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Old 03-20-2009, 02:11 AM   #1
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Top 10 worst engines ever designed...

10. Kia 2.0l I-4. Found in the sportage. It's Kia from the 90's, and it ain't pretty.

9. Cadillac Northstar 4.6 V-8. Maintenance nightmares, that are hideously expensive. A blown headgasket, although not tooo terribly common, was the death sentence for the Northstar, since removing the headbolts also meant stripping out the block. Decent power, but the oil leaks and general reliability combined with the cost leave a lot to be desired.

8. Mitsubishi 2.4L I-4. Cough, cough. Too...much...smoke. Can't... see... I hired some galants to drive by my house and kill mosquitoes. I think they burned more oil than gas.

7. Chrysler 2.0L I-4. Nothing like a head gasket to pour oil all over the rear of your engine. Chrysler decided to make sure that you knew you had oil in your car, mostly by leaving stains on your driveway. It's saving grace is that the head gasket on a 4-banger isn't quite as expensive as the V-6's and V-8's to come later.

6. Ford 3.8L V-6. Too many head gasket problems, poor power production, noisy and harsh. And Ford used it for 20 years.

5. GM 3.1/3.4L. Famous for their intake leaks and subseqent head gaskets, and dumped into just about any mediocre mid 90's to early 00's, wouldn't have been so bad if not for the intakes. I think their intake bolts came loose from the factory.

4. GM 3.4L DOHC (POS). Terrible to work on, with an oil pump drive shaft O-ring that calls for removal of the rear head to replace, and loves to leak like a 2 year old with a full bottle of orange juice. Interference engine = new engine when the timing belt goes (with regularity) and overall cost for something that isn't that special leaves this one with a poor score.

3. GM 2.4L "Quad Four". Much like the 3.4L DOHC, the quad is a steaming pile of crap hiding under the guise of high tech DOHC goodness. Don't let if fool you.

2. Chrysler 2.7L V-6. Found commonly in the Intrepid/Concorde/LHS/Sebring, the oiling problems on this engine are legendary. Of course, it is much easier to blame it on the customer for not changing their oil at the specified times, rather than admit the real problem that oil sludging clogged up the oil passages and created a ticking time bomb that would make you wish that Chrysler did the lifetime warranty circa 1999.

1. Cadillac 4100. 'Nuff said.


Well guys, post up your most hated engines! A why, or personal experience working/dealing with the piece of junk helps!
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i beg to differ about number 9...

way more running past 100-150k than not...and it was very advanced for the time...mine's creeping up on 125k and i'm not very nice to it at all...

when you get a good one...you get a GREAT one...when you get a bad one...you get a really bad one...just like any of the big 3's engines...
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How about the aluminum block engine from the Vega?
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6. Ford 3.8L V-6. Too many head gasket problems, poor power production, noisy and harsh. And Ford used it for 20 years.


pretty much any ford v6 the 4.0 was a pos I have seen way to many with cracked heads.
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my sisters 3.8 mustang has 200k on it and it runs just as good now as it did new in 98.
Only maintanence has been harmonic balancer and altenator. Been a great car.

My main complaint with that engine is that is makes more niose than power
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GM 305. boat anchor.
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GM Ecotec. boat anchor.
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you gotta be kidding. the ecotec is like the best 4cyl out of detroit in forever. bullet proof.
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just ruffling your feathers a bit...lol
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figures LOL. i thought to myself, i hope he is just kidding.
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my sisters 3.8 mustang has 200k on it and it runs just as good now as it did new in 98.
Only maintanence has been harmonic balancer and altenator. Been a great car.

My main complaint with that engine is that is makes more niose than power
98 was when they revised them in the stang, they were much better than the prior years. 200k is not unheard of.
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Ford 255,'nuff said.
Pontiac 301,no balls.
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What was the 80's cadillac 8-6-4 engine?

I guess you boys too young to know about that.
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I *should* be way too young to know about it....

but it was a engine that shut down valves when it went to 6 or 4 cylinders but didnt have multi-port injection so you'd firewall it and re-activate the currently dead cylinders....and flood them whilst doing so.
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i beg to differ about number 9...
My brother wouldn't beg, he'd just differ - he's about to put a new (to him) engine in his. For just the reason cited.
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they are dead on with the chrysler 2.7, junk. Wasn't the Caddy 4-6-8 engine a 4100? My Grandma had an 81 Eldorado with that engine, it had to be replaced and it got the 4-6-8 crap disabled. I would have to disagree with the 3.1, at least untill the 3100 version. The ones called 3100 went downhill, but an old 2.8/3.1 were bulletproof.
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What was the 80's cadillac 8-6-4 engine?

I guess you boys too young to know about that.
My friend's dad bought one when it hit the market. He thought it was the best idea he'd seen. Then, it sucked donkey balls. They got rid of it a few months later.
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No mention of GM passenger-car diesels of the 80's? They sucked so much there was quite a market for gas-engine conversions.

The unsleeved mosquito-killer vega engine. Classic turd.

Saab 2-stroke?
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Im surprised no one mentioned the motor that was in the old chrysler minivans. I think they had issues with the seals around the springs and would start burning oil like crazy.
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The Mazda Rotary engine.. What a pain in the ####ing balls to work on that piece of #### was.
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No "worst engines of all time" thread is complete without the Turbo 301. A V-8 with a turbo is hard to screw up but GM did so.
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Im surprised no one mentioned the motor that was in the old chrysler minivans. I think they had issues with the seals around the springs and would start burning oil like crazy.
its funny... you don't see them on the road very often anymore, but when you do, there's a big blue cloud behind them.
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its funny... you don't see them on the road very often anymore, but when you do, there's a big blue cloud behind them.
And sometimes oil.

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No "worst engines of all time" thread is complete without the Turbo 301. A V-8 with a turbo is hard to screw up but GM did so.
This. What a disappointment
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I threw 15lbs of boost on an old 80 305 using two Eaton M90's...

Thing had like zero oil pressure hot at idle, with straight 50.

Never did kill it..
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Ford 4-banger? If it didn't leak oil, it obviously wasn't a Ford.
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1. Cadillac 4100. 'Nuff said.
I had one of these. At 24K it knocked like crazy and a new engine was installed under warranty. They had installed the wrong dipstick at the factory. 60K, headgasket. 120K, head gasket and cylinder head overhaul, which I did myself. This is beyond a doubt the worst engine to overhaul ever. The head bolts were like 3 feet long, how stupid. They snapped like twigs and cost $35/piece. But, after I did my magic, it ran better than ever- no more coolant loss, no more massive consumption of oil, decent power for a big car (finally), and 30 MPG on the highway. Why couldn't GM do it like that from the factory? Box stock, it was a slow, gas gulping, overheating, flaming piece of crap.
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Mitsubishi/Chrysler 2.6. Thing sent more Caravans to an early grave than rot, and that's a lot.
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Chevy 350 diesel??
At least the truck model one's.
I think they put a few in the gm big body cars IIRC.
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The GM diesels circa 1980. GM touted the diesels across several brands. My sister's friend's dad gave her a new Oldsmobile diesel. After the engine was replaced, she was driving on the freeway and the power steering and power brakes both failed, which scared the hell out of the girl since she was still in highschool. They dumped the car three weeks after they had bought it.
I think GM quietly removed the diesels from the lineup within months.

1979 Ford turbo 2.3. This was a different animal than the svo/merkur turbo... the turbo drew air through a carb, meaning that the homogenious air/fuel vapor went through a centrifuge... think about that.

Messershmitt 163... unfortunate tendency to detonate.

Wright Flyer... piston would occassionally exit the top of the cylinder head. Engine was located between pilot and passenger.
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10. Kia 2.0l I-4. Found in the sportage. It's Kia from the 90's, and it ain't pretty.
No experience with these, don't even know what they look like.

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9. Cadillac Northstar 4.6 V-8. Maintenance nightmares, that are hideously expensive. A blown headgasket, although not tooo terribly common, was the death sentence for the Northstar, since removing the headbolts also meant stripping out the block. Decent power, but the oil leaks and general reliability combined with the cost leave a lot to be desired.
The thing I find worst about these is the lame coolant manifold on the back of the engine, coupled with the same style silicone gaskets that led to the demise of many a 3100.

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8. Mitsubishi 2.4L I-4. Cough, cough. Too...much...smoke. Can't... see... I hired some galants to drive by my house and kill mosquitoes. I think they burned more oil than gas.
Actually that can be said of any Mitsubishi. 3.0L Caravan anyone?

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7. Chrysler 2.0L I-4. Nothing like a head gasket to pour oil all over the rear of your engine. Chrysler decided to make sure that you knew you had oil in your car, mostly by leaving stains on your driveway. It's saving grace is that the head gasket on a 4-banger isn't quite as expensive as the V-6's and V-8's to come later.
This one is kind of interesting in that it wasn't usually the head gasket itself. It was electrical arcing killing the gasket, and sometimes the head and block, due to an insufficiently grounded head. Part of the fix for these was to install a grounding harness.

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6. Ford 3.8L V-6. Too many head gasket problems, poor power production, noisy and harsh. And Ford used it for 20 years.
I think this overstates the problem. It was a head gasket materials problem that Ford handled badly. Toyotas had an even bigger problem with head gaskets in their 3.0L at about the same time but handled the issue well and you never hear about them anymore.

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5. GM 3.1/3.4L. Famous for their intake leaks and subseqent head gaskets, and dumped into just about any mediocre mid 90's to early 00's, wouldn't have been so bad if not for the intakes. I think their intake bolts came loose from the factory.

4. GM 3.4L DOHC (POS). Terrible to work on, with an oil pump drive shaft O-ring that calls for removal of the rear head to replace, and loves to leak like a 2 year old with a full bottle of orange juice. Interference engine = new engine when the timing belt goes (with regularity) and overall cost for something that isn't that special leaves this one with a poor score.

3. GM 2.4L "Quad Four". Much like the 3.4L DOHC, the quad is a steaming pile of crap hiding under the guise of high tech DOHC goodness. Don't let if fool you.
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2. Chrysler 2.7L V-6. Found commonly in the Intrepid/Concorde/LHS/Sebring, the oiling problems on this engine are legendary. Of course, it is much easier to blame it on the customer for not changing their oil at the specified times, rather than admit the real problem that oil sludging clogged up the oil passages and created a ticking time bomb that would make you wish that Chrysler did the lifetime warranty circa 1999.
Even better they had a run of bad rod bolts which caused spun bearings and made the oiling issue seem even worse to the public than it was.

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1. Cadillac 4100. 'Nuff said.
Pretty much a steaming pile. A lot had flat cams, usually not noticed by owners other than a lack of power. Those long head bolts were to tie the head bolt stresses into the main webs and get them away from the cylinder bores. Just another symptom of the destruction of Cadillac as a premium brand by trying to move downmarket and starving the division of the money needed to be what they should have been
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come on now the 2.3 ford was hard to kill... trust me i tried
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Ford 4-banger? If it didn't leak oil, it obviously wasn't a Ford.

No drippys from mine....

You want oil.....

One word.... Corvair...
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