How many of us stock 2v's actually blew up..?

[burningtire]

Nice video, vteckiller.

Looks/sounds like a beast.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by vteckiller2000

www.kurganmotorsports.com

thanks...

[vteckiller2000]

Originally Posted by redpony01

thanks...

Don't mention it.

[justinschmidt1]

Ive been running 10 psi intercooled on my 96 gt with pi intake, l/t and other bolt ons for a bit.


115k and seems to be running fine

I think im gonna bump the boost up to 12 psi.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by justinschmidt1

Ive been running 10 psi intercooled on my 96 gt with pi intake, l/t and other bolt ons for a bit.


115k and seems to be running fine

I think im gonna bump the boost up to 12 psi.

GO FOR IT....

[swinerton]

Been running almost 13psi non-IC'ed all year, with over 25 passes down the strip, and 200 miles driven a week.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by swinerton

Been running almost 13psi non-IC'ed all year, with over 25 passes down the strip, and 200 miles driven a week.

IS UR REAR END BUILT?

[swinerton]

Nope. Just 3.73's and stock 28 spline axles. 31 spline setup going in possibly next week. Last time at the track, my ET streets hooked hard and bogged the engine from 4500 down to 2600 lol. I need to launch at about 5300rpm or so, I might try it Friday.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by swinerton

Nope. Just 3.73's and stock 28 spline axles. 31 spline setup going in possibly next week. Last time at the track, my ET streets hooked hard and bogged the engine from 4500 down to 2600 lol. I need to launch at about 5300rpm or so, I might try it Friday.

lol..i'll have to put some sticky tires on in october and toss caution to the wind...it should be good i'll be pushing 14-16lbs boost..gonna launch hard and cross my fingers...first 11+sec pass and i'm calling it a day....

[rw98gt]

i have been running 75mm BBK throttle body, C&L plenum, DIABLOSPORT tunner,& a POWERDYNE supercharger w/6lbs of boost w/a boost pump for 3 years and just today i swaped out the pulley w/an 11lb pulley(there is quite a difference). we'll see how long it stays together. OH! and this winter i will be installing my PI heads w/comp cams 270's w/bee hive springs. yea, i'm pretty sure it's going to blow up after that, we'll see.

[burningtire]

I need some boost...

Nice home-built single turbo setup would do me good, thanks!!!

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by rw98gt

i have been running 75mm BBK throttle body, C&L plenum, DIABLOSPORT tunner,& a POWERDYNE supercharger w/6lbs of boost w/a boost pump for 3 years and just today i swaped out the pulley w/an 11lb pulley(there is quite a difference). we'll see how long it stays together. OH! and this winter i will be installing my PI heads w/comp cams 270's w/bee hive springs. yea, i'm pretty sure it's going to blow up after that, we'll see.

just keep putting a little away every day for the NEW set up....

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by burningtire

I need some boost...

Nice home-built single turbo setup would do me good, thanks!!!

do it ...keep us posted..

[93GRNLXNVA]

8lbs non intercooled for 6000miles , 10lbs intercooled for another 20K plus miles and then 2 ringlands let go at 6300 RPM , rebuilding now

[SxyNerd]

Originally Posted by redpony01

i was just wondering about this i know a few guys pushing their stock bottom end 2v's way past the recommended power and their still going strong..i pushed mine @16lbs boost with no tune for awhile and still have no issues..and all i hear are horror stories from mechanics where are these people..!

I just blew mine... 190/195 across the board then 120 on cylinder 8. It's so freakin crazy cause I've never known anyone to ruin that cylinder. 4&5 every time because of the hotter pooling coolant.

[burningtire]

Originally Posted by redpony01

do it ...keep us posted..

I'd love to man, its the ultimate goal for my self to learn how to construct a kit, and have it work reliably.

I am short on $ at this point though, so it's on the back burner...

May get a cheap fix and run some spray through it soon though, lol.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by burningtire

I'd love to man, its the ultimate goal for my self to learn how to construct a kit, and have it work reliably.

I am short on $ at this point though, so it's on the back burner...

May get a cheap fix and run some spray through it soon though, lol.

well from what i have bin seeing alot of guys selling their already built cars for next to nothing...just something to consider...

[racer37355]

im killed 2 tranys and one ring and pinion. i learned from the first trans to not use giggle juice in o/d ..burns the o/d band up at 50,000 miles. the rear end was a factory installed screw up!! it knife edged the pinion gear but the 430 gear is doing GREAT! i hope to someday to toast my motor but at 71,xxx miles the damn thing is going strong! i see a 5.4,cams, and more gas when it dies.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by racer37355

im killed 2 tranys and one ring and pinion. i learned from the first trans to not use giggle juice in o/d ..burns the o/d band up at 50,000 miles. the rear end was a factory installed screw up!! it knife edged the pinion gear but the 430 gear is doing GREAT! i hope to someday to toast my motor but at 71,xxx miles the damn thing is going strong! i see a 5.4,cams, and more gas when it dies.

are you spraying or s/c'd...

[Sea Pony]

Originally Posted by racer37355

I hope to someday to toast my motor but at 71,xxx miles the damn thing is going strong! i see a 5.4,cams, and more gas when it dies.

ok see this is what I am talking about. This is a guy keeping things in perspective. So what if it blows up! Just the excuse I need to come up with a BIG FAT UPGRADE! And I say more power (literally and figuratively) to you!

My 92K NPI motor has never been opened up. I have run gears, CAI and some exhaust upgrades for about 40K. I drive with enthusiasm, but I do rely on this car for everyday use, so whether I mean to do it or not, I must be going easy on it.

Common problems I have seen in reading posts like this over the last 10 years;
Very high RPM's. Doesn't matter how rich they set it up at the factory, if you top it out you will lean it out and break ring lands.

Power adders and the leaner tune that usually goes with them. as a rule of thumb, spraying or boosting these 2v's wears 'em out.

Plain old variability: It is a fact. Assembly tolerances allow for some head bolts, mains, etc. to be torqued down too hard, or not hard enough. ALL cars are like this, but they way most people drive, problems do not really ever become problems. Most drivers don't push their equipment the way we as enthusiasts do.

I think what I have learned is this: If I go for a power adder I intend to be as picky as possible about who does the build, based at least as much on their durability record as on the performance gains they achieve.

[racer37355]

i havent had the spray in almost a year. ive been running all motor and it gets driven everyday to work and every place i go. hell i drove it to indiana with my 90/10s,50/50s,no sway bars,eibach drag springs with no problems other than a blown manifold gasket after i got there. the main rule i live by is if your going to play well your going to pay sooner or later! im still shooting for a 7.9x in the 8th with a all stock 4.6 with a 4r70w trans. i think im going to swap out the 3400 stall and go up to a 4000 stall with a trans refresh after summer. ill be getting the spray back before too long..people are starting to catch me up top so more is needed.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by racer37355

i havent had the spray in almost a year. ive been running all motor and it gets driven everyday to work and every place i go. hell i drove it to indiana with my 90/10s,50/50s,no sway bars,eibach drag springs with no problems other than a blown manifold gasket after i got there. the main rule i live by is if your going to play well your going to pay sooner or later! im still shooting for a 7.9x in the 8th with a all stock 4.6 with a 4r70w trans. i think im going to swap out the 3400 stall and go up to a 4000 stall with a trans refresh after summer. ill be getting the spray back before too long..people are starting to catch me up top so more is needed.

4000 stall should do the trick with the spray...

[racer37355]

im very close right now with the set up i have now..i think it just needs a little more tuning and the right weather.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by racer37355

im very close right now with the set up i have now..i think it just needs a little more tuning and the right weather.

tuning is key....get it right and enjoy!!

[Ream5079]

Originally Posted by Speeds8erM-1

My friend got his Vortech 02 GT back in 05 with 15k miles on it, already had a Vortech S Trim on it, he put LT's and Crower Stage II Cams in it. He finally got it retuned awhile after that and beat the FUGG OUT OF IT for 1.5 years, making 431 rwhp, before it broke a ringland at 49000 miles. When he pulled the motor, it had a reman Ford motor in it.

This isnt even a 10th of the races that car has seen lol

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/V...-vs_154001.htm

Awesome video!!

[LaserRed]

Ron still has the stock bottom end. Here's a quote from another post.

Originally Posted by primetime

snip... Boost doesn't break motors, detonation does. I have been running a blower since early 2000 and haven't had and currently don't have any issues with the car. Granted it isn't a daily driver but it gets driven hard and taken to the track on a somewhat regular basis. On average I am pushing 14+psi at redline(6700rpm). Keeping good fuel pressure, having a good safe tune, maintaining the car properly(plugs, fluids, etc.), driving the car smart(not going full boost when the car is totally cold), etc. will do wonders. JMHO and personal experience. later Ron

And in case you're wondering Lidio is who tuned it.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by LaserRed

Ron still has the stock bottom end. Here's a quote from another post.

And in case you're wondering Lidio is who tuned it.

some more good info...

[Redman]

Windsor 2v > Romeo 2v

Most of the blown up stories are Romeo Engines. Look at all the posts from the 99-2000 Windsor guys. They all brag about upper 400's power numbers and still going strong. The one guy with the 99/00 and a blown up motor says it somehow was an early npi romeo engine.

I don't know exactly the differences, but it seems like the windsor motors are much stronger.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by Redman

Windsor 2v > Romeo 2v

Most of the blown up stories are Romeo Engines. Look at all the posts from the 99-2000 Windsor guys. They all brag about upper 400's power numbers and still going strong. The one guy with the 99/00 and a blown up motor says it somehow was an early npi romeo engine.

I don't know exactly the differences, but it seems like the windsor motors are much stronger.

i have a romeo ...

[Redman]

Originally Posted by redpony01

i have a romeo ...

"Look at all the posts from the 99-2000 Windsor guys. They all brag about upper 400's power numbers and still going strong."

[burningtire]

I don't know, thats a tough one.

It seems most of the posts that are about spun rod bearings involve Windsor 4.6's.

Plus there are less Windsor 4.6 'Stangs on the road than there are Romeo 4.6 ones, not as likely to find a blown Windsor 4.6 Mustang.


Although, i'd like to get some positive proof behind that, as my GT has a Windsor motor...

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by burningtire

I don't know, thats a tough one.

It seems most of the posts that are about spun rod bearings involve Windsor 4.6's.

Plus there are less Windsor 4.6 'Stangs on the road than there are Romeo 4.6 ones, not as likely to find a blown Windsor 4.6 Mustang.


Although, i'd like to get some positive proof behind that, as my GT has a Windsor motor...

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[Chris00GT]

My 00GT is still going strong. Just raced a Shelby GT500 on the street last week and had fun beating him :-) The look on the guys face was priceless...LOL.

[redpony01]

Originally Posted by Chris00GT

My 00GT is still going strong. Just raced a Shelby GT500 on the street last week and had fun beating him :-) The look on the guys face was priceless...LOL.

now thats a great story! and some sick power ur making theer...

[rw98gt]

Originally Posted by Chris00GT

My 00GT is still going strong. Just raced a Shelby GT500 on the street last week and had fun beating him :-) The look on the guys face was priceless...LOL.

your making all that power w/a stock motor??? i thought that a stocker would not handle much more than 400 hp before the internals let go.