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Paulywalnuts446 · 04-25-2009, 10:18 PM

just venting............., installing shorty headers on 97 cobra, doing everything that people say to do even jacking up engine and its still a pain. having trouble getting to rear pass side bolts on header, just cant fit my ####en hand in thier, these engines r like fitting 10 lbs of #### into a 5 lb bag. cant imagine putting longtubes on.

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

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JohnnyReb · 04-25-2009, 11:45 PM

Longtubes are a major, major pain. I cut a combination wrench in two to make it short enough to fit in a couple of places. Its easy to cross thread those aluminum holes, too. A universal (some folks call them wobble head sockets) comes in handy as well.

Most guys won't attempt a header install on these cars without dropping the 'K' member.

98cammer · 04-26-2009, 05:44 AM

I feel your pain. I have wanted to do longtubes on mine for a while but looking at it I cant bring myself to take on the terror. I put a set of BBK equal length headers on my 94gt and that was bad enough. I can only imagine your frustration.

ARCANGL · 04-26-2009, 03:04 PM

i def woulda dropped the K

ive done LT's twice on 2V's and its not bad at all really once the K is gone. Obviously yall are wider, but life would be much easier for you with the K out of the way.

Paulywalnuts446 · 04-29-2009, 09:48 PM

well update.... still not done lmao, also broke the heater core hose while jacking up engine, so now need to get one of those, also had to cut off the drivers side rear egr tube that connected to the header b/c it was pretty much welded on thier.. lol does anyone know what its made out of? is it steel?

csgoody · 04-29-2009, 09:56 PM

My friend also drops the k member. fwiw

jscott1176 · 04-30-2009, 08:23 AM

Dropping the K-member is the only way for either shorties or LT's. IMHO with all that is involved, and the minimal gains (with shorties) I would only do this for a set of LT's. A competent mechanic can have the K-member dropped in about an hour. That will save you more than an hour of frustration later on when the headers fit right up, and you can access all the bolts. Just my $.02

oldmanbullitt · 04-30-2009, 11:29 PM

Set of BBK equal length shorties headers for a 4.6 with engine out of the car & the engine on a stand! It still a pain in the A##

Purple Haze · 05-01-2009, 01:50 AM

With the trouble, I would have dropped the K-member and installed long tubes. I don't really buy into the whole "my car is lowered" b.s. as mine has been lowered for more than 10 years and I really haven't had any problems scraping the headers in more than six states and 50k miles as long as you don't approach steep inclines perpendicular.

04-25-2009, 10:18 PM	#1
Paulywalnuts446 Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NY Posts: 269	shorty header install PAIN IN F@#$Ken ASS F@#$K just venting............., installing shorty headers on 97 cobra, doing everything that people say to do even jacking up engine and its still a pain. having trouble getting to rear pass side bolts on header, just cant fit my ####en hand in thier, these engines r like fitting 10 lbs of #### into a 5 lb bag. cant imagine putting longtubes on. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH:liv id:

04-25-2009, 11:45 PM	#2
JohnnyReb Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Helenwood, Tenn. Taxpayer Revolt of 1861-65 Posts: 1,498	Longtubes are a major, major pain. I cut a combination wrench in two to make it short enough to fit in a couple of places. Its easy to cross thread those aluminum holes, too. A universal (some folks call them wobble head sockets) comes in handy as well. Most guys won't attempt a header install on these cars without dropping the 'K' member. __________________ 1996 Laser Red Cobra #64 Detroit Locker, Moser 31 spline axles, 4.56, Hooker Longtubes with 'X', ASP pullies, UPR Powerpipe CAI, SSR Ported Intake, Ripper shifter, UPR double adj. uppers, solid housing bushings, Mega Bite Jr. lowers, MM full length subframe connectors, UPR chrome moly k/member, a/arms, coilovers and Strange adj. front shocks. Tuned by Jerry. 26 x 8 1/2 x 15 ET Drags 8.11 @ 84.64 1/8 mile 12.91 @ 107.05 - before headers, SSR intake, suspension and tune. Last edited by JohnnyReb; 04-25-2009 at 11:48 PM.

04-26-2009, 05:44 AM	#3
98cammer Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Mid Michigan Posts: 213	I feel your pain. I have wanted to do longtubes on mine for a while but looking at it I cant bring myself to take on the terror. I put a set of BBK equal length headers on my 94gt and that was bad enough. I can only imagine your frustration. __________________ Dan 98 cobra vert red with black interior, 4.10 motive performance gears, mac o/r h-pipe, 2chamber flows, C&L true flow inlet pipe & 80mm maf kit, maximum motorsports full length subframes, 275 40 17 BFG DR's, and a hurst shifter.

04-26-2009, 03:04 PM	#4
ARCANGL Corral Elite Member Trader Feedback: (50) Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Ocean Springs, MS Posts: 7,602	i def woulda dropped the K ive done LT's twice on 2V's and its not bad at all really once the K is gone. Obviously yall are wider, but life would be much easier for you with the K out of the way. __________________ 04 GT - Comp Orange - Daily Driver - New setup in the works, new numbers soon!! Old numbers/times: 412rw/468tq: 11.64@117.40 98 GT vert - Crystal White - Al P built Aviator 4V swap, CP pistons, Manley Billet rods, Cobra crank, P/P Heads, Sully Intake, Al P cams, Hellion T76 turbo, Pro-flow plate kit, PHP 4R70W w/4500 stall - back burner for now RIP: 05 GT - 440rw/382tq

04-30-2009, 08:23 AM	#7
jscott1176 Registered User Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dearborn, MI Posts: 520	Dropping the K-member is the only way for either shorties or LT's. IMHO with all that is involved, and the minimal gains (with shorties) I would only do this for a set of LT's. A competent mechanic can have the K-member dropped in about an hour. That will save you more than an hour of frustration later on when the headers fit right up, and you can access all the bolts. Just my $.02 __________________ 2kGT - 5.4L Power, Comp XE270AH Cams, TwEECer HPS Hardball'r, TF Elbow, 75mm TB Best ET: 13.4 @ 104 - New dyno #'s coming soon...

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04-29-2009, 09:48 PM	#5
Paulywalnuts446 Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: NY Posts: 269	well update.... still not done lmao, also broke the heater core hose while jacking up engine, so now need to get one of those, also had to cut off the drivers side rear egr tube that connected to the header b/c it was pretty much welded on thier.. lol does anyone know what its made out of? is it steel?

04-29-2009, 09:56 PM	#6
csgoody Registered User Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: witch city ,mass Posts: 2,351	My friend also drops the k member. fwiw

04-30-2009, 11:29 PM	#8
oldmanbullitt Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Burleson TX Posts: 25	Set of BBK equal length shorties headers for a 4.6 with engine out of the car & the engine on a stand! It still a pain in the A##

05-01-2009, 01:50 AM	#9
Purple Haze Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: Texas Posts: 4,782	With the trouble, I would have dropped the K-member and installed long tubes. I don't really buy into the whole "my car is lowered" b.s. as mine has been lowered for more than 10 years and I really haven't had any problems scraping the headers in more than six states and 50k miles as long as you don't approach steep inclines perpendicular.

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