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Old 07-08-2002, 10:59 PM   #1
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Thumbs up What happens if you start using regular oil after running synthetic for awhile?

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You save a few bucks on oil!
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Re: What happens if you start using regular oil after running synthetic for awhile?

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i have heard that it can start to wear on bearings but i have done "switchback" and nothing happened at all so far...but i dont have a high performance vehicle so consult a professional...
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I know what happens NOTHING, just the oil got changed.
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I just always heard people saying "once you go black you'll never go back", um I mean once you go synthetic you cant go back.
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Yeah, and those same people say you can't switch to synthetic on a high milage car or all of your seals will leak. I did that on my 86 GT and oil consumption IMPROVED. So much for listening to "Some People".

If you do return to dino oil, I suggest you stick with one brand. "Some People" also say that mixing oil brands is not good. In my experience, I have seen some problems mixing Western (Valoline) with Pennsylvania oils (QS). The Penn oils have a higher parafin content than western oils do. I have seen nasty deposits on valve trains in cars that mix different brands. This is MY OPINION based on MY EXPERIENCES. I ddo NOT have scientific (repeatable) data to base that on. There are several people on this board who are more qualified than me on petrochemicals than I am, and they might not agree with this. So I say, stick with one brand/viscosity (dino or synthetic) and you won't have oil related problems unless you lose your oil pump.

BTW, I check my oil first thing in the morning. Cobra heads hold a lot of oil and can give a false low reading if checked right after shutting off the engine (like when gassing up). So I check mine after letting the engine sit until it's cool.
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If you switch from synoils back to dinos, your engine will surely drop onto the pavement.

BTW, there is almost no oil basestock being derived from Pennsylvania nowadays. Doesn't matter what it says in the name (QS), it's all from the Arab countries or Venezuela.
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If you switch from synoils back to dinos, your engine will surely drop onto the pavement.
i have never heard of anyone losing an engine over something like this...i have never heard of any problems when people do this...it is probably some marketing ploy used by oil companies to get your money...i will take my chances! if my engine then i will tell you about it but i doubt that will happen...
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Drivenafordlately,
Dude, I may be wrong...... but I do believe Bierbelly was joking.

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My bad Bierbelly...didnt mean to come off wrong
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My bad Bierbelly...didnt mean to come off wrong
You can usually take about half of what I say seriously. In this case, it was the second half. you shouldn't have any trouble switching back and forth to synoils.
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If you switch back to Dino oil you will die.


Don't be a wuss, pay the extra few bucks dude!
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Ive seen this "fish" guy on here before. He seems to try and cause problems a lot. I wouldnt trust him.
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If you don't use the good stuff (like Mobil 1) your motor will sludge up.
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If you don't use the good stuff (like Mobil 1) your motor will sludge up.
Wow, your contributions to the Tech Forum have been fvckin amazing so far.

Did Misericordia finally get internet access???
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Wow, your contributions to the Tech Forum have been fvckin amazing so far.

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What makes you think YOU are so fking amazing? I am just stateing a fact buddy. Synthetic oil keeps your motor cleaner.
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Clean engines are pretty, and it sure makes you feel good to pull parts off an see that it looks clean. However they are not necessarily always better. Some people complain that penzoil leaves nasty depoits in your engine over a long time. They are correct, it does leave a little. However what they don't tell you is that those deposits are kind of a waxy matterial that actually helps out your engine on cold startups. They coat everything in the engine and the waxy deposits actually turn back into a liquid when the engine warms up. They help the engine but are really noticable on high mileage engines. The main reason people say switching from dino to synthetic is a bad idea is the solvents in the synthetic(I don't think solvents is the right word but thats just about what they are) can remove some of those deposits made by dino. So just imagine if some of those deposits were in your seals, perhapse helping close up some minor cracks. Now the snythetic comes along and removes all the deposits leaving the cracks to leak--> biger leak-->bigger leak! Now that is why "some people" say don't switch. I would say switch anyway and replace what should be replaced anyway. Also, "they also say" that mixing the wrong oils can make some bad things I have herd refered to as "glue". I can't validate this but it does make sense that it could happen. After all who exactly would check to make sure all types of oil work well together?

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You get sludge and build up. That is what I was told and I have no idea why. I dunno if it is true or not, but yes you will save a few bucks on oil.

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You get sludge and build up. That is what I was told and I have no idea why. I dunno if it is true or not, but yes you will save a few bucks on oil.

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That sounds true to me. Synthetic oil is man made and much cleaner than petroleum is so it doesn't leave all the gunk of cheaper oil.

Your motor running on synthetic >>>>>>

Your motor running on dino oil >>>>>>>>
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you know I don't cause trouble.. how would you like it if I told this board the truth about you NOT OWNING a Mustang. Those Video's and pictures are copied from my Friends web site. Poser!
Anyways fishboy, Ive seen your camaro and I dont think its right to put Z28 emblems on a V6 with some Flowmasters, I mean Flowmaster. To all you HELPFUL people thanks for the input and to CitizenTuna Ill see you in my rearview mirror AGAIN.
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Your motor will sludge up if you don't change your oil(either kind) routinely. Now, your routine will vary, I change my dino oil every 2K miles b/c it sees a little more abuse than normal street driving. All my cars I've owned have been on dino oil only.
Even if I ran synthetic I would change it at 2K miles b/c no matter what kind of oil it is, it will break down.

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This kind of cracked me up as I envisioned some guy making synthetic oil in a butter churn.
I must be clueless when it comes to making oil, but how do they make dino oil then?
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what brand oil are all of you using and what brand of oil would be good for a new rebuilt 96 motor all forged internals with the headswap???
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Anyways fishboy, Ive seen your camaro and I dont think its right to put Z28 emblems on a V6 with some Flowmasters, I mean Flowmaster. To all you HELPFUL people thanks for the input and to CitizenTuna Ill see you in my rearview mirror AGAIN.

If I did own a real Z28 that had a slipping clutch i bet i could still beat you! Not hard to beat a kid who drives a yugo!


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Your motor will sludge up if you don't change your oil(either kind) routinely. Now, your routine will vary, I change my dino oil every 2K miles b/c it sees a little more abuse than normal street driving. All my cars I've owned have been on dino oil only.
Even if I ran synthetic I would change it at 2K miles b/c no matter what kind of oil it is, it will break down.


This kind of cracked me up as I envisioned some guy making synthetic oil in a butter churn.
I must be clueless when it comes to making oil, but how do they make dino oil then?
Dino oil is refined from crude oil, and is what they call a "middle distillate" or "vacuum distillate". First, the low carbon number, highly volatile stuff (gasoline) boils off, then the diesel/jet fuel, then the remaining stuff is put into a different distillation column and distilled under vacuum to produce the oil base stocks. These may be further refined (by other methods) to clean them up, then are mixed with additive packages to make the final product. But because it's made by distillation, dino oil is a very complex mixture of organic chemicals that all boil in the same range.

Synthetic oil is made by combining about four molecules of a relatively small molecule, decene (C10) to form what's called an oligomer of C40. Because the starting material is relatively pure, the resulting base stock has a very limited number of different molecules, and virtually none of the harmful molecules, such as oxygenates and heterocyclic nitrogen and sulfur compounds, as in dino oil.
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I see no reason not to run conventional oils, (or switch back to) if you wish. I believe that's what Ford recommends.

I run synthetic oils so as to help out the next owner of my car.
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Thanks bierbelly, I learn something new everyday.
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