Young's Performance twin turbo

[TangerineStang]

I just read about about their new modular twin turbo kits in the Sep. issue of 5.0(page 172). I can't find any other info on this project. Does anyone know anything about this shop? Do they have a website?

[primetime]

I was wondering the same thing? I am going to try to call them in the next few days to get some more details. later Ron

[99 GT Coupe sw]

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[TangerineStang]

http://www.youngsperformance.com/

I just answered my own question. Should have looked first.

[Mike Edwards]

I work at Young's Performance. We just have a little info on our website www.youngsperformance.com . Check back every couple weeks or so, we'll try to keep it updated with progress and pictures. At this point we are still building prototype manifolds, charge tubes and downpipes.

I'll try to answer any questions that I see here on the corral. You can also email me with any questions at mte4178@tntech.edu or Dyn43@aol.com.

If anyone has any suggestions on anything you would like to see in this kit feel free to say so. We are striving to provide a user friendly and oem quality kits.

[00MustangGT]

That's awesome that you guys are in Decatur! I live in Huntsville. I am VERY interested in this! Could I see your shop?

[TangerineStang]

Mike Edwards,


I was hoping to build up a DOHC motor to put in my 96 GT and would be very interested in putting a turbo system on as well. Are you guys planning to build a twin-turbo Cobra kit? I didn't see it mentioned on the website, but it said so in the magazine article. Thanks.

[JOEYS]

I would like a turbo kit for my slowbra. However I won't believe it until I see it.


Don't tell me you guys are giving the cobra a back seat to the GT as far as release date goes

C"mon!!!!

[COBRASVT]

I'm interested....in the Cobra kit...

[Mike Edwards]

Sorry to take so long to reply.

Originally we werent' planning on building a kit for the cobra because we didn't think the volume would be there to justify building a kit. Think how many Cobras are sold per year versus the GT's. To do some of the things we want to do we need high volume.

Since they put "cobra" in the article in 5.0 magazine we have been swamped with calls about cobra kits. So, we decided we are going to do one. We are looking for a car to start working on right now and hopefully we will be able to offer the Cobra kit at the same time.

[Z06KILLR]

so when is the scheduled release date of these kits and do you have any pricing ideas? These are twin turbo kits and not single like TDC?

[JOEYS]

Originally posted by Mike Edwards
Sorry to take so long to reply.

Originally we werent' planning on building a kit for the cobra because we didn't think the volume would be there to justify building a kit. Think how many Cobras are sold per year versus the GT's. To do some of the things we want to do we need high volume.

Since they put "cobra" in the article in 5.0 magazine we have been swamped with calls about cobra kits. So, we decided we are going to do one. We are looking for a car to start working on right now and hopefully we will be able to offer the Cobra kit at the same time.

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even thought there is a ton of GT's running around most are all stock. People buy the car's just to "drive"
where as most people buying cobra's are car nuts and spending the extra money for performance and are more likely to do mods!

[TangerineStang]

Here's what it says on the website




We are currently in the development stages of a twin turbo kit for 1999 – present 4.6L 2V Mustangs. This kit will be a true bolt on; no additional hardware or components will be necessary. This kit is being developed and marketed in conjunction with Turbonetics Inc., whose turbochargers and components will be used throughout the kit. Two kits will be available; the Stage 1 kit will be rated at 450 hp, while the Stage 2 kit will be rated at 600 hp. Production Stage 1 kits will tenatively be available to the public in the spring of 2003. We will post updates on this website as the kits are developed.

[Mike Edwards]

It's a little to early to give release date for either the GT or Cobra, but we are shooting for the first quarter of next year on both. It could be sooner, hard to tell. We can't work on this project all the time, it doesn't pay the bills right now, but we are making good progress. We don't want to throw a kit together that is difficult to install and everything needs tweeking. It will be very high quality, but that takes time.

As far as prices. We are trying really hard to keep it in the same range as the intercooled supercharger kits from the other manufacturers.

Z06KILLR- These are going to be twin turbo kits.

[COBRASVT]

Originally posted by Mike Edwards


As far as prices. We are trying really hard to keep it in the same range as the intercooled supercharger kits from the other manufacturers.

Then I would deffinately be in for a Cobra kit! I would be willing to bet you could probably sell 5 right off the bad here alone...

GP anyone?

edit: I can't type! Geeeese

[Bluenightmare]

Hey Mike how about a kit for those of us with 96-97 GT's

I was saving for an eaton supercharger kit, but would love a twin turbo instead.

How about that Mike, is there any hope for those of us with the earlier car's?

As for the cobra guy's comments,

Just because some of use could not afford the cobra's high entry price, doesn't mean that we are not car people. We need all the help we can get. I mean there the aftermarket is not really supporting us. The cobra guys have more choices for SC's, manifolds, headers and cams then the Gt people do.

Mike, please take this as a request for the gt kit to be created for the 96-97 guys too.

thanx

[Mike Edwards]

Bluenightmare- I'm sure the 99-2002 kits will fit the 96-98 cars as far as hardware, but the engine management and fuel system requirements are different. We will be selling the kits without fuel system and engine management for 96-98 GT and Cobras when we start selling 99-02 kits. It won't be much longer after that when we start selling complete 96-98 kits with all the extras.

I know there is a pretty big demand from both GT and Cobra kits, so don't worry everyone should be able to get what they want.

We haven't gotten into the distribution and sales part of this project yet, but I hope we will be able to do some group purchases.

[BMS]

I think I'm falling in love.

[FlowJack]

very intriguing...officially subscribed to this thread!

[primetime]

Originally posted by JOEYS
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even thought there is a ton of GT's running around most are all stock. People buy the car's just to "drive"
where as most people buying cobra's are car nuts and spending the extra money for performance and are more likely to do mods!

Dude, Get a clue! Your statement is rediculous. Care to run my GT? Yeah it's a vert and I am sure no one mods them later Ron

[Mr Joshua]

people buy V6's to drive...
people buy GT's to mod
people buy Cobra's to mod Heavily

[primetime]

Originally posted by Black99CobraMofo
people buy V6's to drive...
people buy GT's to mod
people buy Cobra's to mod Heavily

Hmm well the 2001 Cobra in my garage is 100% bonestock and the GT is pretty modded so I think it is based on the individual. To each there own I just don't like the all mighty Cobra attitude that some people portray.(I said some not all!) later Ron

[tirefryr]

Hey Mike, what do you say I give you guys my cobra for the R&D, and you just throw in the turbo kit. You can keep it as long as you need it.

[tirefryr]

Hey Mike, I believe I read a magazine article a while ago about your shop. Didn't you guys do some work on the Scranton's car?

[J.Monaghen]

Hey Mike, how about a Lightning Kit??? j.k.

Ron, I think you and black99CobraMofo are correct when theories are combined. People (namely women) buy V6s to drive to Universal Studios and back to their cheeze factory homes. People buy GT's to mod and run, and the production limited Cobras are split down the middle, some buy for the exclusivity over the GT, and some want the performance and potential factor of the Cobra over the GT.

Would I love to see the turbo made for the Cobra, Hell F**kin Yeah! But I could also understand if it wasn't made, due to exuberant R&D costs that couldn't be offset by the purchase amounts.

I commend you guys at Young's, you are stepping up to the plate to produce what people want, and also stepping into one of the biggest Mustang Internet Chat Pissing Matches known to man.

Good luck, and happy manufacturing.
joe

[Mike Edwards]

RavenGT- Thanks for the compliments. I'm sure someone will try to adapt this kit to a lightning. I've thought about it myself We've had some calls from Tbird and Crown-vic owners expressing interest in the 2 valve kit, who knows.

Tirefryr- We dynoed the Scrantons motor in both their mustang and import car and give a little trackside support fromt time to time. We usually do custom fabrication for Outlaw 10.5, Pro 5.0 and Super Street cars.

[vetkilr]

I have a head-swap car with low compression(1998)your kit will be calibrated for a non-return style fuel system.Wouldnt the 98 and older mods be easier to adapt this kit too.It would only take a chip and good tuner and FMU.Ill be ready in the first quarter with some BILLS how about something for us lowly head-swappers.What is the diff. going to be 99up vs. 98 and older?I know its early yet but do you think it will be cheaper or more expensive for the return sytle older mod motor guys?

And Cobras are for old guys with money, that like to think they are important .When I went to get my car in 98 I got my car for 19,100 out the door from the 24,700 and they wanted 29,200 for a cobra out the door down from 32,000 sticker,Ive put into my car 6000 dollars.
19,100+6000=25,100
Stock 98 cobra 29,000
The 6000 includes a NOS kit,drag susp.,Mt Et streets and lots more, so you tell me a stock 98 cobra that can run a 12.4 @110 in the quarter and Ill trash my car and buy the best mustang on the planet the all mighty cobra......I still have 4000 left just to break even as far as money goes.Guess what my built shortblock,cams,and Lt are going to cost.Man and the cobras at the track already cry when I beat them, cant wait till the motor is done.
Sorry cobra owners had to vent a little you already have the KB kit available about time someone showed the us the lowly GT owners of the world a little attn.
Done venting now...Man I feel better!!!!!
JOEL a lowly and poor middle class american with only a gt to keep me company

[SVT1998GT]

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[tirefryr]

And Cobras are for old guys with money, that like to think they are important .When I went to get my car in 98 I got my car for 19,100 out the door from the 24,700 and they wanted 29,200 for a cobra out the door down from 32,000 sticker,Ive put into my car 6000 dollars. 19,100+6000=25,100
Stock 98 cobra 29,000
The 6000 includes a NOS kit,drag susp.,Mt Et streets and lots more, so you tell me a stock 98 cobra that can run a 12.4 @110 in the quarter and Ill trash my car and buy the best mustang on the planet the all mighty cobra......I still have 4000 left just to break even as far as money goes.Guess what my built shortblock,cams,and Lt are going to cost.Man and the cobras at the track already cry when I beat them, cant wait till the motor is done.
Sorry cobra owners had to vent a little you already have the KB kit available about time someone showed the us the lowly GT owners of the world a little attn.
Done venting now...Man I feel better!!!!!
JOEL a lowly and poor middle class american with only a gt to keep me company

Okay, I've got to comment on this one. First off, I am by no means an old man. I am 23 years old and have wanted a Cobra since '93. So I proceeded to work my A*# off to get one! I'm sick of all the stereotyping everyone gives to the Cobra owners. Yes, the overall majority of the cars that are modded are GTs. Why, because they are affordable for the most part. IF you could get a Cobra for the price of the GT which would you choose? Now you sit here ranting abouot the money you've put into your car and the performance you've attained. I'm glad to hear it all went well, BUT, take the same mods and put them on a Cobra. I guarantee the CObra will be victorious. IT's just a better platform to start from than the GT, IF YOU HAVE THE MONEY. You shouldn't ridicule anyone because they CAN afford a car. And not all have them handed to them or are over the hill.

[vetkilr]

True your not old,my bad. And what do you run in the 1/4? Enough said.
JOEL

[J.Monaghen]

Joel, relax! This thread isn't a "Lowly Headswapper's" pissing match, so don't turn it into one.

What are you runnin Naturally Aspirated, Joel? Slap a bottle on anything, and better times can be expected. So quit pissin on this guy...

joe

[tirefryr]

And what do you run in the 1/4? Enough said.

FYI, I have set my car up for road racing. I have taken it to the strip only once. And that was the day I drove it of the dealer's lot. Bone stock I ran a 13.68 with tires spinning and I am a terrible driver. THere have been many instances when I have wanted to step down to a GT simply because the expense for parts and the greedy insurance company, but it would just not satisfy me. I wanted a Cobra, and I got one. Are you saying you wouldn't want one?

[Mike Edwards]

We are building the kits for the 99-02 first because the 96-98 will easy to adapt to from there. We haven't researched it a lot yet, but the plan is to get this kit certified for california emissions and starting with the newest year might make the previous years easier to get approved.

I hope this thread hasn't fallen off track. The real enemys are those pesky LS1 owners not your fellow ford enthusiast.

[tirefryr]

I agree. Sorry for getting of track. Just took offense to some ignorance I don't understand. Mike, I read somewhere that you would not be able to pass emissions tests with a single turbo setup. Is this true? Does it have something to do with the O2 sensors?

[Mike Edwards]

Passing emissions depends on where you live. Some places only test for combustion byproducts (sniffer test). Others are now testing with OBD II scanners and Callifornia emissions is much more stringent (chassis dyno with all kinds of tests). Some places don't test at all.

As I understand with a single turbo, you can pass the sniffer with good tuning but the OBD II I don't know about. Kits have to have a CARB approval to pass California emissions. With our kit you will be able to retain the factory h-pipe if desired and all emissions gear. If we can tune this thing well enough to pass California emissions and get CARB approval it will be good everywhere. If I'm off here on the California emissions someone point me in the right direction. We havn'et gotten to that part of the project yet, but I'm trying to find out what I can.