testing during the season

[Bruce Hemminger]

I was testing the AFM 1 3/4 shorty headers

Bruce Hemminger RTE 66 testing - YouTube

Bruce Hemminger RTE 66 testing - YouTube

[RoysGray88]

Results? Doesn't look like you have to spin that motor very high, I figured you would buzz the hell out of it to run those numbers. Always a treat to watch you put the hurtin on the RS crowd.

[robsgt]

That happened very fast!! Looks like they worked!

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by RoysGray88

Results? Doesn't look like you have to spin that motor very high, I figured you would buzz the hell out of it to run those numbers. Always a treat to watch you put the hurtin on the RS crowd.

Remember its a stock cam. 211 deg of dur@.050. That doesn't help for rpm unless you have a blower to help the rpm. I don't shift it above 6300 (usually between 6100-6200) in R/S trim or the ET falls like a brick!!!!LOL. The first gear shift light setting is 5400, but happens at 6200. then 2-3 is set at 5700 and happens at 6100. and so on.

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by robsgt

That happened very fast!! Looks like they worked!

Yes they did. I had a set of custom flanged Bassani 1 5/8's shorties that I ran for years and then switched to the AFM 1 3/4's. My Bassani's are for sale. They have 1/2 thick custom done Twisted wedge flanges. $150.00

[337stroker]

nice video bruce. Isn't it fun driving stick. I think if I can come up with enough parts to fix my trans at a discounted price I will try one last time at shattering that stupid record. (I'm sure you know some people who can help)LOL. (I know it can be done) PS say high to deb

[foxrodsinc]

i thought the cam could be any duration and lsa but .480 at the retainer.

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by foxrodsinc

i thought the cam could be any duration and lsa but .480 at the retainer.

Hell I wished!!!! The pushrod cars were restricted to stock cam specs. The 4.6L cars were allower 250 deg of dur@.050!!!!!!!!! Total politics over there in the NMRA!!!! They got away with no limits for years!!!! TBD is what duration said in the rules!!!! Total BS!!! I still kicked there asses!!!!!!

Ans yes my cam was a 100% OEM stock 5.0L camshaft. Not a regrind, not a custom cam, STOCK 100%

[nick5oh]

Originally Posted by Bruce Hemminger

Hell I wished!!!! The pushrod cars were restricted to stock cam specs. The 4.6L cars were allower 250 deg of dur@.050!!!!!!!!! Total politics over there in the NMRA!!!! They got away with no limits for years!!!! TBD is what duration said in the rules!!!! Total BS!!! I still kicked there asses!!!!!!

Ans yes my cam was a 100% OEM stock 5.0L camshaft. Not a regrind, not a custom cam, STOCK 100%

Your crazy Bruce! Good job gettin it done!

[FordFreak300]

Awesome vid. It's weird I was just looking at that same shifter handle

[nick5oh]

I noticed that this video, as well as Tommy's and Carlos' videos.....you guys kill the ignition after the stripe and just ride out fourth to help slow you down? Better reading on plugs and keeps juice in the battery and fuel in the tank too I guess????

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by nick5oh

I noticed that this video, as well as Tommy's and Carlos' videos.....you guys kill the ignition after the stripe and just ride out fourth to help slow you down? Better reading on plugs and keeps juice in the battery and fuel in the tank too I guess????

I learned to lift, then push in the clutch and then kill ignition. All in that order in a split second. Yes for plug reading.

[nick5oh]

Originally Posted by Bruce Hemminger

I learned to lift, then push in the clutch and then kill ignition. All in that order in a split second. Yes for plug reading.

So you clutch in it eh? It sounds like you just kill it and ride the gear? Doesn't sound like neutral coasting is what I mean?

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by nick5oh

So you clutch in it eh? It sounds like you just kill it and ride the gear? Doesn't sound like neutral coasting is what I mean?

Not at all. I never ride the gear. I think what you are saying is deceleration. Thats a no no!!! You can see in the video that I hit the ignition switch and immediately move the shifter to neutral and cost from there.

[95StangRC]

Awesome video! How is the car doing since World Cup at MIR? I've heard rumors that Real Street doesn't have a sponsor for next year and may be going the way of Pure Street. If so, where will you be racing next year? Love your car and you've always impressed the hell out of me in Real Street.

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by 95StangRC

Awesome video! How is the car doing since World Cup at MIR? I've heard rumors that Real Street doesn't have a sponsor for next year and may be going the way of Pure Street. If so, where will you be racing next year? Love your car and you've always impressed the hell out of me in Real Street.

Car is a shell right now. Stripped everything out of it. I am going to bring it to the dealership that I work for this saturday. We have a body shop also at the dealership. We will put it on the frame rack and straighten everything out before we take the front stub (everything forward of the firewall) off. From there we will put on a new stub, paint the engine compartment, and then fenders, front end, hood, etc.

I assume Real Street is gone. The NMRA relly has dissappointed me on this. Not that they have not got a sponsor. But how they are handling the supposed elimination of the class. Nobody could tell me straight that it is gone. They are just saying nothing and hoping it just goes away. Very bad business to treat your dedicated racers like this. I feel the NMRA's days are numbered. I think they continually make bad decisions.

As far as next year goes. I have spoke with all my sponsors and told them I have no plans. Once I do i will let them know. Alot of poeple and racers want me to move up to REN. I simply do not have the $$$$$$$ to do that. It would take $30k-$40k to build a class leading engine for REN and I am not going to do that. What I am going to do is put a clutchless Liberty 5 speed in one of my cars and have fun with it from there. I will take the weight out of the car, put a cam in it, and put some better exhaust on too. Would like to run mid 8's. I appreciate you asking.

[95StangRC]

Originally Posted by Bruce Hemminger

Car is a shell right now. Stripped everything out of it. I am going to bring it to the dealership that I work for this saturday. We have a body shop also at the dealership. We will put it on the frame rack and straighten everything out before we take the front stub (everything forward of the firewall) off. From there we will put on a new stub, paint the engine compartment, and then fenders, front end, hood, etc.

I assume Real Street is gone. The NMRA relly has dissappointed me on this. Not that they have not got a sponsor. But how they are handling the supposed elimination of the class. Nobody could tell me straight that it is gone. They are just saying nothing and hoping it just goes away. Very bad business to treat your dedicated racers like this. I feel the NMRA's days are numbered. I think they continually make bad decisions.

As far as next year goes. I have spoke with all my sponsors and told them I have no plans. Once I do i will let them know. Alot of poeple and racers want me to move up to REN. I simply do not have the $$$$$$$ to do that. It would take $30k-$40k to build a class leading engine for REN and I am not going to do that. What I am going to do is put a clutchless Liberty 5 speed in one of my cars and have fun with it from there. I will take the weight out of the car, put a cam in it, and put some better exhaust on too. Would like to run mid 8's. I appreciate you asking.

Glad to hear you are fixing the car. It has always been one of my favorite NMRA cars. I agree with the way NMRA has handled the situation being wrong. You, Tim, and everyone else has supported the NMRA for years and traveled all over the country and they owe you an explanation and at very least, a big THANK YOU for all the support over the years. I did read that they are now allowing stick shift cars in EFI Renegade (Or I Guess Carb/EFI Renegade now), but like you said converting the car to be competetive in Renegade would cost a small fortune. Either way, good luck with your plans and I'm sure it will be nice banging the gears in that Liberty and not having to swap in your spare trans before your next pass! LOL!

[306greenstang]

That trans looks like it shifts like butter.

What trans is it ? What's done to it ?

Car is killer Bruce. Good luck next year.

[RoysGray88]

Hey Bruce, any chance of dropping one of those sealed Coyote motors in it for that new class they are talking about? Still would have the fun battling w/o the expense of the high dollar motors like your talking about with the REN class. Just a thought.
I would love to see what they are capable of in a light weight, high geared, faceplated tko setup. I'll follow how it goes down this spring either way.

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by 306greenstang

That trans looks like it shifts like butter.

What trans is it ? What's done to it ?

Car is killer Bruce. Good luck next year.

I have Tremec TKO II/TKO500/TKO600 transmissions. Four with Liberty faceplating and two with Swarr faceplating. I will be selling 5 of my 6 Tremecs very soon. prices are between 1500-2500

Originally Posted by RoysGray88

Hey Bruce, any chance of dropping one of those sealed Coyote motors in it for that new class they are talking about? Still would have the fun battling w/o the expense of the high dollar motors like your talking about with the REN class. Just a thought.
I would love to see what they are capable of in a light weight, high geared, faceplated tko setup. I'll follow how it goes down this spring either way.

Not a snow balls chance in he!!. I don't trust/like the idea of someone being able to control my tune and others. I've experienced too much politics in the NMRA to want to waist my time in that arena. It's outside the tech people I don't trust (Kind of like military people vs politicians). Also if you have an engine issue/failure. You have to buy another sealed engine from what I read in Race Pages. Not so economical to me. One problem and you will have 15k in engines.

[RoysGray88]

Fair enough and understandable.

On your clutchless liberty, better cam, and exhaust game plan: It would be cool to see the ol' hot rod back into the 8's like your SSO combo waaaaay back in the day.

[Coiled]

Sweet video Bruce! Really makes me miss banging the gears. Shoot me a pm when you go to sell your transmissions. I might be interested in one of them. I'm trying to decide if I am going to give the C-4 a chance or go back to a stick.

[nick5oh]

Originally Posted by Bruce Hemminger

Not at all. I never ride the gear. I think what you are saying is deceleration. Thats a no no!!! You can see in the video that I hit the ignition switch and immediately move the shifter to neutral and cost from there.

Why do you say deceleration is a big no no?

I once heard a racer speak of a certain bbc head being ported so much that the big amount of vacuum created after the stripe on decel caused the head to collapse? Not sure if he meant crankcase or manifold vacuum? Is this + accelerated wear and tear for no reason why you say it's a no no or other reasons?

Thanks for your replies Bruce and good luck with all your future endeavours. Make sure you get lots of gopro footage with the liberty in the car!

[Doc's Notch]

awesome pass, sorry to hear about real street. arent they giving FS the ax too? what clutch were you running with that setup

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by nick5oh

Why do you say deceleration is a big no no?

I once heard a racer speak of a certain bbc head being ported so much that the big amount of vacuum created after the stripe on decel caused the head to collapse? Not sure if he meant crankcase or manifold vacuum? Is this + accelerated wear and tear for no reason why you say it's a no no or other reasons?

Thanks for your replies Bruce and good luck with all your future endeavours. Make sure you get lots of gopro footage with the liberty in the car!

One of the biggest for me is that when you are decelerating. The oil moves away from the pick up and results in no oil pressure while asking the engine to continue to spin. Not good.

[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by Doc's Notch

awesome pass, sorry to hear about real street. arent they giving FS the ax too? what clutch were you running with that setup

P/S got the chop also, but those racers can go to NMCA M/S because they were already able to cross over. The NMRA is sorta making it clear that if there is no class sponsor. There is no class. So if F/S does not have a sponson in the future. They will be gone too.


I ran my aluminum diaphragm pressure plate with some tricks here and there. I have also used Centerforce LMS pressure plates and ACT pp's. Both are good.

[nick5oh]

Originally Posted by Bruce Hemminger

One of the biggest for me is that when you are decelerating. The oil moves away from the pick up and results in no oil pressure while asking the engine to continue to spin. Not good.

Hmmmmm......interesting......What causes the oil to move away from the pick up?

[GilroyRacing]

Originally Posted by 306greenstang

That trans looks like it shifts like butter.

What trans is it ? What's done to it ?

Car is killer Bruce. Good luck next year.

That trans is badass!


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[Bruce Hemminger]

Originally Posted by nick5oh

Hmmmmm......interesting......What causes the oil to move away from the pick up?

Lets see if I can explain this correctly. When you (accelerate) launch your car and it pins you BACK in your seat. The same thing happens to your oil in the oil pan. It gets pushed to the back of the oil pan (if there are no baffles etc. Not going to get into that). Guess where your oil pan pick up located? Yes towards the back of the pan. So when you decellerate (the opposite of accelerate) the oil gets pushed forward in the oil pan away from the pick-up and can cause oil starvation.

[nick5oh]

Originally Posted by Bruce Hemminger

Lets see if I can explain this correctly. When you (accelerate) launch your car and it pins you BACK in your seat. The same thing happens to your oil in the oil pan. It gets pushed to the back of the oil pan (if there are no baffles etc. Not going to get into that). Guess where your oil pan pick up located? Yes towards the back of the pan. So when you decellerate (the opposite of accelerate) the oil gets pushed forward in the oil pan away from the pick-up and can cause oil starvation.

This is what I was thinking you meant.....thanks for the explanation Bruce.

[MARK 302]

Cool video!!! You are always one of my favorite guys to watch go down the track! You should make the trip up to our track sometime next year! We rent the track once a year and we would definately like to have you attend! It is a great day to test and we get areally cool bunch of cars! Alot of guys you might know.

[Bruce Hemminger]

Here is another pass that same day.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VTkQi0i0cw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VTkQi0i0cw&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

[Stephen Johnson]

Originally Posted by Bruce Hemminger

Here is another pass that same day.

http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?..._order&list=UL

Do you have a clutch rod on your pedal so you don't have push the clutch all the way down to the floor. How much does your engine drop between gear changes, it doesn't sound like it drops much.

[Bruce Hemminger]

Stephen,

1200-1500 rpm drop. I have a stop at the top and bottom so I may adjust the pedal limits. Flare on the shift is about 700-1000 rpm.

[cocomojak]

Hi Bruce.Most racers wouldnt understand all that leg and footwork while staging at the tree like I saw out of you.Or the intensity level that jacks up on the 2 step.Aint nothing else like racing a stick.Great job last year.