obama billboard. LOL

[Chauncy]

Originally Posted by HELIMAN

Is Cellos turning into a hit/run bitch like Yount and Nay?

Turning into?

[Fast Horse]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

Hitler = Fascism/Nationalist =/= socialism

Wrong.

Nazi= National Socialist

More specifically- Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English.

It's just another router to tyranny.

[Chauncy]

Originally Posted by Fast Horse

Wrong.

Nazi= National Socialist

More specifically- Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei, or National Socialist German Workers' Party in English.

It's just another router to tyranny.

SHHH you'll confuse people with that history stuff. Haven't you heard? Tea baggers don't have history books, only Cellos' gang does.

[SATURN5]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

The best part about all this, is that it simply destroys any remaining credibility the tea baggers once had. I think it's great that they are sharing with world just how pathetic and stupid they really are. They make it very clear that history and political science simply isn't their forte.

Actually, tea party members are above average intelligence and income and it's you that is making it very clear that you don't have a clue about history or political science or the TEA Party.

EDIT: Added a good story by Karl Rove... Yes I know, instant lie.. unless you actually paid attention and know that it isn't.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...IDDLTopStories

[SATURN5]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

Hitler = Fascism/Nationalist =/= socialism

Hitler = National Socialist.

il Duce' = Facist...

Should have put the bong down more often.

[Cellos88gt]

Originally Posted by Ray III

You think he's coming back? Just a typical knee-jerk bash-and-run.

I apologize for having better #### to do with my life.

[Chauncy]

Did you really just use that card? It's as old and as played out as the race card. Next time keep your mouth shut about things you have no clue about, and you won't have to try to explain how you're "too cool for school" and didn't know the facts.

[Cellos88gt]

Originally Posted by SATURN5

Hitler = National Socialist.

il Duce' = Facist...

Should have put the bong down more often.

I think you should look up the differences between the two and you will realize that they are few and far between.

Fascism is an ideology that unites nationalism + socialism, the early fascist leaders in the 1920s needed this union to keep Italy united because they knew that without it the internal political conflict would've been too great to deal with.

Nazism is basically the same thing, the difference between the two has to do with the issue of race. The Nazis believed that there was a "master race", Fascists on the other hand believe in a "master state" so to speak, they don't care about race.

To compare Obama's ideologies to what is mentioned above is simply disgusting and I think many of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Obama has some socialistic ideas but to say he wants to convert the entire country is ridiculous.

[Cellos88gt]

Originally Posted by Chauncy

Did you really just use that card? It's as old and as played out as the race card. Next time keep your mouth shut about things you have no clue about, and you won't have to try to explain how you're "too cool for school" and didn't know the facts.

You guys are the one comparing obama to Hitler and Lenin, you're the one that should probably keep their mouth shut.

[Cellos88gt]

Originally Posted by HELIMAN

Is Cellos turning into a hit/run bitch like Yount and Nay?

You of all people should not be talking about "hit/run" bitches.

[tweety flew by you]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

To compare Obama's ideologies to what is mentioned above is simply disgusting and I think many of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Obama has some socialistic ideas but to say he wants to convert the entire country is ridiculous.

I think you are being naive

His whole campaign was based on change. The only reason he could not change fast enough was the infighting among democrats.

Prove me wrong by showing me what he has done to promote capitalism. Almost his entire agenda is a socialistic one

[tweety flew by you]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

You guys are the one comparing obama to Hitler and Lenin, you're the one that should probably keep their mouth shut.

I will agree that Obama is far different from hitler when it comes to the murder of millions of people.

But please explain how there versions of socialism are much different from each other

[SATURN5]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

I think you should look up the differences between the two and you will realize that they are few and far between.

Fascism is an ideology that unites nationalism + socialism, the early fascist leaders in the 1920s needed this union to keep Italy united because they knew that without it the internal political conflict would've been too great to deal with.

Nazism is basically the same thing, the difference between the two has to do with the issue of race. The Nazis believed that there was a "master race", Fascists on the other hand believe in a "master state" so to speak, they don't care about race.

To compare Obama's ideologies to what is mentioned above is simply disgusting and I think many of you should be ashamed of yourselves. Obama has some socialistic ideas but to say he wants to convert the entire country is ridiculous.

Granted they are two sides of the same coin, but both have distinct differences.

To say what Obama and the liberals in Congress/Senate are doing isn't leading the country down the road to self destruction is naive.

[Cellos88gt]

Originally Posted by tweety flew by you

I think you are being naive

His whole campaign was based on change. The only reason he could not change fast enough was the infighting among democrats.

Prove me wrong by showing me what he has done to promote capitalism. Almost his entire agenda is a socialistic one

Yes, well unfortunately for you I have no problem with a little bit of socialism. I don't think there should ever be one extreme. I don't think Capitalism solves anything for anyone except for the fat cats who are already at the top of the food chain.

[Voltron]

**** you and everything you stand for bill. EVERYTHING!!!

[SATURN5]

There will come a time in your life when you will realize how wrong you were...

Like once you begin to pay taxes...

[tweety flew by you]

By the way I don't think the sign points out that Obama is a facist or nationalist or a nazi. Because Hitler and Lenin considered themselves very different from each other and hated the policies the other put in place.

The sign merely points out that Obama's ideology is a socialistic one and history proves that socialism does not work.

[Doktor]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

Yes, well unfortunately for you I have no problem with a little bit of socialism. I don't think there should ever be one extreme. I don't think Capitalism solves anything for anyone except for the fat cats who are already at the top of the food chain.

Sure, as long as it's someone's money other than your own, why not a little bit of socialism?

When/(if) it's your money they're are spending around, come back and talk to us.

[tweety flew by you]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

Yes, well unfortunately for you I have no problem with a little bit of socialism. I don't think there should ever be one extreme. I don't think Capitalism solves anything for anyone except for the fat cats who are already at the top of the food chain.

I disagree capitalism has brought the highest standard of living than any other form of government in the world. It is no where near perfect and I also do not believe in one extreme form of Government. I thank out founding fathers to makes sure there is a limited government with checks and balances.

I don't believe socialism solves anything except mooch of the people who work hard to achieve what they want in life.I also believes socialism eventually eats away at our individual rights and freedoms. Capitalism is what the American Dream is all about

We can debate capitalism and socialism to death, the fact remains that you still have not demonstrated the difference in policies between Hitler and Obama when it comes to socialism

[Cellos88gt]

Originally Posted by tweety flew by you

The sign merely points out that Obama's ideology is a socialistic one and history proves that socialism does not work.

Yeah China and Europe are really going down the ####ter these days.

I'm sorry but Capitalism is what got us into this economic mess we are currently in. Why should we continue to trust big business in know what is best for us?

[tweety flew by you]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

Yeah China and Europe are really going down the ####ter these days.

I'm sorry but Capitalism is what got us into this economic mess we are currently in. Why should we continue to trust big business in know what is best for us?

Actually China is the result of Government regulation. When the Government drives the cost of manufacturing to unsustainable levels businesses move production off shore

And Europe?!?!?!?! are you freaking kidding me. You do know what going on with Greece, Spain, UK, and the Euro......... and the money the US,Germany, and France has to do to bail them out right!!?!?!

Capitalism did not get us into this mess, The government set businesses up for this to occur starting with the Clinton administration.

Once again we are going into a thread drift and would really like to hear why Obama is not a socialist?

[dba-murder]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

Yeah China and Europe are really going down the ####ter these days.

Actually it might not be what you think either. There are plenty of Euro gitters but some well respected economist are predicting a China bubble to pop.

[mmeans]

Many of the European nations are in terrible financial shape due to socialism. Soon in France each worker will be taxed to cover 3 retirees. Well, if the contry is still able to even distribute the funds.

Obama is pretty close to Lenin in economic philosophy, just look at his big money doners and his economic decisions. He's no friend of the working if you ask me.


Michael Means

[tweety flew by you]

Originally Posted by dba-murder

Actually it might not be what you think either. There are plenty of Euro gitters but some well respected economist are predicting a China bubble to pop.

Maybe, they have some serious issues there. However, with the regulations in force here and Europe and with China taking on more and more deregulations to allow capitalism to flourish, they will do just fine.

[Cellos88gt]

Originally Posted by tweety flew by you

Once again we are going into a thread drift and would really like to hear why Obama is not a socialist?

If Obama was a socialist,

-All of the troops in Iraq + Afghanistan would be out.

-He would eliminate health insurance all together.

-The banks wouldn't still be doing the same antics that got us in this mess in the first place.

[Cellos88gt]

I think Capitalism should be allowed to flourish responsibly.

[SATURN5]

China's already having labor issues, as the coastal cities where most of the manufacturing is being done, is starting to move inland because the standard of living has risen to a point where workers are demanding higher wages (sound familiar?), so plant owners are picking up and heading to locals where the labor rate is more favorable..

It's just a matter of time before China and India's standard of living rises to match Europe and us...

[tweety flew by you]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

If Obama was a socialist,

-All of the troops in Iraq + Afghanistan would be out.

-He would eliminate health insurance all together.

-The banks wouldn't still be doing the same antics that got us in this mess in the first place.

The troops in the Middle East has nothing to do with socialism, plenty of socialist countries have proven that.

He tried to eliminate private health insurance, he does not have the votes for it, however if you read the bill, he set up the parameters that will cause the failure of the private health insurance and have single payer take over

The Banks are not doing the same thing, matter of fact loans are very difficult to get right now. However Freddie and Fannie mae are still doing the same antics and guess what?!?! They are owned by the Government and might be in need of a Trillion dollar bailout!!! And you are aware of the financial regulatory bill that is being passed tonight, right?!?!??!!


Once again it looks like the sign was not that far off

[mmeans]

The banks need to stick around for those sweetheart deals, like the mortgage on Obama's house.


Michael Means

[Cellos88gt]

Originally Posted by tweety flew by you

The troops in the Middle East has nothing to do with socialism, plenty of socialist countries have proven that.

He tried to eliminate private health insurance, he does not have the votes for it, however if you read the bill, he set up the parameters that will cause the failure of the private health insurance and have single payer take over

The Banks are not doing the same thing, matter of fact loans are very difficult to get right now. However Freddie and Fannie mae are still doing the same antics and guess what?!?! They are owned by the Government and might be in need of a Trillion dollar bailout!!! And you are aware of the financial regulatory bill that is being passed tonight, right?!?!??!!


Once again it looks like the sign was not that far off

He never tried to eliminate private insurance.

I think you should explain to us what socialism is because I'm willing to bet that your idea of socialism is probably not even socialist.

[SATURN5]

The finance bill just passed 60-39...

Brown, Collins and Snowe yet again have ####ed the Country.

[Doktor]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

Yeah China and Europe are really going down the ####ter these days.

I'm sorry but Capitalism is what got us into this economic mess we are currently in. Why should we continue to trust big business in know what is best for us?

My vote for then dumbest post ever on the Corral. We've had this discussion before and it just doesn't sink in with you.

China is OK since they started embracing Capitalism. Europe is in the ####ter. There is great concern throughout the financial markets that Europe is a heartbeat from tumbling into the bankruptcy abyss with catastrophic impact.

Greece (a part of Europe) is having riots over the past few months over Gov't cutbacks because they just can't afford the entitlement state, France is broke, England is broke, Spain is broke, Ireland is broke, Portugal is broke, Germany is broke and wagging the "stop spending finger at BHO.

Looks like are all doing great. You need to stop watching MSNBC or CNN and get all the news, not just the left filtered news.

Look right at Barney Frank and Chris Dodd for the main culprits on the financial meltdown.

Looks like there is College education and the real world education. Your parents may want to ask for a tuition refund.

[HELIMAN]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

You of all people should not be talking about "hit/run" bitches.

Care to answer either of my questions?

[tweety flew by you]

Originally Posted by Cellos88gt

He never tried to eliminate private insurance.

I think you should explain to us what socialism is because I'm willing to bet that your idea of socialism is probably not even socialist.

Please explain how the current healthcare bill helps private health insurance companies and the people who are on them and why they should NOT switch over to the public option

I think my comments on post #23 are some good definitions of Socialism

So what are your definitions of socialism, because maybe that's why you are confused by what the sign is saying

[Chauncy]

Cellos, I tried to tell you to keep your mouth shut about things you don't understand. You've hit rock and started blasting holes instead of digging, give it up.