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fastback289 · 11-05-2009, 02:52 PM

I'm don't have a bov but I'm puttin ine on Saturday and I will also be doing a compression test and check everthing out. The injectors are new I got them off if here but they guy didn't even us them, same as the maf. The maf is still in the motor
compartment. This weekend I'm going to do everthing yall told
me to do with the timing and see how it turns out. Thanks

slow87GT · 11-05-2009, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastback289

No stud mount

you NEED hardened push rods!

where/who is the chip from? is it a blower tune?

does it puff smoke at all?

fastback289 · 11-05-2009, 03:10 PM

The car runs good that the thjng. It's running the best it has in a while. I had the supercharger belt off and it ran basicly the same. So I'm not sure where
to go because it running good right now but not sure about the pinging I have not ran it out yet. So right now I'm trying to find another dyno shop and fixing the things that need to be done and checking everthing out.

fastback289 · 11-05-2009, 03:12 PM

It's a blower tune yes. It's a sct chip and no there's no smkoe coming out at all. I was told by a guy at afr that I don't need harden pushrods

19notchback90 · 11-05-2009, 03:31 PM

well after the tuner "fixed it" where it can rev to an amazing 4500 what were the dyno numbers? and if you say 275hp the car is obviously not running right. just listent o everyone else. pull the chip out, set the base timing at 8* or maybe 10* and go from there.. also do check your plugs.. .platinums are horrid...

slow87GT · 11-05-2009, 03:34 PM

i still think i would try running it locked out at 18

you need hardened pushrods, if you dont get them, the stock pushrods will wear out on the guide plates, itll put metal debri through your motor and eventually break some guideplates and pushrods

at this point id do a compression check and verify your running on all 8 cylinders

carpediem50 · 11-05-2009, 03:40 PM

So it runs the same whether the blower belt is on or off? And you haven't looked into this further?

slow87GT · 11-05-2009, 03:51 PM

^^^it will have a restriction pulling air through a turbine that is not spinning. the right approach would be to relocate the maf at the front of the discharge tube but even then it will run poorly with a blower tune, you'd have to yank the chip, and even then, if the maf is cal'd for a blower, it will still probably run like crap

Michael Yount · 11-05-2009, 04:51 PM

"....still at dyno....." Man - you've been there for like a week, no?

331D1SCGT · 11-05-2009, 04:55 PM

your car should make the same nmbers or more to the rear wheels without the blower on it. there is something wrong, please, pull the chip and set the timing as everyone has stated, start there.

hotrod496 · 11-05-2009, 04:57 PM

CAMSHAFT IS OUT TIMING. i HAVE SEEN CAMS SO FAR OFF, THE WORST ONE WAS 9 DEGREES RETARTED... THAT WOULD CAUSE PINGING FOR SURE. AND LOSS OF POWER

NotchAbove · 11-05-2009, 05:01 PM

Not even sure why I am responding to this, the answer or at least an excellent starting point was noted dozens of times.

Problem #1 - 15* of base timing and a chip = too much timing
Problem #2 - Pushrods - You absolutely need hardened ones with stud rockers
Problem #3 - An person who asks for advice, gets good advice and does nothing with it.

Slow347 · 11-06-2009, 11:59 AM

At this whole thread!!!!
Very entertaining reading.....

Shortzy · 11-06-2009, 01:53 PM

the funniest part of this whole thread is where you ask us for help, then tell us your car is running at its best... WTF?

onefastsvt · 11-06-2009, 02:06 PM

Quote:

I'm don't have a bov but I'm puttin ine on Saturday
edited: I don't have a bov but I'm installing one on saturday (correct?)

If my edit is correct, a bov? on a novi 1000 at 6-7lbs. Dude, you are in way over your head. I would park the car until you have enough money saved to have a real performance shop look at the car. You are going to have a catastrophic failure that is going to cost you a motor. LUK

tireburner163 · 11-06-2009, 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fastback289

autolites 23 heat range

So you mean autolite 23's or 3923's?

23's are the plugs you use for a stock head. 3923's are what you need for your AFR's. If you have 23's in the motor your plugs won't even protrude into combustion chamber and the car will run like crap.

And for the 16th time.

Set the timing at 8* initial and pull the chip out

93GRNLX · 11-13-2009, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by fastback289

Ok right off the back thanks for all the help. The thing is I never heard it pinging that was the tuner. Tps never answer any of my Calls. So I'm not sure what to say.

I doubt this highly , I bet with one email I can get Wes in this thread and to call you if you post your cell up ill get him to call you and your tuner

Who is your tuner by the way ?

OH and you DO NEED HARDENED PUSHRODS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and 3923 autolites , NOT 23s , I have had 2 guys bring me cars to tune in the last 4 months that were running autolight 25s in cars with trickflow heads , does nobody read instructions anymore ?

Realspeed Dan · 11-14-2009, 12:55 AM

Those plugs you are running are wrong and could cost you 50 horsepower or more. That is why I check the plugs on every car I tune, regardless of the car owner tells me...

Based on similar basket-case cars that have come in to my shop lately I bet there is WAY MORE than just 1 problem keeping the car from making power.

If the ignition wires/coil/plugs/cap/rotor are bad the tuner has no hope of tuning the car right until the mechanical/electrical issues are fixed first. Its not even fair to say theat the car "only makes XXX horspower" if he can't even do a full pull to 6000 rpm.

You need to pull the car out of the shop and start over with everything right first before you try to tune it -OR- pay the shop re-do everything to get it right before putting it back on the dyno.

Cobra427 · 11-14-2009, 09:49 AM

This thread brings a smile to my face and a tear to my eye... Ahh the memories.

Did i miss something or are you not running a fmu with those injectors?

No fmu plus that combo equals blown head gasket... and that is the BEST case scenario.

THE WIZARD · 11-14-2009, 06:06 PM

Well Fastback289 it's been 9 days since u posted now so how did everything go at the track

Cobra427 · 11-14-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by THE WIZARD

Well Fastback289 it's been 9 days since u posted now so how did everything go at the track

Depending on how far he lives from the track he may still be walking home.

slow87GT · 11-14-2009, 06:49 PM

Realspeed Dan is probably right; this car probably has a handfull of issues

one5oh2nv · 11-24-2009, 12:06 AM

I say he trades it for a honduh! Doesnt want to listen to anything anyone has said!

Rich Gill · 11-24-2009, 12:21 AM

wow I feel bad for this kid. The answer is right in front of his face and he just completely ignores it.

You really need to take the chip out of the computer, and then set your base timing to 8deg.
See how it feels just like that.

BTW any chance we can see a dyno sheet with A/F?

11-05-2009, 03:31 PM	#75
19notchback90 Registered User Trader Feedback: (4) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Bethlehem PA Posts: 1,057	well after the tuner "fixed it" where it can rev to an amazing 4500 what were the dyno numbers? and if you say 275hp the car is obviously not running right. just listent o everyone else. pull the chip out, set the base timing at 8* or maybe 10* and go from there.. also do check your plugs.. .platinums are horrid... __________________ _________________ 01 cobra-stockish

11-05-2009, 03:40 PM	#77
carpediem50 Amber Lamps Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: N.E. Ohio Posts: 20,923 Blog Entries: 1	So it runs the same whether the blower belt is on or off? And you haven't looked into this further? __________________ Stu Price: What do tigers dream of when they take their little tiger snooze? Do they dream of mauling zebras, or Halle Berry in her Catwoman suit? Don't you worry your pretty striped head, we're gonna get you back to Tyson and your cozy tiger bed. And then we're gonna find our best friend Doug, and then we're gonna give him a best friend hug. Doug, Doug, oh, Doug, Dougie, Dougie, Doug, Doug! But if he's been murdered by crystal meth tweakers, well then we're #### out of luck.

11-05-2009, 04:51 PM	#79
Michael Yount Registered User Trader Feedback: (5) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Charlotte, NC Posts: 25,711	"....still at dyno....." Man - you've been there for like a week, no? __________________ Michael Yount - Charlotte, NC - 82 Volvo 242 - 5.0L, T5Z, 8.8" rear; 2008 Mini Clubman; 2000 Honda Accord (mother-in-law's car - 19,000 miles....)

11-05-2009, 04:55 PM	#80
331D1SCGT Registered User Trader Feedback: (8) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: albany, ny Posts: 1,136	your car should make the same nmbers or more to the rear wheels without the blower on it. there is something wrong, please, pull the chip and set the timing as everyone has stated, start there. __________________ 95GT: 302, TEA TFS heads, systemax, jay allen cam, t-76, 60lb inj, moates quarterhorse, dynamic c4, and so on...

11-05-2009, 05:01 PM	#82
NotchAbove Registered User Trader Feedback: (5) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Joppa, Maryland Posts: 1,130	Not even sure why I am responding to this, the answer or at least an excellent starting point was noted dozens of times. Problem #1 - 15* of base timing and a chip = too much timing Problem #2 - Pushrods - You absolutely need hardened ones with stud rockers Problem #3 - An person who asks for advice, gets good advice and does nothing with it. __________________ 93 Reef Blue Notch - Stock Bottom End,Thumper Heads,Cobra Intake,Crane 2031, Crane 1.7's,Zex Dry w/Window Switch, BBK Shorties, Flows, & X-Pipe,BBK CAI,FMS 65mm TB,73mm C&L,30# inj.,Livewires,Module,Coil,Pullies,190lph Pump,3.55 Gears,Pro-5.0 Shifter,King Cobra Clutch,Adj. Clutch Cable,Quad & Adj.

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11-05-2009, 02:52 PM	#71
fastback289 Registered User Trader Feedback: (2) Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hammond, LA Posts: 161	I'm don't have a bov but I'm puttin ine on Saturday and I will also be doing a compression test and check everthing out. The injectors are new I got them off if here but they guy didn't even us them, same as the maf. The maf is still in the motor compartment. This weekend I'm going to do everthing yall told me to do with the timing and see how it turns out. Thanks

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11-05-2009, 03:10 PM	#73
fastback289 Registered User Trader Feedback: (2) Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hammond, LA Posts: 161	The car runs good that the thjng. It's running the best it has in a while. I had the supercharger belt off and it ran basicly the same. So I'm not sure where to go because it running good right now but not sure about the pinging I have not ran it out yet. So right now I'm trying to find another dyno shop and fixing the things that need to be done and checking everthing out.

11-05-2009, 03:12 PM	#74
fastback289 Registered User Trader Feedback: (2) Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: hammond, LA Posts: 161	It's a blower tune yes. It's a sct chip and no there's no smkoe coming out at all. I was told by a guy at afr that I don't need harden pushrods

11-05-2009, 03:34 PM	#76
slow87GT Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Buffalo Posts: 3,568	i still think i would try running it locked out at 18 you need hardened pushrods, if you dont get them, the stock pushrods will wear out on the guide plates, itll put metal debri through your motor and eventually break some guideplates and pushrods at this point id do a compression check and verify your running on all 8 cylinders

11-05-2009, 03:51 PM	#78
slow87GT Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Buffalo Posts: 3,568	^^^it will have a restriction pulling air through a turbine that is not spinning. the right approach would be to relocate the maf at the front of the discharge tube but even then it will run poorly with a blower tune, you'd have to yank the chip, and even then, if the maf is cal'd for a blower, it will still probably run like crap

11-05-2009, 04:57 PM	#81
hotrod496 Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: May 2009 Location: Downey ca Posts: 116	CAMSHAFT IS OUT TIMING. i HAVE SEEN CAMS SO FAR OFF, THE WORST ONE WAS 9 DEGREES RETARTED... THAT WOULD CAUSE PINGING FOR SURE. AND LOSS OF POWER

11-06-2009, 11:59 AM	#83
Slow347 Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Midland, Tx Posts: 520	At this whole thread!!!! Very entertaining reading..... __________________ '88GT,Moates QH, Project Black Trash... '93 Teal Cobra Dart SHP 363,Vortech,AEM,AFM,AFR,TFS etc.

11-06-2009, 01:53 PM	#84
Shortzy Corral Elite Member Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Delaware Posts: 4,393	the funniest part of this whole thread is where you ask us for help, then tell us your car is running at its best... WTF? __________________ Chris 1990 Viper Blue GT-Stuff... 2005 Redfire Mazda 6- Faster than your stock Fox...

11-14-2009, 12:55 AM	#88
Realspeed Dan Authorized corral.net Advertiser Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 1,009	Those plugs you are running are wrong and could cost you 50 horsepower or more. That is why I check the plugs on every car I tune, regardless of the car owner tells me... Based on similar basket-case cars that have come in to my shop lately I bet there is WAY MORE than just 1 problem keeping the car from making power. If the ignition wires/coil/plugs/cap/rotor are bad the tuner has no hope of tuning the car right until the mechanical/electrical issues are fixed first. Its not even fair to say theat the car "only makes XXX horspower" if he can't even do a full pull to 6000 rpm. You need to pull the car out of the shop and start over with everything right first before you try to tune it -OR- pay the shop re-do everything to get it right before putting it back on the dyno.

11-14-2009, 09:49 AM	#89
Cobra427 Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Bay Area, Nor Cal Posts: 629	This thread brings a smile to my face and a tear to my eye... Ahh the memories. Did i miss something or are you not running a fmu with those injectors? No fmu plus that combo equals blown head gasket... and that is the BEST case scenario. __________________ 93 SSP 3220 lbs, W/C T-5,3.90's,ported gt40 irons,stock valves,cut/ported Cobra upper,ported lower.30# inj. SVT MAF,Bcam..1/4-12.43@109.65 1/8-7.931@86.85 DA 1083, 1.74 60' on Nitto Dr's Catted UPR X, stock airbox and full emissions equip still on the car.passes Cali emissions

11-14-2009, 06:06 PM	#90
THE WIZARD Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Ohio Posts: 35	Well Fastback289 it's been 9 days since u posted now so how did everything go at the track __________________ 89 Mustang LX 10.76-133 MPH 650hp/590tq

11-14-2009, 06:49 PM	#92
slow87GT Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: Buffalo Posts: 3,568	Realspeed Dan is probably right; this car probably has a handfull of issues

11-24-2009, 12:06 AM	#93
one5oh2nv Registered User Trader Feedback: (6) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 1,016	I say he trades it for a honduh! Doesnt want to listen to anything anyone has said! __________________ 91 LX 342 8.5:1, Victor Jr's, Victor 5.0, Anderson b451, 24lb Inj, BBK equal length shorties,3.73's,Tremec TKO,and bone stock suspension All that and still SLOW! 06 F150 2.5" Leveling Kit, 35" BFG A/T's

11-24-2009, 12:21 AM	#94
Rich Gill Registered User Trader Feedback: (35) Join Date: May 2001 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Fl Posts: 7,550	wow I feel bad for this kid. The answer is right in front of his face and he just completely ignores it. You really need to take the chip out of the computer, and then set your base timing to 8deg. See how it feels just like that. BTW any chance we can see a dyno sheet with A/F? __________________ 2004 Torch Red Cobra

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