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Poor mans stroker

I did a pretty thorough search looking for a poor mans stroker. Hard to believe there isn't a thread with this title. Anyone have any information on the recipe?

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Yeah it's called a 351.

Due to the cost of new stroker cranks it's more effective to buy new. Unless you know how to offset grind a crank... but you wouldn't be asking if you did. Poor men don't have strokers, but if you're serious, get with an advertiser on here and hammer out a plan and get a quote.

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I did a pretty thorough search looking for a poor mans stroker. Hard to believe there isn't a thread with this title. Anyone have any information on the recipe?

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Nothing for fords like the 383 chevy. Srokers can be built out of stock parts but they are not for the poor man and were done before aftermarket stuff was available. Stroker kits are available for less than $1000, doesn't get much cheaper than than that. My first 347 kit cost $4500 and wasn't nearly the quality of whats available today.

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x2 on the above quote ,,,I have found now you can even buy a built used stroker for a decent price have seen 3 this week in my local for sale for around 1k
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I remember people talking about taking rods and crank out of something to make a weird number 302 based stroker.like a 337ci or something.
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Nothing for fords like the 383 chevy. Srokers can be built out of stock parts but they are not for the poor man and were done before aftermarket stuff was available. Stroker kits are available for less than $1000, doesn't get much cheaper than than that. My first 347 kit cost $4500 and wasn't nearly the quality of whats available today.
My first stroker kit cost $2500.00 on 3/17/94 from "The Power Source" in Greer ,SC............It was a 351c offset ground crank with 400sbc rods and BRC Pistons making it a 367" Stroker..............I ended up ripping the crank snout off cranking down on a homemade blower brace...............I wish I had access to those crank specs because I still have the rods and pistons.....those darn pistons are 140 bucks a pop
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393 strokers are Cheap to build.

Cast crank about 400-600$
Stock 351 rods Should come with the block.
Stock used or new 302 pistons. get some .030 TRW's for like 100$.
= 393 stroker with forged pistons that will take 600+ RWHP.

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I remember reading about this back in the early 90's and they used mopar 318rods with a ground crank but I can't remember the pistons. Like stated above kits are very cheap now and you can get templates to grind for the rod clearance. I've never used one so be sure to check clearance as with any build.

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IMO, the cheapest way to do a 302 stroker might be to pick up someone elses project


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x2 I purchased a project car here on the corral that included a chp 331 for $1000. After I sold the parts I didn't want I ended up with a free engine.

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Why do that when you can get a 351 and rebuild it for alot less than a stroker. As soon as you start throwing boost on that stroker you will understand. Start with the 351.


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Why do that when you can get a 351 and rebuild it for alot less than a stroker. As soon as you start throwing boost on that stroker you will understand. Start with the 351.
This is what I intend to do someday. For now I want to build something based on a 302 as the engine in my coupe is getting tired and the blow by from the previous owner running a "few" bottles thru it .

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Then why the hell would you stroke a piece of #### block? The OE 302 sucks balls. Just put a 351w in it now. There is no more cost in rebuilding a roller block 351w vs a 302 block.


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Then why the hell would you stroke a piece of #### block? The OE 302 sucks balls. Just put a 351w in it now. There is no more cost in rebuilding a roller block 351w vs a 302 block.
lol when you are talking about real power and real rpm, the 351 block isnt much better.. sure its better than a 302 block, but if you want to start messing with large amounts of boost, nitrous, or even rpm.. you would need to upgrade either block.

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The 351w block is good for an easy 700-800hp, but many have taken it to about 1000 hp. So how is it not better than the 302?


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The 351w block is good for an easy 700-800hp, but many have taken it to about 1000 hp. So how is it not better than the 302?
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Re: Poor mans stroker

351 ROLLER block good to an easy 700-800? Show me......

Late 60s-Early 70s sure, but rollers? Not from what I have seen.
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351 ROLLER block good to an easy 700-800? Show me......

Late 60s-Early 70s sure, but rollers? Not from what I have seen.
exactly.. but its easier to argue on the internet when you only take data that supports your claim

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Then maybe you guys should go over to the turbo forums and broaden your knowledge base. I guess only the turbo guys know this stuff.

This search is for "F4TE".

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exactly.. but its easier to argue on the internet when you only take data that supports your claim
You must have seen the light.


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This guy has done many unusual strokers.

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