's actually blew up..?

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by rw98gt

your making all that power w/a stock motor??? i thought that a stocker would not handle much more than 400 hp before the internals let go.

that's why i started this thread to find all these guy's making this power and still going...

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by rw98gt

your making all that power w/a stock motor??? i thought that a stocker would not handle much more than 400 hp before the internals let go.

that's why i started this thread to find all these guy's making this power and still going...

[assasinator]

i have h-beam and low CR forged pistons for the turbo motor i'm building, but it seems to me that 02-04's with the small bump in CR have more trouble.

also tuning and luck. for example. .004 ring end gap per inch of bore is pretty standard gap for 1st and 2nd rings, but if combustion temps stay high long enough .004 isnt enough. if you butt the rings you lose the lands immediately. so look there for most of the ring land losses. any hint of detonation will blow the rods first. so a cool runing motor pushed for a short period of time and cooled off between runs should last a while.

even the best tuning cannot prevent a hot spot in the chamber. and pre-ignition. so luck has its place as to having and sharps in the chamber from casting. i would suspect the swirl brows are the culprit. a raised area in the chamber as a focus for heat.

my $.02

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by assasinator

i have h-beam and low CR forged pistons for the turbo motor i'm building, but it seems to me that 02-04's with the small bump in CR have more trouble.

also tuning and luck. for example. .004 ring end gap per inch of bore is pretty standard gap for 1st and 2nd rings, but if combustion temps stay high long enough .004 isnt enough. if you butt the rings you lose the lands immediately. so look there for most of the ring land losses. any hint of detonation will blow the rods first. so a cool runing motor pushed for a short period of time and cooled off between runs should last a while.

even the best tuning cannot prevent a hot spot in the chamber. and pre-ignition. so luck has its place as to having and sharps in the chamber from casting. i would suspect the swirl brows are the culprit. a raised area in the chamber as a focus for heat.

my $.02

good info...thanks for the .02...

[assasinator]

one last little thing.


400rwhp is more than enough for 11.40's in these cars. so rather than focus on more and more power, focus on getting it all down and losing some weight.

:-)

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by assasinator

one last little thing.


400rwhp is more than enough for 11.40's in these cars. so rather than focus on more and more power, focus on getting it all down and losing some weight.

:-)

this is tru..my car is 3800lbs with me in it..

[racer37355]

well i went ahead and ordered another giggle juice kit..im going to drop in 2 step colder plugs..91 octane..and 125 shot. im taking it to the track this time to see how my times improve...either going to hold or its going to puke the insides all over the place! lol good thing i own a roll back cause i think i may need it!

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by racer37355

well i went ahead and ordered another giggle juice kit..im going to drop in 2 step colder plugs..91 octane..and 125 shot. im taking it to the track this time to see how my times improve...either going to hold or its going to puke the insides all over the place! lol good thing i own a roll back cause i think i may need it!

C'MON MAN ULL be just fine..what rpm's are you gonna have the juice hit at??

[01Yell'erGT]

Didn't blow up my motor. But blew a hole im my intake about the size of 3 fist, along with that my cai was all disconnected.

[racer37355]

well the zex kit im getting again will activate at full throttle. so before the flaming starts i like the kit cause it will come on right off the line and you cant tell with my exhaust as loud as it is if im using or not...street racing..who knew! so with my stock axles im not going to push the issue of breaking a axle at the track so i will come out of the hole first gear shift then hit it in second and drive. i havent used the juice with my 430 gears slicks and 3400 stall..so i may have to back out before the finish line at the 8th mile track. i may be safe since i upped my rev limiter to 6600 rpms. it will be a test and tune night for my car.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by racer37355

well the zex kit im getting again will activate at full throttle. so before the flaming starts i like the kit cause it will come on right off the line and you cant tell with my exhaust as loud as it is if im using or not...street racing..who knew! so with my stock axles im not going to push the issue of breaking a axle at the track so i will come out of the hole first gear shift then hit it in second and drive. i havent used the juice with my 430 gears slicks and 3400 stall..so i may have to back out before the finish line at the 8th mile track. i may be safe since i upped my rev limiter to 6600 rpms. it will be a test and tune night for my car.

6600...keep us informed...

[racer37355]

i dont rev the little thing that far!! i try and keep it at 6000..but with a auto it wont shift sometimes before it gets into the limiter and that cost me a race or two so i just set it as high as i could.

[onelx2nv]

Bought my 96GT new in late 96. Ordered it with 3.73's, FRPP cat-back, and a FRPP 9psi centrifugal supercharger as dealer installed items. Powerdyne upgraded the head unit to BD11a specs @ 11psi in 98. Engine had 128K before a rod let loose. think I got my moneys worth.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by onelx2nv

Bought my 96GT new in late 96. Ordered it with 3.73's, FRPP cat-back, and a FRPP 9psi centrifugal supercharger as dealer installed items. Powerdyne upgraded the head unit to BD11a specs @ 11psi in 98. Engine had 128K before a rod let loose. think I got my moneys worth.

dealer installed..! got pics....

[93GRNLXNVA]

just wondering , anybody ever trashed a crank with anything under 550 rwhp , I am still collecting parts for my rebuild and the forged crank and 8 bolt flywheel are only things I am waiting to save up for , but its only going to be about 490-530 rwhp with a S trim so I am thinking about putting the stock crank back in since it looks like brand new when I pulled it out

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by 93GRNLXNVA

just wondering , anybody ever trashed a crank with anything under 550 rwhp , I am still collecting parts for my rebuild and the forged crank and 8 bolt flywheel are only things I am waiting to save up for , but its only going to be about 490-530 rwhp with a S trim so I am thinking about putting the stock crank back in since it looks like brand new when I pulled it out

I have heard the stock crank is plenty good for 600hp....

[93GRNLXNVA]

Originally Posted by redpony01

I have heard the stock crank is plenty good for 600hp....

yea I keep hearing it , just wanna know if anybody has tore one up under that , I guess if I dont see any replies by this weekend , I am going to start putting the bottom end back together saturday or sunday

I have manley pistons , H beam rods , hastings rings , clevite bearings , cobra oil pump and pickup tube , and ARP main studs ready to go

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by 93GRNLXNVA

yea I keep hearing it , just wanna know if anybody has tore one up under that , I guess if I dont see any replies by this weekend , I am going to start putting the bottom end back together saturday or sunday

I have manley pistons , H beam rods , hastings rings , clevite bearings , cobra oil pump and pickup tube , and ARP main studs ready to go

aah man i'm jellon'....yeah alot of people just do the forged crank since they have it all apart for good measure...does that oil pump have the billet gear?

[onelx2nv]

Originally Posted by redpony01

dealer installed..! got pics....

no pics. At least not anything digital. dont think dig. cams even existed yet back then
The car is now N/A with an aluminum explorer long block. The heads are going to be making a trip to MMR in a few weeks for some massaging

[Bullitt4456]

Originally Posted by 93GRNLXNVA

just wondering , anybody ever trashed a crank with anything under 550 rwhp , I am still collecting parts for my rebuild and the forged crank and 8 bolt flywheel are only things I am waiting to save up for , but its only going to be about 490-530 rwhp with a S trim so I am thinking about putting the stock crank back in since it looks like brand new when I pulled it out

I'm sure its happened, but i've never seen or heard of anyone breaking the stock crank.

[racer37355]

ordered my zex kit tuesday afternoon and got it today at noon!! lol took me less than a hour to mount and run everything..now i got to get the bottle filled and try not to waste it in 3 hours!

[orange04gt]

on a 75 shot making 315 to the wheels. split the #8 piston at the 3 ring, destroyed the head, bent the rod, bent the crank, took an 1/8 inch gouge in the cylinder wall. shop yanked the motor out took apart and through it all in the dumpster

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by orange04gt

on a 75 shot making 315 to the wheels. split the #8 piston at the 3 ring, destroyed the head, bent the rod, bent the crank, took an 1/8 inch gouge in the cylinder wall. shop yanked the motor out took apart and through it all in the dumpster

how was ur tune? timing -spark ect....my friend blew his fully built VT motor on a 125 shot because of his plugs..

[racer37355]

i finally had my 4.6 go pow. nos backfire and it ####ed up a lot!!

[F8L WS6]

99 GT. Was running great for a while. Got it cheap with cracked intake. Started smoking one day and noticed oil was slightly low. Refilled it and looks good. Checked it a few days later and was all still there. Drove it around for 2 weeks and didn't bother to check. Big mistake. Took it out and beat on it pretty good. Then came the tapping. Around 98k on the clock.

I've come to find out it also spun a bearing back under warranty and got a new motor.

[justinschmidt1]

this thread makes me want to run more boost all the time

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by justinschmidt1

this thread makes me want to run more boost all the time

[Speeds8erM-1]

Originally Posted by NJBlackGT

Speeds8erM-1,

That was some great video! I have to say very good entertainment for a Tues. night in my living room 19" computer monitor. Quite funny and creative with the captions too. Not sure if you put it together or not, but good work whoever did.

Yea, I did it, thanks. He has since hurt his MMR 900 Motor that he put in the car after that video was made. Injectors were at close to 100% duty cycle in the summer, winter came along, car picked up 1.5 psi and well, lets just say two of the pistons didnt make it. The same week, his brother's pullied Lightning blew up with 105k miles, two broken rods.

That damn reman Ford motor in the 02 GT has outlasted them all so far lol!

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/V...-GT_176099.htm

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/V...G35_176491.htm

Lightning blows up here
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/L...-vs_198368.htm

[redpony01]

thats some good driving bro...nice hurting ya put on the mighty z06..

[wld_wst]

Never happen to me, but detonation is how I got my block from a kid I worked with in FLA. He was pushing about 10psi when the engine gave up.

[Speeds8erM-1]

Originally Posted by redpony01

thats some good driving bro...nice hurting ya put on the mighty z06..

Not mine, friend's car

[Red2002gt]

Originally Posted by chefalan23

this thread scares the #### outta me

i bet it does