DAYTIME FOOTAGE!!! Heads/Cam LS1 Vs. Heads/Cam 351W Fox!!!

[Ford50forlife]

Me and an LS1tech boardmember met up after 6 months of trying to set #### up to make some friendly passes. I thought it was a good vid turnout, and am sharing

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/H...Cam_175224.htm

[Jay P.]

That was a nice video. Good runs! Ford owns all!!!

[svo90]

very nice runs from both cars very surprised

[INMY01TA]

Camaro driver was a non-driver. If I had a head/cam LS1 that only went 11.9 I'd shoot myself. Both nice cars tho.

[yosshimura]

nice runs

[03 DOHC]

Nice Video!

But you need to polish on them shifting skills.

[jw33]

ehhh. solid roller with aftermarket heads vs. a tiny lsx cam and production heads. Both cars are pretty quick though....

[Ford50forlife]

Nothing for nothing.. but LSX guys seem to forget one very important thing. OVER 30 YEARS OF TECHNOLOGY SEPERATES THESE MOTORS.

THE STOCK LSX HEADS FLOW BETTER THAN SOME PORTED AFTERMARKET windsor heads!!! My crappy IRON heads included.

The LSX is a more EFFICIENT motor period. Any ford person who doubts that, its just a hater. It is a more powerful base PERIOD, and mod for mod.. NO if ands or buts.

Stupid ass comments like the one above from the chevy camp (especially on an unbiased vid, like this) don't take things like this into account.

So my rebuttal to you would bring a 3rd gen motor and go mod for mod. First gen 350's were around since the early 90's in tpi variant, right? Look what Windsor motors did to those pieces.

[03 DOHC]

Don't pay attention to those comments...

As long as you're happy with the car that's all that matters.

[RazorbackMustang]

One question...why did you always start behind him?

[Ford50forlife]

Hmm... I didn't even notice that.. I thought it was the camera angle but apparently I was a shallow staging. We are trying to setup a rematch..

I gotta mapquest 4th gear right quick

[Bill5.0]

Nice video. You have a lot of good videos on youtube.
Were you at Lebanon valley for Muscle palooza 8/31/08 ?
Found this pic on Lebanon web site. How did the car run I see you were in B6 must have ran good.
http://photosbyjim.smugmug.com/galle...769_Yj5ou-L-LB

[Ford50forlife]

Holy #### small world... Yea I ended up being a little late getting there because I drove up there. But luckily the tech inspection is a joke there. The dude asked what I ran, I said um.. low 13's, hehe. He let me go right in even though I had a bottle in the back and B6 is caged territory.

That run was horrible. I figured I'd get 1 pass with the 100shot and call it quits. I botched the launch w/ a 2.0 60' and went for the bottle in 2nd.. The car started detonating up top really bad but it managed a 11.70@124mph IIRC I was so mad I think i threw away the slips.

The plugs were peppered bad so I switched to B5 and ran on motor. I felt out of place w/ trailered drag cars on a full slick as oppossed to a 17' radial, pump gas, street car. lol!

Thanks for the new background though!!!

[Ford50forlife]

Wait a sec!! I saw your car there.. Your car is Naasty!!!

I remember looking at cars and seeing yours on a 17' rim, full interior. That looked like the only other streetcar in line. Plus you got a sick suspension setup. How do you get your car to leave like that? You have road race suspension?????

I actually have a trackbite VHT applier that sprays on my tires. It broke on the drive up there though so I couldn't use it. Oh well.

[Bill5.0]

[QUOTE=Ford50forlife;8082582]Wait a sec!! I saw your car there.. Your car is Naasty!!!

I remember looking at cars and seeing yours on a 17' rim, full interior. That looked like the only other streetcar in line. Plus you got a sick suspension setup. How do you get your car to leave like that? You have road race suspension?????

I actually have a trackbite VHT applier that sprays on my tires. It broke on the drive up there though so I couldn't use it. Oh well.[/QUOTE

THANKS.
YA small world. I don't rember seeing you there if I did would of said hi.
Your vid on you tube with the blue coupe is my old short block.

MT DRs 15 psi. first time at the track on thouse tires thay worked better then i thought thay would my 60fts were 1.675,1671,1.585 trying to leave 3-4000RPMS.
Ya Kenny Brown suspension.
I have a post in the drag forum of my 3 passes from that day I guess the guys in the drag forum or not impressed over 100 hits no response.

[Ford50forlife]

Nice!..

yeah that coupe is my boy Mikes now. He bought it from Humanclone or something on here. That car ran real strong when he bought it. But like all mustang curses, is giving him wicked problems now. It wasn't running good at all when we ran.

I will have to invest in a set of those M/T's.. these bfg t/a dr 2's have a little tread left right about now.. But I got over 1 1/2 years out of them, the last 8 months w/ linelock too .

I can't put my finger on this forum... sometimes I post something I think is gonna blow up, and it gets a hit or 2. Then I post something irrelevant, and it pages out. Oh well. A 17' rim N/A sbf street car in cage territory is impressive in my book!

[Bill5.0]

My buddies old car with my old short block short block only had like 40000mi on it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEWwDjErf_Y

[Bill5.0]

I take it most of your vids are on 25.
I should be going to ETOWN November 1 for the street car thing you should come down and race weather should be better and as you know ETOWN seems to be 1-2ths faster then the valley and hooks a lot better also.

[Ford50forlife]

If my jackstand warrior permits, then sure! Throw a PM my way to remind me. Ill try to get some track shoes for the event. I know for a fact the tech inspection isn't so lenient though.

[Bill5.0]

I seem to have more trouble at LVD then Etown. Etown never looks at my car. Lvd was easy last week because there were alot of cars running and thay didn't have the time.
You just need a fire jaket drive shaft loop with the bottle tell them your hopeing for low 12s when thay see 17in DRs thay think its slow no hook.
Fist time this year at LVD said what you run 13s I told them I was hopeing for hight 11s he stop looking at the car gave me my ticket and smiled have a nice day.

[1fastII]

Good races!

[ziXXerpilot]

Good races!

I'm a Ford guy through and through, but there is no denying that GM's LS engines are some serious mills! efficient and deadly, but it only took what, 30 years to catch up to Ford?

[TwistedSS]

Good runs! Weight is definitely a factor in those races! LS1 Camaro = ~3700lbs. Fox with Windsor = ~3100lbs. And with evenly matched (almost) HP and torque, it makes a nice race! lol

[CDW6212R]

Originally Posted by ziXXerpilot

Good races!

I'm a Ford guy through and through, but there is no denying that GM's LS engines are some serious mills! efficient and deadly, but it only took what, 30 years to catch up to Ford?

Great races, and do work on the shifting.

GM has been rebuilding the 350 over and over again, yes it's great now. Ford didn't do much with pushrod engines after developing fuel injection and the GT40 heads. I think that the modular engines were the wise choice, but Ford did it poorly as usual. The mod engines should have been in 1991 where they were a few years ago.

I'll stick with the pushrod engines for a long time, they fit into anything and you can add fuel injection with little trouble. Regards,

[eleanorfox]

nice cars.


but what in considered full bolt ons lol......

[so low 5.0]

chevy dude cant drive for #### ... missed gears on both ends. put a better driver in that chevy it would be your ass

[Ford50forlife]

Originally Posted by so low 5.0

chevy dude cant drive for #### ... missed gears on both ends. put a better driver in that chevy it would be your ass

Thats only the 2nd time hes ever missed a gear in that car, the first was with some trans problems like mine. Go ahead and try to powershift that car. Watch as I put lengths on you, lol!