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itilrun · 05-11-2009, 10:14 AM

I am running a 347 NA making about 455 HP. Feel like the T-5 is holding me back.
Best run to date is an 11.78 @ 116.89mph with a 1.68 short time.

Still have stock axles, so I'm taking it easy on the launch.

The tranny has all the World class upgrades, but it doesn't feel very good.

How fast did you guys run your t-5's??

I street drive the car, but I suppose I can always step up to the c-4.

I also have a Hitman Plus plate kit, but I highly doubt the tranny will hold up to it.

Thanks!!!

Jeff88coupe · 05-11-2009, 10:21 AM

Your definatly leaving alot of ET and MPH on the table. My 347 in my sig made 420rwhp/400rwtq threw a tremec 3550. It went a best of a 10,84 at 124 n/a with a 1.48 60'. I went many 10.30's @132 on a 150 shot with it before I hurt it missing a shift. I now run a C4 setup.

Get a good 5sp (tremec 3550/tko/500/600) and some good axles....then let it eat.

A9seccoupe · 05-11-2009, 12:41 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pz3Jimnlwk

this is my stock t5..my 3rd gear is rather weak, so I take it easy on that gear. You want to be consistent like a bracket car, go auto. Bang some gears at the track, or around town driving, go with the 5 speed. I just like rowing the gears and having fun. Its all up to you. Do you feel like rowing through the gears?

procharged01GT · 05-14-2009, 04:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A9seccoupe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pz3Jimnlwk

this is my stock t5..my 3rd gear is rather weak, so I take it easy on that gear. You want to be consistent like a bracket car, go auto. Bang some gears at the track, or around town driving, go with the 5 speed. I just like rowing the gears and having fun. Its all up to you. Do you feel like rowing through the gears?

Nice run!! Hell of a launch...what RPM did you leave at?

v8powerv8jim · 05-14-2009, 06:02 AM

This guy called Shaun runs a stick shift back here in the UK...best run a 10.8

check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PE-83Vrik

A9seccoupe · 05-14-2009, 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by procharged01GT

Nice run!! Hell of a launch...what RPM did you leave at?

Thanks a lot!.... 5500 rpm.

the_bock · 05-17-2009, 04:54 PM

I went 11.25 at 123.6 with a stock T5, 1.58 60 feet. Swap it for a G-force T5 last winter...

http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...nt=nbt2008.flv

sbgto · 05-17-2009, 05:27 PM

A C-4 and a good converter you will pick up alot and be consisted but will be less fun on the street if you like the 5 speed forsure.

dave's blowngt · 05-17-2009, 05:37 PM

12.00 to 10.80 after an aod swap

mike06tr · 05-17-2009, 05:48 PM

Street car keep a 5spd more drag go with the auto.
A friends Strim 306 he only ran 12's with the 5spd, swapped in the C4 and went 10's

the_bock · 05-17-2009, 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike06tr

Street car keep a 5spd more drag go with the auto.
A friends Strim 306 he only ran 12's with the 5spd, swapped in the C4 and went 10's

Forsure an automatic is faster, but to see a 2 sec difference... I think the driver was not good with a manual...

jturmanator · 05-17-2009, 07:47 PM

My goal is to get bored running 10's with a 5 speed before i decide to switch to an auto. My combo screams auto.

Stitch · 05-17-2009, 07:54 PM

I have been 9's N/A on a TKO600, and 10.2's N/A on a stock T-5 for many years.

A9seccoupe · 05-18-2009, 07:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_bock

Forsure an automatic is faster, but to see a 2 sec difference... I think the driver was not good with a manual...

wow...2 seconds off the 1/4 time by a tranny swap is insane! But im sure someone somewhere has done it. I'm a little confused myself.. lol

Rich Gill · 05-18-2009, 08:25 AM

2 second difference is because the driver was horrible.
Those arent real world before and after #'s
Some drivers with sticks can run almost as fast as autos but some people just dont have the knack for shifting so they go the easy route and put an auto in

A9seccoupe · 05-18-2009, 09:15 AM

LOL, I am a horrible driver too... with a manual. I guess if I put a c4 in my car, I will run 10.00's??

the_bock · 05-18-2009, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A9seccoupe

LOL, I am a horrible driver too... with a manual. I guess if I put a c4 in my car, I will run 10.00's??

I would say for me and you, maybe half of a second faster, if we bang the gears like no tomorrow with the manual...

Rich Gill · 05-18-2009, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A9seccoupe

LOL, I am a horrible driver too... with a manual. I guess if I put a c4 in my car, I will run 10.00's??

Depends on how horrible you are

Stephen Johnson · 05-18-2009, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Gill

2 second difference is because the driver was horrible.
Those arent real world before and after #'s
Some drivers with sticks can run almost as fast as autos but some people just dont have the knack for shifting so they go the easy route and put an auto in

I totally agree with some of the posts above, if you're picking up over .2 just from stick to auto, you're a bad driver. Both of my cars are stickshifts...a 9.40 race car and a 10.90 street car. I can run within .02-.04 every pass on the same day. The autos being consistent doesnt have anything to do with it..I have seen some auto's that wasnt consistent... The Consistency is in the DRIVER!!

johnlovett · 05-18-2009, 11:23 PM

I totally agree!!! I ran the nmca/nsca efi elliminator for years with a stick finished 3rd in points in 2003 with a stick. Won several local bracket races with a stick to help pay for the national stuff the DRIVER is a HUGE varable when it comes to a stick car!! And the proper clutch set up helps too, the strongest isnt always the fastest!

z28freak84 · 05-19-2009, 01:57 AM

Right!!!! If you cant drive a stick, You CANT DRIVE!!!!! Im sure some idiot will argue this...BUTTT, if ur not quick enough to shift it, then u aint quick enough to steer it!!! And sure you can drive "normal", like every other idiot on the road, but you cant drive it like some "us" can...And to "US" that isn't DRIVIN'!

luizGT91 · 05-19-2009, 10:56 AM

this is the coupe/vid that puts end to all the "manual vs auto conversations"

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...-vid_43327.htm

A9seccoupe · 05-19-2009, 01:33 PM

Not everyone can drive like that.. lol It is possible to go fast with a 5 speed, but U better be ready to bang some gears.

cocomojak · 05-19-2009, 07:10 PM

damn good driving.great starting line technique.hit 2nd before 60 ft lights.noticed no brake light when staging.are they used?

bitemark46 · 05-20-2009, 12:08 AM

Isn't wonderbreads car proshifted? Kinda kills the streetable 5-speed theory.

Here an in car vid of me with my 5 speed. No dog rings, proshifted, heli cut gears here. Just fast foot/hand work.

Don't mind the super slow 2-3 cause it was a new tranny and I had surgery on my elbow 2 days later. I can pull on the stick but it hurts like hell anytime I had to push it. But I normally shift the 2-3 just as fast. At the end of the run I was able to get a decent 2-3 in.

All Cleveland · 05-20-2009, 09:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the_bock

Forsure an automatic is faster, but to see a 2 sec difference... I think the driver was not good with a manual...

X2 May not have been 2 full sec difference but even to go from 12.10 to 10.90 is still a stretch.

Stitch · 05-20-2009, 03:07 PM

Heres how you drive a stick going high 9''s N/A and i used a clutch also.

Thanks Matt

A9seccoupe · 05-20-2009, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stitch

Heres how you drive a stick going high 9''s N/A and i used a clutch also.

Thanks Matt

Looks like you changed from a T5 to a c4? Correct?

83GT5.0 · 05-20-2009, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v8powerv8jim

This guy called Shaun runs a stick shift back here in the UK...best run a 10.8

check it out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PE-83Vrik

That's Santa Pod racetrack. I've raced that track in the UK. (I was stationed there)

Sorry, just thought that was cool......

Stitch · 05-20-2009, 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A9seccoupe

Looks like you changed from a T5 to a c4? Correct?

Ya just switched this spring went out on opening day got 2 passes on the new Ram clutch not the cheap one either, and on the thrid pass the clutch blew apart did the conversion went back out and the car picked up .02 tenths and 1 mph going from a stick to a C-4

Thansk Matt

05-11-2009, 10:14 AM	#1
itilrun Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Rochester NY Posts: 74	How fast before Automatic??? I am running a 347 NA making about 455 HP. Feel like the T-5 is holding me back. Best run to date is an 11.78 @ 116.89mph with a 1.68 short time. Still have stock axles, so I'm taking it easy on the launch. The tranny has all the World class upgrades, but it doesn't feel very good. How fast did you guys run your t-5's?? I street drive the car, but I suppose I can always step up to the c-4. I also have a Hitman Plus plate kit, but I highly doubt the tranny will hold up to it. Thanks!!! __________________ 1992 Mustang Coupe Wild Strawberry 11.66 @ 119.55 10/3/09 new best 10.94 @124.98MPH on 100 shot 2001 Ford F150 Silver Supercrew 4X4 on 33's 1996 Honda 900RR Red

05-11-2009, 10:21 AM	#2
Jeff88coupe Moderator Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Independence,KY Posts: 3,482	Your definatly leaving alot of ET and MPH on the table. My 347 in my sig made 420rwhp/400rwtq threw a tremec 3550. It went a best of a 10,84 at 124 n/a with a 1.48 60'. I went many 10.30's @132 on a 150 shot with it before I hurt it missing a shift. I now run a C4 setup. Get a good 5sp (tremec 3550/tko/500/600) and some good axles....then let it eat. __________________ Outlaw Street Madness 6.50 index Dedpedal Race Team;Tuned by Lasota Racing R302 347, forged eagle crank and rods, ross pistons (10.8:1), Comp Cam custom solid roller (.616/.622,248/260,113 lobe sep), RHS 215 heads, 1.6 rockers, Neil Erickson ported TFS-R box intake, Hooker S/C 1 3/4" LT, 3" X-pipe & dumps, 42lb inj, 90mm TB, 90mm lmaf, NX efi plate kit, Built C4 w/ brake, ~4500 n/a stall, now running on E85 w/ C4 N/A:10.88 at 125 with a 1.56 60' 150 shot:9.75 at 134.9 w/ 1.30 60' (6.16 at 110.4 in the 1/8)

05-11-2009, 12:41 PM	#3
A9seccoupe Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: orlando/space coast Posts: 850	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Pz3Jimnlwk this is my stock t5..my 3rd gear is rather weak, so I take it easy on that gear. You want to be consistent like a bracket car, go auto. Bang some gears at the track, or around town driving, go with the 5 speed. I just like rowing the gears and having fun. Its all up to you. Do you feel like rowing through the gears? __________________ 1989 coupe, 302, stock T5, aftermarket heads, carb and intake, lightened chasis: 2680 w/ driver and w/ a good suspension. 11.24 @ 122.37 1.53 60'

05-14-2009, 06:02 AM	#5
v8powerv8jim Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Newcastle,UK Posts: 87	This guy called Shaun runs a stick shift back here in the UK...best run a 10.8 check it out http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4PE-83Vrik __________________ Black 94 gt auto-Edelbrock 60379 heads,Ported Cobra intake,70mm TB,190 Fuel pump,BBK adj FPR & gauge,24lb injectors,BBK Shorties,offroad X,Summit underdrive pulleys,smog pump deleted(short belt),BBK CAI,MSD Blaster,Cobra front brakes,S197 rims & spacers Coming soon-3.73's,

05-17-2009, 04:54 PM	#7
the_bock Registered User Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montreal,Qc Posts: 367	I went 11.25 at 123.6 with a stock T5, 1.58 60 feet. Swap it for a G-force T5 last winter... http://s43.photobucket.com/albums/e3...nt=nbt2008.flv __________________ 1993 black coupe : Stock shortblock, F cam, TW, GT-40 intake, 30 lbs inj, PMAS 95mm velocity maf, 70mm tb, Paxton novi 1220SL, UPR boost pipe, G-force T5, 31 splines cobra diff. 10.91@ 126 mph, 1.49 60 feet, 3200 lbs

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05-17-2009, 05:27 PM	#8
sbgto Registered User Trader Feedback: (10) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: CT Posts: 140	A C-4 and a good converter you will pick up alot and be consisted but will be less fun on the street if you like the 5 speed forsure.

05-17-2009, 05:37 PM	#9
dave's blowngt Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: east tn. Posts: 124	12.00 to 10.80 after an aod swap

05-17-2009, 05:48 PM	#10
mike06tr Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: New Orleans LA Posts: 626	Street car keep a 5spd more drag go with the auto. A friends Strim 306 he only ran 12's with the 5spd, swapped in the C4 and went 10's __________________ want it done right is that to much to ask??!!

05-17-2009, 07:47 PM	#12
jturmanator Registered User Trader Feedback: (2) Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MS Posts: 1,452	My goal is to get bored running 10's with a 5 speed before i decide to switch to an auto. My combo screams auto. __________________ Stock block, GT40 heads, Explorer intake, Precision 67mm Turbo, T5 10lbs, 431HP 497TQ on 110 octane 12.01 @ 122

05-17-2009, 07:54 PM	#13
Stitch Registered User Trader Feedback: (10) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dearborn Michigan Posts: 424	I have been 9's N/A on a TKO600, and 10.2's N/A on a stock T-5 for many years. __________________ Dave Zimmerman @ Team-Z Suspension Cary Chounard @ Performance Inductions Jim Woods @ Fordstrokers

05-18-2009, 08:25 AM	#15
Rich Gill Registered User Trader Feedback: (33) Join Date: May 2001 Location: Port Saint Lucie, Fl Posts: 6,743	2 second difference is because the driver was horrible. Those arent real world before and after #'s Some drivers with sticks can run almost as fast as autos but some people just dont have the knack for shifting so they go the easy route and put an auto in __________________ 1992 GT Stock shortblock, TW Heads, Trick Flow Stage 1 Cam, Holley Systemax Intake, BG Turbo Kit, 42lb injectors, PA Supercomp AODE, 31 Spline Cobra Diff w/ strange axles and 9" style housing ends, 5 Lug Conversion etc 10.46@132.58

05-18-2009, 09:15 AM	#16
A9seccoupe Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: orlando/space coast Posts: 850	LOL, I am a horrible driver too... with a manual. I guess if I put a c4 in my car, I will run 10.00's?? __________________ 1989 coupe, 302, stock T5, aftermarket heads, carb and intake, lightened chasis: 2680 w/ driver and w/ a good suspension. 11.24 @ 122.37 1.53 60'

05-18-2009, 11:23 PM	#20
johnlovett Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: cleveland mississippi Posts: 370	I totally agree!!! I ran the nmca/nsca efi elliminator for years with a stick finished 3rd in points in 2003 with a stick. Won several local bracket races with a stick to help pay for the national stuff the DRIVER is a HUGE varable when it comes to a stick car!! And the proper clutch set up helps too, the strongest isnt always the fastest! __________________ pro comp headed 347 pump gas LS1 killer

05-19-2009, 01:57 AM	#21
z28freak84 Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: bement, IL Posts: 226	Right!!!! If you cant drive a stick, You CANT DRIVE!!!!! Im sure some idiot will argue this...BUTTT, if ur not quick enough to shift it, then u aint quick enough to steer it!!! And sure you can drive "normal", like every other idiot on the road, but you cant drive it like some "us" can...And to "US" that isn't DRIVIN'! __________________ '90 Mustang GT- Stock longblock...Explorer intake 75mm t/b, pulleys, BBK = lengths, o/r-H, Flowmaster 40 series w/ turndowns, 3.73, Steeda Tri-Ax. soon to be installed, GT-40 irons-ported, 1.7's, 90mm LMAF, 24lb inj, TwEECer, suspension.

05-19-2009, 10:56 AM	#22
luizGT91 Registered User Trader Feedback: (3) Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Brownsville TX Posts: 395	this is the coupe/vid that puts end to all the "manual vs auto conversations" http://videos.streetfire.net/video/A...-vid_43327.htm __________________ 93 GT "Negrito" 359w TW VicJr 5spd, 3.73s MSD ign 99 Cobra "Slowbra" JLT, LTs X Stingers, soild 4.56, 87 Coupe "LeftOvers" Following the Nohrspwr path, GT40ed high-mid-low 11s car

05-19-2009, 01:33 PM	#23
A9seccoupe Registered User Trader Feedback: (1) Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: orlando/space coast Posts: 850	Not everyone can drive like that.. lol It is possible to go fast with a 5 speed, but U better be ready to bang some gears. __________________ 1989 coupe, 302, stock T5, aftermarket heads, carb and intake, lightened chasis: 2680 w/ driver and w/ a good suspension. 11.24 @ 122.37 1.53 60'

05-19-2009, 07:10 PM	#24
cocomojak Registered User Trader Feedback: (0) Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: columbus ohio Posts: 374	damn good driving.great starting line technique.hit 2nd before 60 ft lights.noticed no brake light when staging.are they used?

05-20-2009, 12:08 AM	#25
bitemark46 Registered User Trader Feedback: (32) Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: tampa, fl Posts: 1,895	Isn't wonderbreads car proshifted? Kinda kills the streetable 5-speed theory. Here an in car vid of me with my 5 speed. No dog rings, proshifted, heli cut gears here. Just fast foot/hand work. Don't mind the super slow 2-3 cause it was a new tranny and I had surgery on my elbow 2 days later. I can pull on the stick but it hurts like hell anytime I had to push it. But I normally shift the 2-3 just as fast. At the end of the run I was able to get a decent 2-3 in. __________________ 98 red cobra (N/A Stock longblock) 11.79@114.64 (1.62 60ft )

05-20-2009, 03:07 PM	#27
Stitch Registered User Trader Feedback: (10) Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Dearborn Michigan Posts: 424	Heres how you drive a stick going high 9''s N/A and i used a clutch also. Thanks Matt __________________ Dave Zimmerman @ Team-Z Suspension Cary Chounard @ Performance Inductions Jim Woods @ Fordstrokers

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