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Old 04-22-2011, 10:29 PM   #1
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357W single turbo build

before mustang week this year im going to swap in a 357w. Goal is to run 9's with the 17's and drag radials. currently i have a ponydown 70mm kit that i am going to swap over. Im going to modify the kit to fit the 357w and just upgrade the exhaust to 3.5". going to run my same 70mm turbo till it wont do anymore. also im going to swap over my heads. got a bunch of parts to thorw in this so here are the specs.



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there is alot im missing but for the most part its there. here are some of the pics. finished the cage about a month ago so here are the pics as of then. just got the rest of the parts today.

this is my old setup on the 302.











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the old 302 out



turbo kit on the 351 before heading to the machine shop.

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to get everyone up to date: the first 351w roller block i droped off had a crack in it.



here is the second 351w roller that I have. dropped it off monday and pray this one is good.



here is how the engine bay looks. getting ready to paint it the same color as the car. not going to fill all the little holes. ran the harness behind the dash also to clean the bay up.

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How many horses do you think it will put to the pavement?
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How many horses do you think it will put to the pavement?
were shooting for 700 to 800hp.
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I'd like to copy your engine combo. (I see a GT500 in my neighborhood every once in a while). What's been done to your Vic Jr's?
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you using the stock crank?
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I'd like to copy your engine combo. (I see a GT500 in my neighborhood every once in a while). What's been done to your Vic Jr's?
got them from a friend local to me. they ahve been cleaned up alittle, and new springs, valves etc.

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yes. were using the stock 351w crank.
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Don't the Vic Jr's need port work to make 700-800 hp?
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Don't the Vic Jr's need port work to make 700-800 hp?

Will see..... those are just estimated #'s. Once everything is finished then i'll see what it actually Makes. Heads prolly won't flow enough to make that, but ya never know.
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Will see..... those are just estimated #'s. Once everything is finished then i'll see what it actually Makes. Heads prolly won't flow enough to make that, but ya never know.
They may surprise you, I run wedge heads.
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Stock crank, x-cam, 7-800hp to the pavement?
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Stock crank, x-cam, 7-800hp to the pavement?

Estimate playa! It will make power, once it's done I will find out.
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I don't doubt you, it's gonna be a fun ride..I'm curious to see how you make out. Maybe I missed, but what did the 302 make?
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I don't doubt you, it's gonna be a fun ride..I'm curious to see how you make out. Maybe I missed, but what did the 302 make?
Never dynoed the 302. Judging by my track times and weight it was making about 400 to the wheels through the auto on 7 lbs. Same race weight I went 7.41 @95 in the 1/8
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I would find a forged crank, a custom cam and a better flowing intake if you want to make big numbers.
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We got a guy in our group of idiots (forum member) that has a 92 with 120k stock 302 and a 66mm turbo/never had the valve covers off with a c4 mild converter that runs 10.85 at 126 all day on drag radials/you'll get there no problem and not worry about sweeping your engine off the track. he just did it to show how easy it is to go fast with the right parts. got @ 50 runs on it
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That was at 18 lbs
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I would find a forged crank, a custom cam and a better flowing intake if you want to make big numbers.
"BIG" numbers will be down the road. i will be happy with whatever it puts down. well see where it gets me. 600+ hp will make a awesome street/strip car. thats what i want. drive to the track( about 25 min ) pop of some low 6's in the 1/8 and drive it back.
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Always fun to pull in to the entrance booth /pay and turn into tech/staging lanes and rip off a sick pass/good luck keep us posted
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talked to the machine shop, block is done and getting everything balanced. should have the shortblock this weekend. also im builind my c4. parts from pa showed up today. now im not a pro at painting but i think it came out good for the first coat. got one more to add.

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power dont kill factory cranks... rpms does... i have seen people make 800 whp on factory crank just keeps revs down
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we have ENGINE. got my shortblock back saturday. got all the gaskets and im putting this together. hope to have it in the car sometime this week. also the c4 is put back together with alto racing clutches, and new steel input shaft.





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you didnt stud the motor? are those bolts
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you didnt stud the motor? are those bolts
arp head studs and arp main cap bolts. just main bolts no studs
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Got the engine installed and waiting on some final pieces to show up

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What fan / radiator are you going to use? Curious because my manual fan isn't quite cutting it on 98 degree days without AC.

I don't know about the stock crank, My engine guy went over my 95' F4TE lightning block before I added the turbo and said he wouldn't suggest more than 500hp on it.
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I'm getting a forged crank.
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What fan / radiator are you going to use? Curious because my manual fan isn't quite cutting it on 98 degree days without AC.

I don't know about the stock crank, My engine guy went over my 95' F4TE lightning block before I added the turbo and said he wouldn't suggest more than 500hp on it.
im runing a fluidyne 3 core and a taurus fan. dont know why he told you that about the crank? The engine guy that assembled mine has many 351's with stock cranks and s400's that are in the 5.70 range in the 1/8 mile.
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here are some updated pictures.



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Nice project. Car has a great stance and your engine bay paint is a big improvement.
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Wheels look great!
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