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post #1 of 43 Old 01-16-2017, 03:34 PM Thread Starter
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Project Discreet

Back in 2012, I bough a new Mustang. My only requirement was that it was white. Unfortunately, the 2013's were already on the lot (I didn't want a '13), so that left me with a vast array of V6/automatics to choose from.

In August of 2014, I performed major surgery on the car, and swapped out the V6/auto for a carbureted 427 Windsor and Tremec Magnum XL. It was one of five Mustangs in the world built that way, and one of only two that are driven on the street (the others were purpose-built race cars). It is, without a doubt, one of the most heavily modified street-driven S197 Mustangs in the world. In fact, the only things that are still OEM are the radiator, the fuel tank, and the rear-end housing.

This coming weekend (Jan 21), I will be embarking on what I call "Project Discreet" - adding a 671 blower with dual quad carbs to the car. Since this is the introductory post, I'll include some pics of the car during the engine swap. And FYI, the swap itself took just 28 calendar days from driving the car in, to driving the car out.

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post #2 of 43 Old 01-16-2017, 03:36 PM Thread Starter
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More pics for initial build

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More pics.

I used a Treme Magnum XL kit, but had to toss the bellhousing that came with it because it wouldn't bolt up to the Windsor block. I knew this would be the case so it wasn't a surprise, and I got a Quicktime scattershield, and had to have an aluminum spacer made to fit between the scattershield and the transmission so that the input shaft wouldn't bottom out in the crank. That's what the next-to-last picture is of.

We also had to relocate and fab a new bracket for the expansion tank because the tensioner pulley on the alternator bracket was in the way.
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To accommodate the absence of the drive-by-wire harness, We adapted a fox body gas pedal to the car and used an OEM throttle cable. To get the pedal mounted, we made an aluminum adapter plate and simply bolted the pedal to it. All we had to do was drill a hole for the cable.
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Finally, we wanted the OEM tach to work, so we installed a crank reluctor wheel from an explorer between the harmonic balancer and crank pulley, and used the OEM crank position sensor to drive the tach.
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The car, as it sits right now, looks like this. It's come a long way from its V6/auto roots.
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At this moment, the car is being prepped to add the blower. I took off the front bumper fascia, removed the OEM radiator fan and radiator, and disconnected most of the stuff that would keep us from removing the intake.

I also too this opportunity to remove all of the A/C stuff, which required a bracket change for the power steering, so I got a March alternator bracket kit, and March power steering bracket kit.

A word of advice regarding brackets - be VERY careful about what you order. Brackets for a v-belt system come with different bolts/spacers. The brackets will be okay, but the bolts/spacers will NOT be okay. On the power steering side, make sure you order the bracket for the appropriate power steering pump.
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Since I removed the A/C lines, I was left with two holes in the firewall, so I fabbed up a little cover out of aluminum and installed it.

At this time, I have all the parts I think I'm going to need to install the blower - except the blower itself, which shipped today (I'll have it by Jan 19).
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I'm getting the blower from Dyer's Blowers. IMHO, if you get a blower from ANYPLACE else, you're doing it wrong. These are the only guys I could find that supports the serpentine belt system that you see in the fox body mustangs. They are VERY accommodating, and will answer any stupid question you have. They sent me pics today of my blower kit mocked up before they packed it up for shipping.
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More mockup pics.

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Damn I still haven't seen the car in person. I passed by Chris's shop while it was in there but never saw it run. Good luck with it. Are you gonna put it on the dyno?

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Damn I still haven't seen the car in person. I passed by Chris's shop while it was in there but never saw it run. Good luck with it. Are you gonna put it on the dyno?
If I know Chris, yeah, probably.
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This a houston build or San Antonio?
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This a houston build or San Antonio?
San Antonio.
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do you know what it weighs with 427?
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do you know what it weighs with 427?
I weighed the car (it has a 100 pound roll bar, fiberglass fixed back seats, and a heavy fiberglass hood). The final weight was 3650 pounds, which is just 50 pounds heavier than a fully loaded 2012 GT premium.
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I got the blower last night (the UPS guy was really struggling to get the boxes off the truck). I'm only going to un-box some of it so I can reinstall the harmonic balancer and crank pulleys.
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Should check for damage on the parts. Ups always ####s my #### up.

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Should check for damage on the parts. Ups always ####s my #### up.
The boxes arrived puncture free, and the flanges are all still flat. Dyer's packed everything really well.
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While I'm waiting for a slot to open at the shop that's going to install this thing, and to inspect the parts to make sure there's no shipping damage, I decided to mock it up for pics.
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That's sexy! Can't wait to see it peeking out from the hood....oh hell, it will be screaming LOOK AT ME! Awesome stuff!

And you're lucky. UPS (United Package Smashers) and FedEx can break an anvil packed in cement.
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Testing fitment. The back was my biggest concern, but we're looking good...
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Sweet! Let me know when you take it out would like to see it in person. Also sending you a pm.

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Sweet! Let me know when you take it out would like to see it in person. Also sending you a pm.
I'm gonna try to have it ready by the 2nd weekend in February.
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Finally at the shop that's doing the install. It's gonna whine more than an ex-wife trying to get her alimony increased.
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End of day two at the shop. Blower installed, fuel system connected, cooling system connected, Spal fans mounted, and linkage has been started. Still have to connect the fans, mount/connect the valve cover breather tank, and clean up some electrical routing. We expect to start the car sometime today.
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Very cool project. I had thoughts of trying to switch my '11 GT to a 408W, but didnt have the funds. Cool to see someone who did it.
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BLOWAAAAH!

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Sounds nice any more videos?

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Looks awesome!!!
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Are you going to use the stock hood with a giant hole then?
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Was this car at Cars and Coffee this weekend in Austin?
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