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Old 04-16-2009, 10:55 AM   #1
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ROFL...got body roll?

From last nights' track day. I had put the 5.0 front swaybar back in it and stiffened the rear up a bit. I'm thinking stiffer front springs are in order

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Old 04-16-2009, 10:58 AM   #2
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jebus. Did you drag a fender?
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:00 AM   #3
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:05 AM   #4
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How many people are in your vehicle in that pic?

What mods do you have done to the rear suspension?

What is your current spring rates for the front and rear?
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:06 AM   #5
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:13 AM   #6
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Silk Purse =/ sow's ear....

uh, really I admire what you've done to do as well as you can with the Fox. You must have a very stubborn streak as well; just like me and I admire your determination.


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Old 04-16-2009, 11:15 AM   #7
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Now all you need Miffy is that punk kid (TylerC) off one of our local forums (KCSR) to race with you, so he can teach you how to drive of course...
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Damn and you even had ballast. I suppose you're hoping those new springs are going to help you out.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:25 AM   #9
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We have plenty of "driving" experts here to give him advice...


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Old 04-16-2009, 11:28 AM   #10
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How many people are in your vehicle in that pic?
Just me and a passenger, but probably 500 lbs combined

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Torque arm, panhard bar, 390-420-lb conventionally located springs on adjustable LCA's, and an EVM swaybar set about 6% stiffer than a stock Cobra bar

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325-lb coilovers on the front, 390-420 conventionals on the rear. 400-lb front coilovers coming soon.

And BTW the front control arms are located in the higher of the 2 available pivot holes in the MM K-member, further raising the roll center and ostensibly reducing body roll.
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Dosent help Miffy that your 8'14''. Poor little fox!
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:32 AM   #12
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Silk Purse =/ sow's ear....

uh, really I admire what you've done to do as well as you can with the Fox. You must have a very stubborn streak as well; just like me and I admire your determination.


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Yeah, well, when the Shelby GT500 driver who went 4 wheels off track trying to stay out in front asks if your car has a blower on it when in fact it only makes 255 RWHP, kind of makes for a satisfying chuckle
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Maybe you need smaller rear discs.
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Yeah, well, when the Shelby GT500 driver who went 4 wheels off track trying to stay out in front asks if your car has a blower on it when in fact it only makes 255 RWHP, kind of makes for a satisfying chuckle
Skill always wins as momentum is your friend, why yes I am preaching to the choir...

Only 4 wheels off, not bad

Eh, I got to get to a track day with my two wheeled girlfriend. Bikes are quicker out of the box but I'm still old and slower...


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Old 04-16-2009, 11:38 AM   #15
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My buddy in a 93 Viper is serving as a suspension tuning videographer. I'm waiting for him to process several laps from following me around last night, but here's what really clued me in from an event at the same track 2 weeks ago. Starting at 1:25 in this video, I purposely held him up a little for 1/2 a lap so I could capture this and see how the car was behaving.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...ays_644178.htm
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I see Bobby brakes too early and hasn't found the line yet. Maybe you could draw it out with crayon for him.

LOL Superdan Industries. I don't see much brake light...maybe we should see if they're broken. You look tight - I can't wait to get out!
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That's what she said.

That video looks fun...makes me want to try Auto-X.
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:48 AM   #19
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CalSpec, Yup - wheels on track, no paint bumping. Win/win. We don't race, we run at schools and other open track events. If you noticed MFE gave the Viper a point by; there's passing in designated areas only, the car you're passing must point you by and lift to allow you to pass. Gentlemen's rules. It's how the daily commute should work. If you're not going faster than the person behind you then GTFO.
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Dave, we're going to a test and tune autox event this weekend at a site that's a police training facility. Should be fun. There's only one car out on course at a time, no cement barriers to run into and lower speeds. Depending on your skill level and car on the course in MFE's vid from last night, you may be going up to 120 at one point. I usually keep it to ~105 because after you get it to that speed you need to stop/slow down for the next set of turns. I'm already teaching our 5 y/o about straight line braking. Gotta start some time.
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Streetfire is banninated at my job. Ill have to check it out tonight. have fun at the training site, that'll be a blast I imagine.
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My car looks like that going around every turn.
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My car looks like that going around every turn.
I'm doing about 50 in that picture
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haha yeah I figured you were going a little faster than I normally do around corners.

I just need some more $$$.
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is some paintwork now needed?

thats some wicked roll but, you already knew that
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I was also wanting to ask, is that the factory original paint? It shines about 5x brighter than mine ever did. I miss that color.
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Yes, other than some touched-up areas, that's original paint. It gets a treatment of Zaino every year or two
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My buddy in a 93 Viper is serving as a suspension tuning videographer. I'm waiting for him to process several laps from following me around last night, but here's what really clued me in from an event at the same track 2 weeks ago. Starting at 1:25 in this video, I purposely held him up a little for 1/2 a lap so I could capture this and see how the car was behaving.

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...ays_644178.htm
That's a simple yet sweet video! That Z06 is MOVING through those turns
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At second glance MFE it looks like you're making a fast break for the Johnny on the Spot.
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That's a simple yet sweet video! That Z06 is MOVING through those turns
That dude is ridiculously fast. And I'm pretty sure he's doing that on run-flats or at least whatever the car came with.
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That's a simple yet sweet video! That Z06 is MOVING through those turns
holy hell id say so....

the C6 is just rippin #### up.

n miffy, all i can do is give of a big applause on that vid. not only do you school people on the forum but, put down some serious ass-whoopins at the track too. nice, nice in-deed
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And what he's done, long ago, is suggested I take it on the track so I bless all his mods. He's a smart mother ####er.
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Congratulations, you're now qualified to drive on Upstate NY back roads. Just make sure your registration is expired and the backseat is full of garbage for ballast.
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